Why do Athiests challenge Thiests?

[Iti oj]

Don't you mean, thank you M.V.?

Not according to my phone.

 

[Poeticus]

Not according to my phone.

Your phone must be infallible and a Jealous Mobile!

 

[Iti oj]

Your phone must be infallible and a Jealous Mobile!

N o just cracked and outdated

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

Heck, it escapes logic itself.

Not even a narrow escape either.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Not even a narrow escape either.

Logic never stood a chance.

 

[Mycroft]

A list of all the books wherein wisdom can be found is a futile effort; the list would be the length of an entire massive book.

I've not read any of those works (though I've read the first bits of the Kitab-i-Aqdas), but I've read plenty of wisdom.

Here's another piece of wisdom for you to read. Don't read those books.

 

[Enai de a lukal]

Someone for whom god exists.

That's not right; there are no such people, because God does not exist (and if he doesn't exist for you, he doesn't exist for me either, unfortunately). Of course, someone laboring under the delusion that he does might say such a silly thing, or else someone with a good sense of humor.

 

[Riverwolf]

Here's another piece of wisdom for you to read. Don't read those books.

All books have some degree of wisdom.

 

[Poeticus]

N o just cracked and outdated

What a wonderful analogy for You-Know-Who!

 

[Willamena]

That's not right; there are no such people, because God does not exist (and if he doesn't exist for you, he doesn't exist for me either, unfortunately). Of course, someone laboring under the delusion that he does might say such a silly thing, or else someone with a good sense of humor.

You have essentially declared that there are no theists. While that's an interesting attitude, it's not one that I share.

 

[Enai de a lukal]

You have essentially declared that there are no theists. While that's an interesting attitude, it's not one that I share.

Um, no... Theism requires people that believe God exists- not "for whom God exists" (no more than people believing in Bigfoot means that for them, Bigfoot does exist- Bigfoot's, and God's, existence is the same for everyone...).

 

[Mycroft]

Everyone is an atheist to some degree. Christians do not believe in the 12 Olympian gods, allah, Imhotep, etc. for example. Some of us just go one god further.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Also, Something else I'd like to add to my initial question.

If God is real,
And I die, I'll go to heaven because of my faith (over-simplifying but you get the point)

If God is not real,
And I die, I'll just be dead.

If God is real and an Athiest dies, They'll go to hell.
If God is not real and an Athiest dies, nothing will happen.

Explain an Athiest's logic, As to why they think it's better to have no faith.

What if you die and find out the Muslims were right? Then you're in the same boat as me (an atheist). How much time do you spend worrying about that?

Pascal's Wager stinks.

 

[nazz]

What if you die and find out the Muslims were right? Then you're in the same boat as me (an atheist). How much time do you spend worrying about that?

Pascal's Wager stinks.

Which Muslims are you referring to? Salafists? Because most Muslims believe what the Qur'an says that all monotheists will go to Paradise no matter what religion they follow.

 

[Mycroft]

Which Muslims are you referring to? Salafists? Because most Muslims believe what the Qur'an says that all monotheists will go to Paradise no matter what religion they follow.

What if you die an the Greeks and their Olympian gods were right?

Or the Egyptians and theirs?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Because most Muslims believe what the Qur'an says that all monotheists will go to Paradise no matter what religion they follow.

I suppose that your confident knowledge of what hundreds of millions of individuals actually believe is some rare species of rationally-formed belief.

 

[nazz]

What if you die an the Greeks and their Olympian gods were right?

Or the Egyptians and theirs?

What might they require of me?

 

[Enai de a lukal]

What if you die and find out the Muslims were right? Then you're in the same boat as me (an atheist). How much time do you spend worrying about that?

Pascal's Wager stinks.

Or, maybe God's looking to out-Luther Luther; maybe God wants us to withhold belief, and keeps an especially cozy spot in Hell reserved for those who suspend their rational intellect just to try to get ahead in the game...

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Which Muslims are you referring to? Salafists? Because most Muslims believe what the Qur'an says that all monotheists will go to Paradise no matter what religion they follow.

Do you think those Muslims consider trinitarian Christians to be monotheists?

 

[nazz]

Do you think those Muslims consider trinitarian Christians to be monotheists?

If they understand the doctrine correctly, yes. The Qur'an never accuses Christians of being polytheists.