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Why do homosexuals and transgenders force religious people to accept them?

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
With all due respect, of course I do. Just as you see mine. That doesn't change because you don't like what I conclude from what you choose to show.
You see about 1/100 of me on this forum. If you choose to draw conclusions from that, there is really nothing else to say about it.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
You see about 1/100 of me on this forum. If you choose to draw conclusions from that, there is really nothing else to say about it.
I specifically said that I see your words and actions HERE. If you choose to ignore the specifics, that's not my responsibility, either.

As for conclusions, there's no choice to it. Humans draw conclusions from the information at hand. It's what we DO, and there's no escaping it.

We can choose to extend benefit of the doubt, but you're really not leaving a whole lot of doubt to benefit from.

If you don't like the natural consequences of your own damned choices, choose differently.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
It feels like compulsion. Specialy in the West if you dont accept homosexuality you are seen as outcast, as cave person.

Think about who really views people with your beliefs about sin that way? Are they really people that believe in the principles and ethics that God teaches or are they people that have rebelled against his standards in the first place? If it's the latter are you really that concerned about how they view you? Try to guess how much sleep I lose over how some hater of the Christian God views me.
 
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Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Bisexual women are hot. Especially ones with big booties
Too bad. Crap like this repels the real ones, more often than not.

Fetishization may seem a kinder, gentler bigotry on the surface, but that tends to change FAST when we reject the dudebros who see us as toys instead of people. Even when it doesn't turn into a personally dangerous situation, the idea that our sexuality is for your titillation isn't exactly endearing.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Too bad. Crap like this repels the real ones, more often than not.

Fetishization may seem a kinder, gentler bigotry on the surface, but that tends to change FAST when we reject the dudebros who see us as toys instead of people. Even when it doesn't turn into a personally dangerous situation, the idea that our sexuality is for your titillation isn't exactly endearing.

Fair point... but speaking as a man, for better or worse we usually objectify without discrimination.

Not an excuse, I realize. Still, the truth to the best of my knowledge.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Fair point... but speaking as a man, for better or worse we usually objectify without discrimination.

Not an excuse, I realize. Still, the truth to the best of my knowledge.
Well, there's also a difference between fetishization and objectification, as well as objectification and appreciation or attraction.

The fetishists are the ones who start asking about threesomes on the first date, and lose all interest as soon as you point out that you actually expect the men you date to have some interest in you. Beyond your presumed function as a get in free pass to other women.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Too bad. Crap like this repels the real ones, more often than not.

Fetishization may seem a kinder, gentler bigotry on the surface, but that tends to change FAST when we reject the dudebros who see us as toys instead of people. Even when it doesn't turn into a personally dangerous situation, the idea that our sexuality is for your titillation isn't exactly endearing.

The good news is that I'm not seriously trying to land me an authentic bisexual girlfriend. Sure there's something titillating about girl on girl action. I might even have fantasized about being sandwiched in between a couple of ladies but that's where those fantasies end. If a couple of bisexual women tried to pick me up I would tell them no
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
The good news is that I'm not seriously trying to land me an authentic bisexual girlfriend. Sure there's something titillating about girl on girl action. I might even have fantasized about being sandwiched in between a couple of ladies but that's where those fantasies end. If a couple of bisexual women tried to pick me up I would tell them no
Jesus.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Let me guess, your sexual fantasies consist of wining and dining the people you want to sleep with, having deep, long chats about their innermost thoughts
I have no intention of discussing any part of my sex life with you, but you can stop demonstrating my point any time now.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The good news is that I'm not seriously trying to land me an authentic bisexual girlfriend. Sure there's something titillating about girl on girl action. I might even have fantasized about being sandwiched in between a couple of ladies but that's where those fantasies end. If a couple of bisexual women tried to pick me up I would tell them no

Uh, that is not good news. It is an admission that despite having exciting fantasies with a certain scenario, you refuse to consider the very people that you imagine there as actual human beings that might perhaps be considered for a serious relationship.

That may well make you feel safe from the perceived dangers of being at peace with your own fantasies, but only at the cost of perhaps pointless self-repression. Even worse is that you see that as justification for not taking actual people seriously.

Sorry, but that is hardly good news. It is just a confused, conflicted admission of fear, expressed in a callous way.

TLDR: People are not cattle for sexual fantasies, and you would do well to learn that and accept the inconvenience and adjust accordingly. There are lots of joy to be had in actually earning the attention of people that excite you by paying them comparable attention and consideration. You should not deny yourself that opportunity.

Nor should you delude yourself about how respectful your current attitude is.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Uh, that is not good news. It is an admission that despite having exciting fantasies with a certain scenario, you refuse to consider the very people that you imagine there as actual human beings that might perhaps be considered for a serious relationship.

That may well make you feel safe from the perceived dangers of being at peace with your own fantasies, but only at the cost of perhaps pointless self-repression. Even worse is that you see that as justification for not taking actual people seriously.

Sorry, but that is hardly good news. It is just a confused, conflicted admission of fear, expressed in a callous way.

TLDR: People are not cattle for sexual fantasies, and you would do well to learn that and accept the inconvenience and adjust accordingly. There are lots of joy to be had in actually earning the attention of people that excite you by paying them comparable attention and consideration. You should not deny yourself that opportunity.

Nor should you delude yourself about how respectful your current attitude is.
Indeed.

Of course, when the bi chick points this out, it's seen as an opportunity to make unwelcome inquiries about her sexual expression to solicit masturbation fuel, and when that gets shot down, too, he gets to declare her sexually unworthy of him. After all, to the fetishist, we exist only to be consumed and discarded.

Most sexual adults will objectify strangers, but naturally move past that with acquaintance. People who fetishize other orientations or ethnicities don't do that. And then they take it even further by thinking their bigotry is somehow a good thing, and we should fall to our knees in gratitude.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Uh, that is not good news. It is an admission that despite having exciting fantasies with a certain scenario, you refuse to consider the very people that you imagine there as actual human beings that might perhaps be considered for a serious relationship.

That may well make you feel safe from the perceived dangers of being at peace with your own fantasies, but only at the cost of perhaps pointless self-repression. Even worse is that you see that as justification for not taking actual people seriously.

Sorry, but that is hardly good news. It is just a confused, conflicted admission of fear, expressed in a callous way.

TLDR: People are not cattle for sexual fantasies, and you would do well to learn that and accept the inconvenience and adjust accordingly. There are lots of joy to be had in actually earning the attention of people that excite you by paying them comparable attention and consideration. You should not deny yourself that opportunity.

Nor should you delude yourself about how respectful your current attitude is.

Do you really think I'm interested in living out all my sexual fantasies no matter how perverse? Those are pagan ways, not Christian. Ultimately I've already lived out many of my sexual fantasies and found them pretty unsatisfying in the long run. I'm not deluded enough to think that chasing down my bisexual fantasies is going to be the thing that fills me with what I really need or want.
 
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