Why do some atheists have to be so insulting and mean?

[Trailblazer]

Do what I do - pray for them. Anyone who feels the need to resort to using insults or put-downs is not a particularly joyful soul.

I wish I had it in me to pray for him but I don't. Yes, I am sure he is miserable but it is not fair to take it out on me, then try to make it look like I did something wrong. I know I didn't but I have a tendency to feel guilty about everything so others abuse me and give me their guilt.

 

[Trailblazer]

I was permanently banned ever so recently unjustly. I just used a VPN to create a new account and went right back to speak my mouth clean of course as soon as it was noticed by my banner everything I had written disappeared and so did I. They can leave no evidence about their corrupt behaviour lying around.

Thanks... That really helps to know it is not just me... I know it isn't but the forum owner keeps blaming me for what he did... It is so unjust and so dishonest. But he has all power because he owns the forum... I told Him in a personal message that he really doesn't have all power, because God has All Power.

 

[YmirGF]

Not bold at all...
He is the owner of a forum that is supposed to be a religious forum for both believers and nonbelievers.

Good Lordy. His site must be marvelous with that kind of attitude.
I'd cancel my membership and come back here and dig in.
We don't tend to be too harsh to Bahai folks here.

And talking about god on a religious forum???? What were you thinking?

 

[Trailblazer]

Good Lordy. His site must be marvelous with that kind of attitude.
I'd cancel my membership and come back here and dig in.
We don't tend to be too harsh to Bahai folks here.

And talking about god on a religious forum???? What were you thinking?

He blocked me from posting there and then he lied to the whole forum about why... Susan has been bad again, like I am a small child... I did none of what he accused me of. I posted him the forum rules in a private message and went through each one showing how I broke no rules and how he broke his own rules -- no personal jabs, no insults... Since when is calling someone a brainwashed believer and calling them ignorant not an insult? No, those comments are not allowed unless they are directed at a believer, mainly me because I am a Baha'i... Christians and Jews can post there all they want to and they are sitting pretty.

People believe him because he is so coy, such a good liar, I think he even believes his own blarney, only God knows. But dontcha know, god does not exist so he is accountable to nobody except himself. What a huge gamble, but when one is that arrogant it is no gamble at all.

What was I thinking indeed, talking about God on a religious forum... I should be ashamed... But it all goes well as long as I agree with them that God is a bad dude, but as soon as I say God is good it all hits the fan.

The moderator calls god a malevolent megalomanic who enjoys watching humans suffer.... but as I pointed out, if all the bad things that happen are because an omnipotent God is responsible all the good things that happen are also due to God, that is logic 101 stuff... that is when it hit the fan because I pointed out the illogic and they could not face reality.

 

[sayak83]

Why do some atheists have to be so insulting and mean? I am a believer and I do not ever insult atheists; in fact I tell them their lack of belief is just as rational as my beliefs since nobody can prove there is a God. I never threaten them with hell because I do not even believe in hell.

But I constantly have to defend myself from being call brainwashed and stupid and having dumb arguments, just because I believe in God and have a religion that is different from Christianity, a religion they do not know how to refute. Nobody deserves to be treated this way.

If atheists want to say they need no God for morality then some of them are not doing a very good job of demonstrating that with their air of superiority, arrogance, and rude behavior, not to mention dishonesty, lack of self-awareness and unjust treatment of others.

I am not referring to any atheists in this forum. They have been more than civil and respectful and kind.

I am being called stupid but I am not stupid. I went to college for over 15 years and I have several degrees, two advanced. But I am called stupid because my degrees are not in science subjects, because I do not know a lot about history. So what? What is more important, how much one knows or how they treat their fellow man?

You are interacting with the wrong people. Just choose a different crowd.

 

[Trailblazer]

You are interacting with the wrong people. Just choose a different crowd.

Thanks, I just did that last night when I came back here.

 

[sayak83]

Thanks, I just did that last night when I came back here.

A thread actually concluded with a positive outcome!

 

[Trailblazer]

A thread actually concluded with a positive outcome!

I sure hope so... I really need something positive right now.

 

[tayla]

Why do some atheists have to be so insulting and mean?

Seems to me certain people of all categories are this way. Not sure if it's more for some groups than others, would have to do a sociological study to learn the answer.

 

[Trailblazer]

Seems to me certain people of all categories are this way. Not sure if it's more for some groups than others, would have to do a sociological study to learn the answer.

Thanks... I think it is more of a psychological problem than anything else. Of course it could also be a spiritual problem, but that has nothing to do with belief or lack thereof since many atheists are spiritual. A spiritual problem is just a lack of character and people are responsible for that. A psychological problem is not blameworthy.

 

[YmirGF]

I sure hope so... I really need something positive right now.

Well, this strong atheist offers you a warm re-welcome. Unlike some, I am secure enough in my own understanding that I do not feel a great need to belittle the ideology of others --- to often. (OK, I'm a human.) I save my ire for the times that people are not listening, but it doesn't happen too often. I'd much rather make people laugh than see them cry.

 

[Trailblazer]

Well, this strong atheist offers you a warm re-welcome. Unlike some, I am secure enough in my own understanding that I do not feel a great need to belittle the ideology of others --- to often. (OK, I'm a human.) I save my ire for the times that people are not listening, but it doesn't happen too often. I'd much rather make people laugh than see them cry.

I think we will get along... I am also secure enough in my own understanding so I am not threatened by anyone else but that does not mean I think I know everything, and that others do not have valid truths as well... We all gravitate where we gravitate for our our own reasons so we should accept each other the way we are... I see no reason to fight and try to be right or convince anyone of anything... I gave up trying to win arguments on forums a long time ago and realized it was just a game and a clash of egos... Now I just come to share and learn, not to prove anything... I also come to make friends.

I really dislike negativity but some people thrive on that, so I just have to steer clear of them... They try so hard but they cannot knock me down and make me realize I am wrong about what I believe but why do that? ... I never told an atheist they should believe in God or that they will be sorry if they don't... We are all one people and we just need to live in harmony and unity.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Now you've lost me

Simply suggesting that stating anything about 'most atheists' is bound to be wrong, and is certainly speaking without knowledge.
It's much the same if people speak about 'theists' as some sort of homogenuous group.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I do not believe there is hell or that anyone will be tortured by God...
But all people should pay for their actions, whether they are a believer or a nonbeliever.
If they hurt other people they should hurt the way they hurt others... but they can escape that hurt if they are just kind.

Well, in an Ideal Universe, yes-- all people would be held responsible for their actions.

And in an ideal situation? The consequences would be immediate.

Alas, it simply Isn't To Be, is it? No-- far too many folk get away with literal murder sometimes, simply because they are born to the "Right" people. Or they have incredible wealth (typically because they were born into it-- almost never because they earned it).

And if being kind were enough? No kindly little old lady would ever go hungry-- ever.

I wish this were So. But it simply isn't So. The Universe is Indifferent, and seems to not care in the slightest if people are mean or kind or simply indifferent. The Universe simply Is.

It's up to us lowly humans to be Kind. I applaud your desire to also be Kind-- I wish more people were like you strive to be.

I think that this life is All There Is, and why not be Kind? My hope for you is that you experience more Kindness, and less Meanness.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Trailblazer,
Atheists,
Atheists don’t believe in a God, so they believe that will not be judged on their actions. This leaves them open to do what they want to do, whenever they want to do it, with no ramifications.
Boy, are they in for a big surprise???

As another has said - you are hardly an inspiration - and at your age, I would have thought you might have become a bit more tolerant of others' beliefs or not. Is this the true Christian message? Atheists have the onerous job of thinking about their behaviour rather than just following a set of rules, and which often vary between religious beliefs. You might be happy with yours, just as others are happy with their beliefs, but to expect that you are right and they are wrong is just sheer arrogance.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Yes, he lost it and he is not worth bothering with. All believers are stupid and brainwashed and belief is the lowest form of thought, said by the owner of a forum where insults are against the rules.

It certainly does not help with morals though.

Certainly doesn't.

 

[HonestJoe]

This one hasn't. He is just arrogant. Arrogance leads to meanness when someone is called out for being wrong, especially when they have no evidence to prove accusations they are hurling. It is like a mean dog backed into a corner.

So you’re talking about one individual you only know from their on-line presence yet you generalised their actions to attack atheist in general? I’ve also seen another reply on this thread where you threw out the old canard that atheists have no morals which I would call wrong, mean and arrogant. Cast out the beam from your own eye maybe?

 

[stvdv]

I do not usually say this but in this case I sure hope he gets the big surprise

I won't be surprised he will get. Once I was a little "not nice", I could have said it nicer to the one being not nice to me. Then I thought "oke, I am curious when I get this karma back". Within 20min "I got my big surprise" [of course I was very happy this happened, kind of proved to me that there is some justice in this crazy world; this happened twice to me]. So I believe now that everyone gets one day what they created to others [though, sometimes I wish they get it as fast as I got it that day]

 

[stvdv]

All believers are stupid and brainwashed and belief is the lowest form of thought, said by the owner of a forum where insults are against the rules.

He might have read "animal farm" and misinterpreted it. In it the animals took over, because man were so unjust. Pigs were in charge, and made the rule "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

 

[Unveiled Artist]

He blocked me from posting there and then he lied to the whole forum about why... Susan has been bad again, like I am a small child... I did none of what he accused me of. I posted him the forum rules in a private message and went through each one showing how I broke no rules and how he broke his own rules -- no personal jabs, no insults... Since when is calling someone a brainwashed believer and calling them ignorant not an insult? No, those comments are not allowed unless they are directed at a believer, mainly me because I am a Baha'i... Christians and Jews can post there all they want to and they are sitting pretty.

People believe him because he is so coy, such a good liar, I think he even believes his own blarney, only God knows. But dontcha know, god does not exist so he is accountable to nobody except himself. What a huge gamble, but when one is that arrogant it is no gamble at all.

What was I thinking indeed, talking about God on a religious forum... I should be ashamed... But it all goes well as long as I agree with them that God is a bad dude, but as soon as I say God is good it all hits the fan.

The moderator calls god a malevolent megalomanic who enjoys watching humans suffer.... but as I pointed out, if all the bad things that happen are because an omnipotent God is responsible all the good things that happen are also due to God, that is logic 101 stuff... that is when it hit the fan because I pointed out the illogic and they could not face reality.

Was just thinking, I do have a similar experience (just to add). I used to go to a Buddhist forum. The set up is nice but not the people. The firet time I came there years ago, I mentioned my experience with catholicism. The "supervisor" jumped on me saying I wasnt a real Buddhist and was mixed (similar what I got here but thank gosh only from a member, but thats it). Anyway, senior member at that site kept making jokes.

After awhile, it felt like they were ganging up and others say "why you so defensive." The supervisor kept messaging me to tell me I kept doing something wrong with the rules. In ALL foruns I read the rules. Trust issues.

Years later, I came back. I ignored the supervisor. Then I made a thread and she was the first to make a sassy comment. A newer member called her out on it and I messaged him saying thank you. It wasnt me. Just senior members seem to have issues with other religions others have grudges.

I went to another buddhist forum and said I started practicing at the Kadampa temple. Its the only lineage in my area who speak english. They warned me and said not to talk about it YET all the tibetan practices has their own sub forum, we just couldnt use the K-word. A member fussed at me in message and reported me.

I found another buddhist forum set up by monks and strictly Dharma study based. No "outsiders" (no one making a ruckess) and very few people outside the Theravada school including myself. Youd survive there if youre familar with the suttas for study and indepth talk.

I dont know what forum you were on. The christian forum I mentioned welcomes christians (no JW and no mormons no non trinitarians) with open arms. If you want the link, I'll give it to you.