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Why do homosexuals and transgenders force religious people to accept them?

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I am tired of people telling me how I should post. It's the truth I posted. Why would I try to change the mind of someone? People hate each other all over the world. People are being beheaded, maimed, shot, etc. My daughter right now is in the hospital because she couldn't take the bullying anymore at her school.
We should be preaching about ALL INTOLERANCE and not picking and choosing which is worst.

I don't think intolerance that causes the persecution to the point of killing members of a minority is equal to, say, persecution that leads to members of any given group being excluded from joining a football team or something. There is quite a difference, and I think it's clear which kind of intolerance is worse.

Regarding your daughter, I'm really sorry to hear that; I'm going to send you a PM right now because that concerns me, and I don't want to post about it here and take the thread off topic.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Oh dear natural is natural
You think being a gay or a lesbian or whatever of that stuff is natural ?
That is a disaster .
How did your father and Mather do to give your birth ? Were they gay and lesbian? Sorry for my language but the reality prevail
So please my friend don't mix the right and wrong and rationalize that dirty ( I would say ) acts
"Natural is natural". Yep, that's about the long and short of it. And since homosexuality is natural, it is natural. Hmm, whodathunkit?

Numerous species, our included, have had homosexual individuals within their numbers for as long as the species have existed and the populations still seem to exist. In fact, our population is always, and unfortunately, climbing. The existence of homosexuals hasn't slowed nor stopped that climb, would that it could, would help matters. Perhaps if more of our population were homosexual, were not about to reproduce by accident and too frequently, then just perhaps our planet's resources wouldn't be spreading thin.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
I am tired of people telling me how I should post. It's the truth I posted. Why would I try to change the mind of someone? People hate each other all over the world. People are being beheaded, maimed, shot, etc. My daughter right now is in the hospital because she couldn't take the bullying anymore at her school.
We should be preaching about ALL INTOLERANCE and not picking and choosing which is worst.

Personal note: much love to you and your kiddo.

General note: Intersectionality can help explain the varying degrees of oppression in society.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
As muslim i should have the freedom to denounce homosexuality and believe that it is something evil.
Iam not calling for the death of homos, lesbians and transgenders.
With all due respect, people are people. This isn't about totally accepting something a person does, but more of rejecting the entire person. Gays are people, just like the rest of us. They just want the same rights as everyone else, the same privileges as everyone else. That's the same as everyone else.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Oh dear natural is natural
You think being a gay or a lesbian or whatever of that stuff is natural ?
Yes. If nature created it and it's everywhere in nature, it's natural. No doubt.

How did your father and Mather do to give your birth ? Were they gay and lesbian? Sorry for my language but the reality prevail
No. They were hetero and I am hetero.

So please my friend don't mix the right and wrong and rationalize that dirty ( I would say ) acts
All sex is dirty but it's still natural. If it doesn't hurt anybody there is no wrong.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
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Are you aware of the invention known as a "turkey baster"? No, no, not the country. It's alright. Put your helmet back on.

And Dixie Cups. Don't forget the Dixie Cups (gods, I can't believe I said that :D).
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
As opposed to a poser lesbian? :confused:

He may mean someone who "thinks" she is a lesbian, as opposed to, I don't know, someone who is actually inimical to men or to the idea of having children.

Sexuality, as you well know, runs along a spectrum - more properly, a few different spectrums, including at least those of sexual identity and sexual attraction.

To the best of my understanding, LGBT matters are so outside the "proper" subjects for some people that they are troubled even by the open admission that it is a real matter. Even today there are those who learned and teach that homosexuality is an attitude problem akin to, say, laziness or bad table manners, which self-respecting people will of course decide to overcome given a proper chance.

That, of course, is utter fantasy with no correspondence to reality. But for so many people it is also all that they feel allowed to believe about the matter that it is sad.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
He may mean someone who "thinks" she is a lesbian, as opposed to, I don't know, someone who is actually inimical to men or to the idea of having children.

Sexuality, as you well know, runs along a spectrum - more properly, a few different spectrums, including at least those of sexual identity and sexual attraction.

To the best of my understanding, LGBT matters are so outside the "proper" subjects for some people that they are troubled even by the open admission that it is a real matter. Even today there are those who learned and teach that homosexuality is an attitude problem akin to, say, laziness or bad table manners, which self-respecting people will of course decide to overcome given a proper chance.

That, of course, is utter fantasy with no correspondence to reality. But for so many people it is also all that they feel allowed to believe about the matter that it is sad.
Indeed. It is not a matter of whether you are gay, it's how gay/straight you are. And no one exists on the farthest ends of the spectrum because I'm pretty sure it's a circle rather than a horizon.
 

Goblin

Sorcerer
why wouldnt gays try to make you accept them.
on that note why do Abrahamics try to force people to accept them?
why dont we just burn christians at the stake?
lol but that right there is why gays force religious people to accept them, because gay people have been murdered for hundreds of years by religious folk.

homophobia can not be acceptable just like antisemitism cant be acceptable. because if it is genocide will likely occur again & again..

Never again. no fagbashing, no slavery, no gas-chambers.

everyone has an opinion, but mine is that bigots of any flavor disgust me.
bigots just suck up air.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I mean a real lesbian who never let a man touch her
Enjoy your time

It might not be obvious, but many homosexual people have children. It is often a result of trying to escape the problems of being gay by trying to act "normal". If there is a "gay gene", it is doing just fine in the population.

My partner had 4 children and now has a growing flock of grandkids.

Tom
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
I don't disagree with any of the above, but I could quote tons of religious texts from more than one Islamic sect that support my earlier statement. Homophobia exists in different cultures, sure, but I have no doubt that certain strains of religious belief encourage and fuel it a lot more than others, and I don't think we can or should overlook the effect those strains of religion belief have on shaping the cultures they permeate.
Of course. Scripture is by nature, arational, intended to assist in contemplation of an arational nature. In this modern world, which prizes strictly linear thought and simple, literal fact above all, Scripture is uniquely vulnerable to exploitation. Abrahamic Scripture especially, with its monotheistic authority, can be made to support anything the reader wants it to support.
 
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