Why Do Christians Feel The Need To Bother People?

[1213]

The difference is, Christians willfully and purposefully go into gatherings that are not for them, and invade spaces that are not for them. The LGBT community wants to be accepted in society. We don't go door to door. We don't disrupt church services (though there have been isolated incidents). We don't stand outside hospitals and call women the w word because she's making a decision about her body....

I think this is going door to door basically. And there are many similar cases and the whole phenomena is pushed almost everywhere, even in some churches.

 

[Brian2]

OK, the Gospel doesn't;t say that Christians should force society to follow (some versions of) Christian morality, but we see evangelical Christians doing this. So you think they are wrong?

In some things they want as law probably yes. It is just the result of a democracy and being in the majority and thinking that Christian morality is good for society as a whole.
There are always people who want to get into political power and push for what they see as the best thing.
Christians in the US (and no doubt in Australia where I live) are still catching up with the fact that it is a post Christian era and political power is not something that is now guaranteed for Christians in these countries and elsewhere in the West and that people who are not Christians have a right to live life as they see fit.
Nevertheless there will probably always be issues that cause conflict even if Christians realise these things.

And conservative Christians made it happen, along with our EC voting system.

If you say so.

So you were incorrect in saying there was atheist ideas being imposed in society. But we do see far right Christian ideas being imposed, and that is a problem.

Why was I incorrect.
Far right ideas Christian are being imposed are no doubt being imposed as a backlash for what they see as a creep of leftist (atheist) ideas. (Getting things back to how they should be. Making America great again. And Trump seemed savvy enough to realise what the Republican membership is and gave them what they wanted.

I'm opposed to religious people using politics to impose their beliefs onto society as a whole. Freedom allows Christians to follow their own moral options, but when these unpopular ideas are imposed as federal policy, that crosses a line.

As I said it is democracy and whatever the beliefs of the majority (ruling party) are, that is what will be made into law.
Fight against it, sure, hate it, sure, but in the end, as with all of us, we have to just accept it if we can't do anything against it.

 

[Ashoka]

I think this is going door to door basically. And there are many similar cases and the whole phenomena is pushed almost everywhere, even in some churches.

...That's a parade. Do parades in general harass you? Or do they just annoy you? There's a difference.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Whether it's at an LGBT event, a Pagan festival, or something as innocuous as a comic-con....street preachers abound. Christians harass women and other people who can have babies at clinics all the time.

This is just me asking you. Why do you guys feel the need to bother us so much? Can't you just leave us alone? Whatever happened to free will? Most of us grew up Christian, we know the Bible, we know about the "risks" we are taking. We non-Christians just want to live. Yes, technically in America it's protected under free speech. But can't you take a hint? We don't care. We want to live our lives.

Leave us alone.

(and yes, I know #notallchristians but it's enough of y'all for it to be a problem. Maybe you should address the issue at hand.)

There are two kinds of preaching:

1) In a church building to strengthen believers

2) In public to encourage/warn unbelievers

We imitate Jesus Christ who preached both in synagogues and in public.

 

[Dao Hao Now]

Not really... and it also depends on what one defines as anti-Christian.

Certainly the redefining of marriage can be considered as anti-Christian. The current attempt to change the rules of Title-IX is anti-Christian and anti-parent. One could develop a list though you might not see it as such.

Are you of the opinion that anything that isn’t actively promoting whatever you view to be “Christian values” is automatically and actively
anti-Christian?

 

[F1fan]

There are two kinds of preaching:

1) In a church building to strengthen believers

2) In public to encourage/warn unbelievers

We imitate Jesus Christ who preached both in synagogues and in public.

If only Christians would imitate Jesus' moral views for all humanity.

One reason so many are leaving Christianity is because too many Christians don't act in a way that Jesus taught. We hear Chris taught.

 

[Shaul]

You are painting with a very broad brush. Most Christians don’t do the things you have described. I am confident you would not want to be held to account for everything done in the name of Wicca. So you could try the following. Return kindness to those Christians who are being rude or boorish. Be the better person. It will either help them or shame them. There is no right to not be bothered in a free society. You can’t change others. But you can choose how you react. Give a soft answer, then turn away. Let it go. Yes, this is not always easy. As a Jew I too have suffered my share of pushy Christians myself. So I know it can be done.

 

[Brian2]

Not really... and it also depends on what one defines as anti-Christian.

Certainly the redefining of marriage can be considered as anti-Christian. The current attempt to change the rules of Title-IX is anti-Christian and anti-parent. One could develop a list though you might not see it as such.

It certainly shows the truth of Psalm 2 but also the natural person cannot live as a Christian is asked to live and I have trouble with Christians enshrining Christian morals in law when they do take away from the freedoms of people.
Any little thing can be the start of a slippery slope for sure, but Christians aren't really here to be the Taliban on what people should and should not do.
Then of course it gets more complicated than that when we should be fighting for justice for people and in that respect, in those issues, should be the Taliban on what people should and shouldn't do.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Whether it's at an LGBT event, a Pagan festival, or something as innocuous as a comic-con....street preachers abound. Christians harass women and other people who can have babies at clinics all the time.

This is just me asking you. Why do you guys feel the need to bother us so much? Can't you just leave us alone? Whatever happened to free will? Most of us grew up Christian, we know the Bible, we know about the "risks" we are taking. We non-Christians just want to live. Yes, technically in America it's protected under free speech. But can't you take a hint? We don't care. We want to live our lives.

Leave us alone.

(and yes, I know #notallchristians but it's enough of y'all for it to be a problem. Maybe you should address the issue at hand.)

I understand the feeling. As a Jew, I wish Christians would just leave me alone.

And in all honesty, not all Christians are pests. Not even most of them. But some certainly are.

But there lies a problem in their scriptures, where Jesus tells them to go to all the world and preach the gospel. Thus, in general, they feel obligated. It's particularly worse for Jews because Paul says to take it to the JEWS FIRST.

They really are quite blind to the fact that they are being rude and obnoxious. Somehow in their heads they use the flawed reasoning that "If its true it can't be rude."

 

[Kenny]

Are you of the opinion that anything that isn’t actively promoting whatever you view to be “Christian values” is automatically and actively
anti-Christian?

What is "anti-Christian"?

 

[Kenny]

It certainly shows the truth of Psalm 2 but also the natural person cannot live as a Christian is asked to live and I have trouble with Christians enshrining Christian morals in law when they do take away from the freedoms of people.
Any little thing can be the start of a slippery slope for sure, but Christians aren't really here to be the Taliban on what people should and should not do.
Then of course it gets more complicated than that when we should be fighting for justice for people and in that respect, in those issues, should be the Taliban on what people should and shouldn't do.

That is a tight-rope for sure.

the other side of the coin is that freedom can be a slippery slope. "Do whatever I want without restraint" is a freedom of free-will but we do put boundaries to freedom.

 

[Subduction Zone]

...That's a parade. Do parades in general harass you? Or do they just annoy you? There's a difference.

"I saw it on the news and was very offended that people were celebrating something that my book of myths says is wrong. How dare other people enjoy doing something that I am prohibited from enjoying?"

 

[Ashoka]

"I saw it on the news and was very offended that people were celebrating something that my book of myths says is wrong. How dare other people enjoy doing something that I am prohibited from enjoying?"

"I am so bitter that I am going to compare an innocent parade aimed at helping people take pride in themselves, and compare it to people being screamed at by street preachers who call them whores and abominations."

 

[Subduction Zone]

"I am so bitter that I am going to compare an innocent parade aimed at helping people take pride in themselves, and compare it to people being screamed at by street preachers who call them whores and abominations."

That's it. You too are only losing a few billion brain cells away from being another MAGA.

 

[1213]

...That's a parade. Do parades in general harass you? Or do they just annoy you? There's a difference.

For me such parades are more harassment than some individual preaching something. It is easier to ignore single person than horde of people.

 

[Dao Hao Now]

What is "anti-Christian"?

Well, I was using your words:

What should be surprising is that in the US (a predominantly Christian nation) that there are so many anti Christian laws (or so I hear).

My asking:

Are you of the opinion that anything that isn’t actively promoting whatever you view to be “Christian values” is automatically and actively
anti-Christian?

was an attempt to decipher YOUR meaning.
So allow me to try my question again:

When you say “what should be surprising is that there are so many anti Christian laws” that you say “you hear” of:
Do you mean any law that isn’t actively promoting whatever YOU view to be “Christian values” to be anti Christian?

If not, what is it that you mean when you say
“anti Christian law”?

 

[Brian2]

When you say “what should be surprising is that there are so many anti Christian laws” that you say “you hear” of:
Do you mean any law that isn’t actively promoting whatever YOU view to be “Christian values” to be anti Christian?

If not, what is it that you mean when you say
“anti Christian law”?

In the West I suppose there are probably not laws which try to openly destroy the Christian religion.
What I meant by anti Christian laws is laws which promote morality which is opposed to Christian morality.
This is what should be surprising in a country which is supposed to be a predominantly Christian country.
Since it is presumably largely Christians (in a predominantly Christian country) who are at least partially responsible for these law changes I wonder if that means that many Christians are changing their view about forcing Christian morality onto people who are not Christians.

 

[Sand Dancer]

...That's a parade. Do parades in general harass you? Or do they just annoy you? There's a difference.

Generally, you go to the parade. The parade doesn't come to you. They are usually in a business district, not residential.

 

[Sand Dancer]

There are two kinds of preaching:

1) In a church building to strengthen believers

2) In public to encourage/warn unbelievers

We imitate Jesus Christ who preached both in synagogues and in public.

Jesus generally went out and away from people and the people came to him.

 

[Alien826]

For me such parades are more harassment than some individual preaching something. It is easier to ignore single person than horde of people.

That's silly, sorry. A parade is by it's nature localized. You can avoid it very easily by being somewhere else, and these things are publicized in advance. If it's on TV then change the channel. It's very different from someone being (literally) in your face, and refusing to shut up after a polite refusal.