That's the least of the bad things I've been called in my life.
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Why do disbelieves hate the word disbelievers
- Thread starter Servant_of_the_One1
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That's the least of the bad things I've been called in my life.
Deathbydefault
Apistevist Asexual Atheist
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
... what on earth are you talking about? Islam is all about believing that there is one god, that it speaks only through prophets; that Muhammad was the last one and the Quran was the message Allah sent - and Muslims have been trying to convince everyone else of the truthfulness of these claims since Islam was started by Muhammad. Of course it's our business if your claims are true or not because you've made it our business with your constant snide remarks about how saying certain things will hurt us in the afterlife or doing certain things is blasphemy against your religious code of conduct even if the person doing it is non-Muslim. You don't get to say "My religion is true and perfect, yours is false and evil" then hit out with "It's none of your business if it's true or not" when people object. That's not how this works.
I do recognize the existence of Allah. I also recognize the existence of Gandalf and James Bond and Ulysses and Joan of Arc and Christ and Muhammad and God.
I am a believer. I just don't believe in the same fiction you do in the same way.
Tom
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Guess I'm only half a kafir then. I believe it's quite possible that Allah exists; I just refuse to have anything to do with him because of how much a monster he is portrayed to be by devout Muslims.
Satyamavejayanti
Well-Known Member
"Servant_of_the_One1",
Namaste,
I don't hate the word disbeliever or unbeliever, nor do i hate being called one.
There is no doctrinal/non doctrinal concept similar to non-believer or Kafir in Hinduism, Hindus generally don't care if you believe or not, but we do care if you are respectful or disrespectful. Respect is paramount and is more important then belief in Hinduism.
Dhanyavad
Namaste,
I don't hate the word disbeliever or unbeliever, nor do i hate being called one.
There is no doctrinal/non doctrinal concept similar to non-believer or Kafir in Hinduism, Hindus generally don't care if you believe or not, but we do care if you are respectful or disrespectful. Respect is paramount and is more important then belief in Hinduism.
Dhanyavad
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Urban Omnist
New Member
Interesting discussion. I have found myself disliking being called a disbeliever in the past because I don't consider myself to be one. What has been known to bother me is people who consider you to be a disbeliever simply for not believing exactly they way they do. In that respect, I can imagine some people taking offense.
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
'Rational' also works here.
Who said we hate the term "disbeliever"?
I am a.....
- Disbeliever
- Nonbeliever
- Unbeliever
- Zilchbeliever
- Heathen
- Atheist
- Skeptic
- Infidel
- Apostate
- Reprobate
- Revoltifarian
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I would suggest it depends more on the context than the term. Personally, I could care less. But some atheists get a little peeved when told repeatedly that they're evil, that they're going to burn, or that they have made baby Jesus cry. So it might depend whether it's a statement of fact 'ie. You disbelieve in an omniscient God, right?' or a statement of judgement.
Being proud of it would be more confusing to me than being upset, to be honest. I'm neither, but unless I categorise all believers as irrational, and then also make the logically flawed leap that all non-believers are therefore rational, what is it I would be proud about?
Not true. I've met irrational atheists before. I'm sure you have too.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I don't believe and I love the word disbeliever.
It's way better than "the brights".
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Mmmm, i feel a little ignorant, what is the brights ?.
The word "infidel" which kafir can be translated as is an insult to many English speakers. "infidel" can be defined as "(literally "unfaithful") is a pejorative term used in certain religions for those who do not believe the central tenets of one's own religion, are members of another religion, or are not religious."
Almost anything is better than "Brights". That was really awful.
Tom