Christ does not claim to be God. But He did say He was a Prophet and the Qur’an agrees with that.Their doctrines are wrong. Islam denies the Godhood of Jesus, for example. If Muhammad is wrong then anyone who confirms him is also wrong.
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Christ does not claim to be God. But He did say He was a Prophet and the Qur’an agrees with that.Their doctrines are wrong. Islam denies the Godhood of Jesus, for example. If Muhammad is wrong then anyone who confirms him is also wrong.
Yes, he does claim to be God. I'm not getting into this here though. But do you see the problem? Why would you take what the Quran says 600 years after the foundation of Christianity, which by then had the Creeds and solidified doctrines on these issues. Of course they're not going to accept Muhammad when he denies Jesus' Godhood.Christ does not claim to be God. But He did say He was a Prophet and the Qur’an agrees with that.
Just like Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism?They are valid for the people who follow them.
This has nothing to do with the OP or the rest of the discussion.It’s very relevant because prejudice is harmful to society. It has caused wars.
..and how does that alter the "spiritual truths"?Their doctrines are wrong. Islam denies the Godhood of Jesus, for example..
Where?But He [Jesus] did say He was a Prophet...
Because religions have doctrines and theology matters. We can't just rally around some vague moral values while disagreeing on the fundamentals of what God is and what He wants, what proper worship should look like, and so on...and how does that alter the "spiritual truths"?
That is only a doctrine .. it does not [ should not ] change ones attitudes towards
moral values.
Not at all. It’s about prejudice. It serves no useful purpose.How is this relevant to the topic? Is this thread yet another failed attempt to unite all religions as one?
Not just Christians.From Muhammad to Krishna to Buddha and Baha’u’llah, it has been a norm amongst Christians of many denominations to accuse religionists of other religions of believing in satan himself and that all of these Teachers are ‘false Prophets’. Many times I have heard this said to me and others. Yet nowhere in the Bible does it categorically state by name that any of These Teachers are false. It is an interpretation by priests and clergy. All of Them taught love just as Christ did.
Respect for other religions can often be just acknowledging those other religions' right to believe and practice. It doesn't necessarily mean agreeing with their factual claims.To be fair, I know of excellent Christians and priests who respect other religions and Prophets and they, I believe, are true Christians who practice love and tolerance towards all.
I'm not a Christian, but in general, I see "prophet" and "messenger" claims as foolish across the board.As a Christian, what do you believe about Muhammad or Buddha or Krishna and Baha’u’llah? Do you believe the different religions should mix with one another or shun each other? I once invited some Christians who knocked on my door to say some prayers together for humanity but they told me that their elders forbid them to do that because they could get ‘spiritually infected’!
If they think you're mistaken, and that great harm will befall you if you stay mistaken, why would "love" imply leaving to to that harm?If Christ taught to love even ones enemy then this attitude towards other religions doesn’t sound right. What do you think?
Because religions have doctrines and theology matters. We can't just rally around some vague moral values while disagreeing on the fundamentals of what God is and what He wants, what proper worship should look like, and so on.
Some good points.Not just Christians.
It's pretty much the norm that people see prophet claims in general as weak at best and bogus at worst. It's just that religious people often get it drilled into their heads from a young age that their own religion's prophets are special and not subject to normal critical examination.
Respect for other religions can often be just acknowledging those other religions' right to believe and practice. It doesn't necessarily mean agreeing with their factual claims.
I'm not a Christian, but in general, I see "prophet" and "messenger" claims as foolish across the board.
That being said, I do agree that it's somewhat hypocritical for Christians to accept their own "prophets" as real but reject yours.
I think that some of this comes down to modernity: with a new prophet-claimant like Baha’u’llah (or Joseph Smith), you don't have the benefit of the "fog of time" to excuse why the support for the prophet's claims are so weak.
If they think you're mistaken, and that great harm will befall you if you stay mistaken, why would "love" imply leaving to to that harm?
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not Abrahamic.Well, my God as She disagrees with Him.
That is where we end. You have in the end your proof and I do it differently.
So you think that all the major faiths - including your own - accept that Jesus is God? They all accept that there are no prophets after Muhammad?From my reading of each of the scriptures of all the major faiths, their spiritual truths are all valid. I don’t find any contradictions between the spiritual teachings. They all teach wisdom, love, compassion and virtues.
No I did not say Jesus was God. I said He denied being God. We believe Jesus was a Manifestation of God - a reflection of God but not God AlmightySo you think that all the major faiths - including your own - accept that Jesus is God? They all accept that there are no prophets after Muhammad?
Alright. I'll give you that one. I didn't remember that verse.
And then you wonder why Christians deny the claims of Bahaism?No I did not say Jesus was God. I said He denied being God. We believe Jesus was a Manifestation of God - a reflection of God but not God Almighty
You said that there are no contradictions between the spiritual teachings of the major faiths.No I did not say Jesus was God.
So you think the Christians are wrong.I said He denied being God. We believe Jesus was a Manifestation of God - a reflection of God but not God Almighty
My understanding of Christ’s divinity comes from His own Words in the Bible not the Quran.Yes, he does claim to be God. I'm not getting into this here though. But do you see the problem? Why would you take what the Quran says 600 years after the foundation of Christianity, which by then had the Creeds and solidified doctrines on these issues. Of course they're not going to accept Muhammad when he denies Jesus' Godhood.