Why do homosexuals and transgenders force religious people to accept them?

[Draka]

@Servant_of_the_One , since you believe that one cannot be a homosexual and a Muslim I have to ask, why, if Islam is the truth, would your god make people in the world that could not ever be Muslim by sheer virtue of the way they were born? There are all kinds of homosexuals living in Muslim countries, raised in Muslim families, trying to get by. Your god won't let them be Muslim because he made them gay. He made these "evil" and "wrong" people. Why would he do that? It's not a choice. It is an orientation one is born with just like any other, just like heterosexuals, so why create people specifically to condemn and could never be Muslim? Why create people condemned? For sheer ****s and giggles?

 

[gsa]

With attack i mean what happened to the jews in world war 2. In such cases self defence is permitted. But for now we muslims are to respect the laws of the host countries because they welcome in non-christians/atheists into their countries. There is saying in hadith: He who does not thank people, does not thank Allah. Sadly some muslims dont believe that, they take matters into their hands by harrassing homosexuals and jews. Most muslims condemn that.

So anyways this thread is about the right of muslims, christians and jews to believe that homosexuality is a sin.

Can I ask you, since homosexuals in some Muslim countries are treated like criminals and hunted down and murdered by the state, do you oppose that? For example, do you oppose Iranian, Egyptian and Saudi harassment of homosexuals? Do you believe that Islamic societies should allow homosexuals to exist? Including, of course, the right to private sexual expression?

If you do not agree, then I fail to see how you can object, in principle, to intolerance of Islam in non-Muslim societies.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

I forget you guys. Dont take it personal ok?

Most people do. No offense taken.

So, care to answer the question then?

 

[Storm]

I forget you guys. Dont take it personal ok?

No. Not ok.

I dont force you, but i tell you what you are doing is wrong. You can tell me what i believe is wrong(from your perspective). At the end of the day we shake hands and go home.

No.

Look, you have the right to be a disgusting, vile bigot to your heart's content, and spew whatever vitriol about me and mine you want. But we will not be friends at the end of the day, and you have no right at all to think we will.

 

[averageJOE]

So anyways this thread is about the right of muslims, christians and jews to believe that homosexuality is a sin.

Again, is there a law in place that is denying muslims of their religious freedom?

 

[Valjean]

Almighty God told in the Bible and Qur'an that homosexuality/Lesbianism is sin. A true believer obeys Allah/God and stays away from the sin.

If God condemns homosexuals, why did He create so many of them?

 

[Nietzsche]

If God condemns homosexuals, why did He create so many of them?

Just can't seem to help himself, it appears.

 

[Uberpod]

If God condemns homosexuals, why did He create so many of them?

Fashion and Interior Design I think it was.

 

[muhammad ariki]

People like gays lesbians and transgenders should be separated from natural or straight people otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally

 

[MysticSang'ha]

People like gays lesbians and transgenders should be separated from natural or straight people otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally

We're not built for baby-making, in spite of what any deity or evolutionary biologist might think. Behold the phenomenon of a sexually active post-menopausal woman!

And....bisexuals? How about us?

(notice a pattern here folks)

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

People like gays lesbians and transgenders should be separated from natural or straight people otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally

Psst: if all the gay people could steal away all the "straight" people so that nobody gets married to the opposite sex, all those "straight" people weren't straight at all.

All your plan would do is limit the options for the bisexuals. Judging by the effect you think your plan would have, it seems you think that almost everyone is bisexual (tip of the hat to Mystic)... and VERY susceptible to peer pressure.

 

[Jainarayan]

People like gays lesbians and transgenders should be separated from natural or straight people...

I'm all natural. I don't have any artificial preservatives, sweeteners or high fructose corn syrup.

 

[Valjean]

People like gays lesbians and transgenders should be separated from natural or straight people otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally

I'm not sure I follow, Muhammad.
Are you saying that gays should be separated from society because they don't marry and breed? What's the reasoning behind this?

 

[gsa]

People like gays lesbians and transgenders should be separated from natural or straight people otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally

What does this even mean: "otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally"? Are you trying to say that everyone will abandon heterosexual marriage because gay sex is too groovy to resist?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

People like gays lesbians and transgenders should be separated from natural or straight people otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally

 

[Debater Slayer]

People like gays lesbians and transgenders should be separated from natural or straight people otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally

Another member with a Muslim name making an extremely hateful statement about homosexual and transgendered people.

I think Sam Harris was absolutely right. There's a genuine clash of civilizations between the civilized world and the Muslim one, and certain religions are indeed a threat to civilization. We would be deluding ourselves to pretend otherwise.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I'm not sure I follow, Muhammad.
Are you saying that gays should be separated from society because they don't marry and breed? What's the reasoning behind this?

I think he's saying that he can't possibly be expected to marry a woman with a whole bunch of tempting gay guys around.

 

[Jainarayan]

What does this even mean: "otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally"? Are you trying to say that everyone will abandon heterosexual marriage because gay sex is too groovy to resist?

He uncovered part of the Homosexual Agenda® which clearly states in Chapter II, paragraph 17:

All homosexual males shall, by any and all possible means, seduce heterosexual men, especially the hunky ones, away from their wives and children and force them to live our filthy lifestyle of circuit parties (at which all participants shall dress fabulously) and rampant, anonymous and promiscuous gay sex.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

What does this even mean: "otherwise there will certainly be a distinction for mankind as there are no natural marriage to give birth naturally"? Are you trying to say that everyone will abandon heterosexual marriage because gay sex is too groovy to resist?

For those who believe that homosexuality is a choice, and an abominable choice at that (because it isn't missionary-position, cisgender, procreative sex with a young fertile woman happy to pop out as many babies as her patriarch wishes for himself)...then I think that's a viable underlying assumption.

 

[Jainarayan]

For those who believe that homosexuality is a choice, and an abominable choice at that (because it isn't missionary-position, cisgender, procreative sex with a young fertile woman happy to pop out as many babies as her patriarch wishes for himself)...then I think that's a viable underlying assumption.

Well, I do find the combination of purple taffeta and orange feathers to be an abomination. And have you seen this year's men's European shoulder bags!? *gag*

Wait, I'm not helping the cause, am I?