sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Neither did Muhammed conquer and rule a nation by inspiring followers with human-made speech that went against their liking. He conquered and ruled a nation by military force.Response: The use of military force does not change the fact that his followers were Muslims due to being inspired by the Qur'an. So your weak rebuttal fails to invalidate the challenge, while your ducking and dodging to answer it confirms your denial to the fact that the challenge proves the Qur'an is true.
As for the rest, not only does no source on the planet say that any individual you just named conquered and ruled a nation by inspiring followers with human-made speech that goes against their liking, nor can you quote and prove otherwise, but if asked of what proof you have that they did do it, your answer is "because a book says so". Such evidence is hearsay, while the Qur'an challenge is firsthand. Hearsay is not more credible than firsthand evidence. Thus you've failed three times in just one post, debunking yourself as usual and supporting the fact that the challenge proves the Qur'an is true. Thanks for the assistance.
My point was that there were others (and not only those known only by a book -- to wit: MLK and Ghandi -- they're both well-documented outside of history books) who did influence large numbers of people and who did begin change in nations with their words, as you "claim" Muhammed did (although that "fact" can only be ascertained through historic writings). I watched MLK make speeches. I can see the fallout from his words. Did you witness Muhammed first-hand, or is only through "heresy," as you put it? Jesus started a religion with his words and example -- just as you say Muhammed did.
The "challenge" is bogus, because Muhammed patently did not do what the "challenge" claims he did.