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Why Do Theists Believe In God?

Vaderecta

Vaderecta

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savagewind said:
I believe in GOD because everything (even the bad stuff) is too wonderful for nothing to have done it.
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I don't think anyone is arguing nothing begets something. (I know of one such argument but haven't seen it brought up here) You are essentially made possible by your mom and dad. And they by theirs. So on and so forth. What is your argument?
 
savagewind

savagewind

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Vaderecta said:
I don't think anyone is arguing nothing begets something. (I know of one such argument but haven't seen it brought up here) You are essentially made possible by your mom and dad. And they by theirs. So on and so forth. What is your argument?
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But, it's not sloppy. I hate dumb. The World and people aren't so very dumb. Can you EXPLAIN that?
 
savagewind

savagewind

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Skwim said:
(Kind of an after thought follow-up to my thread "Why Is It That Atheists Don't Believe In God?")

In One Word Tell Us Why You Think Theists Believe In God.

After that one word feel free to elaborate. :)

My one word is "NEED."

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Easy. Trust
 
savagewind

savagewind

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Nevermind all that. There has to be someone to trust. Well, there isn't. But, then, there is GOD!
 
Shantanu

Shantanu

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Ancient Soul said:
Like everything in the Christian mythology, that's complicated also.

Now while what you stated is what most are brainwashed to believe, their book of mythology clearly states that their "god" Jesus will raise all the dead from the foundations of the world to make up his army. And he will then create a "new earth" where all the "saved" Christians will spend all eternity, and he will rule over them with a "rod of iron" with the help of his "risen from the dead" army. Which sounds pretty grim to me. It's in the book of the bible called "Revelation". It's pretty demented and sounds more Satanic to me, but they love it for some reason. I think it's like people who like horror movies.
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Is not the idea to give them a motive to be good?
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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Ancient Soul said:
The main problem with that is how the "holy spirit" is claimed to guide them ALL to the ultimate understanding of their bible, yet ALL Christians have wildly different interpretations on most everything and can therefore never agree on what it means.
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Different interpretations means it is logically impossible that the Holy Spirit is guiding all of them.
Why would the Holy Spirit guide some and not all?
Are the rest of the Christians misguided?
How could anyone possibly know they are "the ones" the Holy Spirit is guiding?

So many questions, so few answers. ;)
 
A Vestigial Mote

A Vestigial Mote

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Lack.

Elaboration: This actually works on multiple levels, I feel. Theists lack quite a few tools that enable a person to "see through the haze":

  • There's a lack of understanding, or even a lack of ability to grasp certain concepts or knowledge at various levels - evolution, as an obvious (albeit stereotypical - and yes I know not all theists disbelieve evolution) example, or as a more specific example - endogenous retroviruses as evidence of common-descent/evolution. And this isn't put here to bash theists who can't grasp certain things - it may simply mean that they find the subjects tedious, or boring. As a personal example, I bet I could pound out some serious macrame if I put my mind to it... but I'm not going to put my mind to it, because I find the process (and the end-results for the most part) incredibly tedious and boring.
  • There's a lack of security in just being "human". This can be seen quite plainly in many theists denial that they are "animals" (again, I realize this is pretty much a stereotype - but it exists for extremely obvious reasons, and this isn't the only reason I list this bullet item). Like it or not, this is a sign of complete insecurity in what you are, or may be. What you are is what you are - and you don't need anything else informing you what you are.
  • I feel there is a lack of humility - even as many of them supposedly aspire to be humble. From so many discussions, I get the idea that they just can't imagine living in a world that doesn't have some "plan" or "purpose" laid out for them. They can't imagine living in a universe that doesn't give special consideration/privilege to their race (i.e. THEMSELVES specifically). This is the entire reason for all the arguments about objective morality! They feel that humans (again - very especially including themselves) automatically deserve some amount of respect from the universe at large by default!
 
Vaderecta

Vaderecta

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savagewind said:
But, it's not sloppy. I hate dumb. The World and people aren't so very dumb. Can you EXPLAIN that?
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How is it sloppy or dumb? Your parents mated and produced you and you possess some of their and their ancestors genes and have developed based on that and your nutrition and your environment. Not sure what you want explained.
 
savagewind

savagewind

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Vaderecta said:
How is it sloppy or dumb? Your parents mated and produced you and you possess some of their and their ancestors genes and have developed based on that and your nutrition and your environment. Not sure what you want explained.
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Me neither. Sometimes, I mean, often, I forget.
 
youknowme

youknowme

Whatever you want me to be.
Skwim said:
(Kind of an after thought follow-up to my thread "Why Is It That Atheists Don't Believe In God?")

In One Word Tell Us Why You Think Theists Believe In God.

After that one word feel free to elaborate. :)

My one word is "NEED."

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Lackadaisical

Elaboration: It is a cool word and I could care less why people believe in their "God".
 
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