Why do Athiests challenge Thiests?

[Mycroft]

But you're the one distinguising truth and fantasy, Whereas all I see is truth.

You see your truth. But the truth is a three-edged sword, my friend. Your truth, my truth, and the truth.

 

[Revoltingest]

There's a "the truth"?

 

[Thana]

Also, Something else I'd like to add to my initial question.

If God is real,
And I die, I'll go to heaven because of my faith (over-simplifying but you get the point)

If God is not real,
And I die, I'll just be dead.

If God is real and an Athiest dies, They'll go to hell.
If God is not real and an Athiest dies, nothing will happen.

Explain an Athiest's logic, As to why they think it's better to have no faith.

 

[Iti oj]

theism is bad.
because of theism you were debating about evolution being real or not.

 

[Revoltingest]

Also, Something else I'd like to add to my initial question.

If God is real,
And I die, I'll go to heaven because of my faith (over-simplifying but you get the point)

If God is not real,
And I die, I'll just be dead.

If God is real and an Athiest dies, They'll go to hell.
If God is not real and an Athiest dies, nothing will happen.

Explain an Athiest's logic, As to why they think it's better to have no faith.

There are more options.
If you worship the wrong god, you'll be punished.
If I don't worship any god, I'll not be punished.
Pascal's wager fails because he didn't look at all the possibilities.
But all this amounts to naught....no one truly believes in a god just because they're hedging a bet.
And I use no logic whatsoever in my disbelief...there's simply no evidence for gods, sprites, fairies, wraiths, angels, devils, demons, etc.

 

[Thana]

theism is bad.
because of theism you were debating about evolution being real or not.

No...
Creation and Evoultion have nothing to do with each other,
Atleast, to me.
Which I made clear in the other thread.

 

[Riverwolf]

Also, Something else I'd like to add to my initial question.

If God is real,
And I die, I'll go to heaven because of my faith (over-simplifying but you get the point)

If God is not real,
And I die, I'll just be dead.

If God is real and an Athiest dies, They'll go to hell.
If God is not real and an Athiest dies, nothing will happen.

Explain an Athiest's logic, As to why they think it's better to have no faith.

No, you'll go to hell because you haven't accepted no God but God and Mohammad as his prophet.

That's the logic: we're all going to hell by some God's law.

I'm just dandy, because in my religion I'm going to Hel anyway, regardless of how I act here, as is everybody else. ^_^

 

[Iti oj]

Also, Something else I'd like to add to my initial question.

If God is real,
And I die, I'll go to heaven because of my faith (over-simplifying but you get the point)

If God is not real,
And I die, I'll just be dead.

If God is real and an Athiest dies, They'll go to hell.
If God is not real and an Athiest dies, nothing will happen.

Explain an Athiest's logic, As to why they think it's better to have no faith.

and if a different god is real you worshipped a false god. I worshiped no one. Now who is ******. Honestly though either god is good and it does not matter or god is vile and not worthy of my worship anyways. Further more you can not fake belief. Don't get me wrong as a practicing chaos magician I know all about suspending disbelief but that's not the same as believing.

 

[hexler]

I read all these replies and I wonder. So many "good advices" ! These people should write books, then they need not to bother us. Believe me, you wise people: True wisdom is not as complicated as you want us to see it.

 

[Riverwolf]

theism is bad.
because of theism you were debating about evolution being real or not.

And yet I, as a theist, was defending evolution.

So, no, it wasn't because of theism at all, as she made perfectly clear over and over.

 

[Riverwolf]

I read all these replies and I wonder. So many "good advices" ! These people should write books, then they need not to bother us. Believe me, you wise people: True wisdom is not as complicated as you want us to see it.

Hehehehe.... why settle with a passive medium for expressing these things? Why not something more... interactive?

 

[Iti oj]

No...
Creation and Evoultion have nothing to do with each other,
Atleast, to me.
Which I made clear in the other thread.

The sources you used suggest other wise. In matter of fact the only reason their is any debate about the topic is because if religion. You can deny it all you want, but in regards to answering your question your opinion does not matter.

 

[Iti oj]

And yet I, as a theist, was defending evolution.

So, no, it wasn't because of theism at all, as she made perfectly clear over and over.

soo creationism/id has nothing to do with theism?

 

[Thana]

The sources you used suggest other wise. In matter of fact the only reason their is any debate about the topic is because if religion. You can deny it all you want, but in regards to answering your question your opinion does not matter.

If my opinion does not matter, Then your opinion does not matter.
Therefore your opinion about my opinion does not matter

 

[Iti oj]

im gonna pm you river and try out a point

 

[Iti oj]

If my opinion does not matter, Then your opinion does not matter.
Therefore your opinion about my opinion does not matter

Only in regards to answering your question. It does not matter if you think creationism has anything to do with theism only that I or others do.

also you skipped my other point

 

[psychoslice]

I feel that atheist or free thinking people keep the balance, just imagine if the world was all religious, I would hate to see what would happen, yes balance is the key.

 

[Riverwolf]

soo creationism/id has nothing to do with theism?

They're not inseparable.

 

[hexler]

Hehehehe.... why settle with a passive medium for expressing these things? Why not something more... interactive?

The "wisdom" exposed here is the wisdom of priests, who always led the people into wilderness.

 

[Riverwolf]

The "wisdom" exposed here is the wisdom of priests, who always led the people into wilderness.

Uh, no. The wilderness is not the domain of priests. The Priest's domain is sacred houses.

The wilderness is the domain of Druids and Shamans, and their wisdom is all but lost. Only the Elves maintain that wisdom, along with Odin, who learned it from them.