Why does Donald Trump hold such power over the Republican Party?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

And the Democratic Party has evolved into the elitist party which patronizes and exploits minorities for their own gain.



“Again and again, Biden’s relationship with black Americans, like the Democratic National Committee’s relationship, has been patronizing at best and actively harmful at worst.”

“The Democratic party holds black people in an abusive relationship but says you cannot leave because the other option is more abusive. That’s why I don’t believe that a vote against Biden solely means a vote for Trump. Perhaps it is a vote against being captured by the party that makes empty promises every four years when it is election time, and delivers nothing. Perhaps it is a vote against the crime bill, drones and deportations. Perhaps it is a vote against covert and overt racism.”

Black Americans are in an abusive relationship with the Democratic party | Derecka Purnell

An offensive comment by the Democratic presidential candidate is a reminder that black people – all people – deserve better than Joe Biden

www.theguardian.com

But it appears many are waking up and choosing to no longer be pawns of a party that doesn’t actually care, but merely uses them.


“Ironically, it has been the party's populists that have changed the trajectory. As today's Republicans focus more on class and culture, it is beginning to attract voters of all races who share their views on those issues.

This new Republican approach met a Democratic Party dominated by far left elites, giving it an even harder time convincing Black conservatives that there's a place for them on the Left. And as Republicans begin to finally learn how to tone down the "stuck on the Democrat plantation" rhetoric and get serious about winning over black voters by offering them what they're looking for, those Black voters who are already more ideologically aligned with the GOP are becoming more comfortable voting for that party's candidates.”

It's Not Just Hispanics. The Democrats Are Losing the Black Vote.

If the Democratic Party is determined to fully turn into the party of the white liberal, they will displace millions of black and Hispanic voters.

www.newsweek.com

Instead of old opinion pieces (which are, by their very nature, opinions rather than verified facts), why don't you give us, in your own words, a little list of ways in which the Democratic party "patronizes and exploits minorities for their own gain."

 

[Wandering Monk]

There's often an attraction by many for "strong leaders", especially when they are disgruntled with the status quo. When one looks at the historical support for fascists worldwide, I don't think there's that's much more mystery left.

BTW, I just read this morning that in NY state, Trump is now leading Biden by several points.

"Katy, bar the door!"

Polls are worthless.

Better indicators might be voter registration trends, and as we get closer to election, who is voting early.

 

[LuisDantas]

American politics is largely a mutual support society for people who want real hard to believe that they deserve to be influential and respected despite having no principles nor wisdom to speak of.

FTFY

The part you left out is kind of important, you know.

 

[LuisDantas]

I don't possess the absolute truth. I just express my personal opinion. First Amendment.

You are NOT entitled to talk without accepting any responsibility whatsoever for what you actually say.

It is kind of basic, you know. Children are expected to know that at least sometimes, for crying out loud!

 

[Father Heathen]

And because most American citizens are of German descent. As Trump is.

Most Americans either don't know or don't care about that. You don't actually think that's a significant enough reason for someone to gain support, do you?

 

[InChrist]

Instead of old opinion pieces (which are, by their very nature, opinions rather than verified facts), why don't you give us, in your own words, a little list of ways in which the Democratic party "patronizes and exploits minorities for their own gain."

Democrats constantly claim that they represent the interests of low-income, working-class, non-white Americans to influence the voting of minorities. Yet, Democratic policies and programs continue to damage minority communities and Democrat controlled cities, which are disproportionately crime-ridden, with fewer economic and educational opportunities. All the while the Democratic politicians pocket, skim, or waste money which was meant to help those in need.

The Democrats oppose giving parents freedom to control where their children go to school and what they learn.

Democrats oppose limiting government so businesses and the economy are free to grow at a healthy pace, curbing inflation.

I think the Democratic party, rather than helping minority people and communities become prosperous and safe would rather simply provide token handouts to keep people dependent and under their control.
Under the guise of caring about low-income or minority Americans, the Democratic Party wind up hurting these very communities.


So where does the passion of Democrats really lie, in improving lives of citizens or in dramatically expanding government?

 

[Sand Dancer]

FYI...

Analyzing Black Support for President Trump

Donald Trump's consistently low approval ratings among blacks highlight the challenge he faces in attempting to improve on his 2016 black vote share.

news.gallup.com

Trump’s Latino Support Was More Widespread Than Thought, Report Finds (Published 2021)

While Latinos played a major role in Democratic victories last year, Donald Trump’s outreach to them proved successful in states around the country, not just in certain geographic areas.

www.nytimes.com

17 Black Celebrities Who Support Donald Trump | Essence

Check out 17 Black celebrities who have publicly spoken out in support of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

www.essence.com

I do not try to generalize a whole group of people, but define and understand studies and trends.

 

[Sand Dancer]

The Democrats oppose giving parents freedom to control where their children go to school and what they learn.

Democrats oppose limiting government so businesses and the economy are free to grow at a healthy pace, curbing inflation.

There are ways to go to school out of your district. That's a fairly new thing I think. Businesses can also be predatory and discriminatory, so they require government oversight.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Democrats constantly claim that they represent the interests of low-income, working-class, non-white Americans to influence the voting of minorities. Yet, Democratic policies and programs continue to damage minority communities and Democrat controlled cities, which are disproportionately crime-ridden, with fewer economic and educational opportunities. All the while the Democratic politicians pocket, skim, or waste money which was meant to help those in need.

How unconscious do you need to be not to know that large urban centres -- everywhere around the world -- have more crime for the extremely simple reason that they have more people per square inch? Or that you are wrong -- they actually have more economic and educational opportunities, but also people competing for those opportunities?

But you merely claim that Democrats are pocketing and skimming money -- an example please. But of course, there won't be one. I've watched you long enough to know that you know what you know and don't need anything so useless as evidence! That is, in a word, the way the religious impulse works.

 

[Father Heathen]

Party of innocent life!

Only between conception and birth.

 

[Father Heathen]

The gods are replaced by state, it's the same answer as to why the left is the way it is, or the anti trump right folk. It's postmodernism.

Are you implying that people oppose Trump because they "love the state" and not because he's a corrupt, incompetent, dishonest, treasonous rapist?

 

[1137]

And I think yours is an extremely ignorant and perversely dangerous opinion.

Why is it dangerous to realize our politicians are corrupt??

 

[1137]

Are you implying that people oppose Trump because they "love the state" and not because he's a corrupt, incompetent, dishonest, treasonous rapist?

Well there's some stuff to unpack here.

1. Not necessarily. I meant people worship politicians because they worship the state.

2. BUT, in a way yes. Most people don't dislike trump because he is corrupt, incompetent, dishonest, treasonous, and a creep. If that's what people cared about they'd rise up and oust the entirety of our government in one fell swoop. People dislike trump cause those they worship tell them to.

 

[F1fan]

Democrats constantly claim that they represent the interests of low-income, working-class, non-white Americans to influence the voting of minorities. Yet, Democratic policies and programs continue to damage minority communities and Democrat controlled cities, which are disproportionately crime-ridden, with fewer economic and educational opportunities.

Really? Give us examples of this happening.

All the while the Democratic politicians pocket, skim, or waste money which was meant to help those in need.

Give us examples of this too.

The Democrats oppose giving parents freedom to control where their children go to school and what they learn.

Give us evidence that this is true.

Democrats oppose limiting government so businesses and the economy are free to grow at a healthy pace, curbing inflation.

What you must mean is that Democrats are interested in balancing the interests of business with the interests of the public, and set regulations so that public safety is a priority. For example idustries used to be allowed to dump toxic chemicals into creeks and rivers, but this led to soil contamination and water sources being poisoned. The case that made Erin Brocovich famous is a real life consequence of the damage that unregulated business leads to. That includes children who Christians are supposed to care about. We see conservative Christians value greed and business over the health of familes and children. So yes, Democrats take their public service seriously and work to help limit poisons being releaed into our water and air. And you directly benefit even though you oppose them.

I think the Democratic party, rather than helping minority people and communities become prosperous and safe would rather simply provide token handouts to keep people dependent and under their control.

Give us examples.

Under the guise of caring about low-income or minority Americans, the Democratic Party wind up hurting these very communities.

How, give us examples.

So where does the passion of Democrats really lie, in improving lives of citizens or in dramatically expanding government?

False, government is the way citizens all over the world manage themselves, and with more people and more complexity and more interests wanting a slice of the pie government has to meet that challenge. Republicans certainly don't see big government as bad as long as they are in charge. And they use that power to ban books, limit the freedoms of citizens like LGTBQ citizens, deregulation which will cause more pollution and illness, give tax cuts to the wealthy, and cut resources to the most needy.

 

[LuisDantas]

Well there's some stuff to unpack here.

1. Not necessarily. I meant people worship politicians because they worship the state.

2. BUT, in a way yes. Most people don't dislike trump because he is corrupt, incompetent, dishonest, treasonous, and a creep. If that's what people cared about they'd rise up and oust the entirety of our government in one fell swoop. People dislike trump cause those they worship tell them to.

That is... very distanced from anything that exists or happens in the real world.

 

[Father Heathen]

Well there's some stuff to unpack here.

1. Not necessarily. I meant people worship politicians because they worship the state.

2. BUT, in a way yes. Most people don't dislike trump because he is corrupt, incompetent, dishonest, treasonous, and a creep. If that's what people cared about they'd rise up and oust the entirety of our government in one fell swoop. People dislike trump cause those they worship tell them to.

That's ironic, considering the only worship of politicians that I've seen has been by Trump's supporters who somehow see him as an infallible man of god.

 

[Father Heathen]

Let us no longer beat about the bush -- Donald Trump lost the 2020 election. In terms of popular vote, he lost it by just over 7 million popular votes. (He lost the 2016 popular vote by nearly 3 million). In 2020, the Electoral college was 306 Biden, 232 Trump. (The reverse of 2016.)

I have spoken here before about my notions about what humans "believe," and it seems clear to me that there are two sorts of belief -- the stuff we're "supposed" to believe, and the things that we really do believe, in our very heart of hearts. One example I've used: I believe that when my stove burner is glowing red, it would be a very, very bad idea for me to put my hand on it -- and trust me, short of physical violence, nothing will get me to do it! I also believe that it's a stupid waste of money to buy lottery tickets, but then, I think, there's always a slim chance, and it's only a couple of bucks, and so I go ahead and buy them. (And, of course, always lose, or one in a while win a free ticket or $2, whoopee!)

I think it is true of both religions and politics (when humans divide themselves up into sects or parties), that there's a lot of stuff in there we're supposed to believe, but really don't, not down deep, not like the stove burner. Every Christian knows it's wrong to kill, yet a huge number of them favour the death penalty. It took until 2022 for the US, a presumably "Christian" nation, to pass a law against lynching!

I think that Donald Trump's real (and only) skill is an ability to read the hypocrisys of others (easy enough, when you're a garden-full of them yourself), and realized that most of what Republicans say they believe and defend -- well, they really don't! They're mostly "marketing slogans." The "party of life?" Nope, they favour the death penalty. The party of "small government?" Nope, they want government to interfere in people's private lives, including who they can marry.

Trump has learned what the rest of us should have by now -- the majority of Republicans (and I grant this may be true of Democrats, too!) are really only about retaining for themselves the power to direct how everybody else lives. And getting huge donations from the plutocrats who will scorch our earth for their own profit, the future of the planet be damned.

The reason so many republicans are slavishly loyal to Trump is because of the voter base that worships him, so they have to kiss his ring and lick his boots in order to appease their dopy, backward, backwater constituency. Trump emboldened and stoked their racist, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-science, theocratic, etc. sentiments so now that's what their standards and expectations have become.
The republicans have demonstrated a clear willingness to sacrifice morality, law, liberty, and democracy for the sake of political victory. They claim to love this nation while defecating on everything that it's supposed to stand for; freedom, rights, equality, justice, etc.

 

[1137]

That is... very distanced from anything that exists or happens in the real world.

Yes, the postmodernism both sides are embracing explicitly denies reality.

 

[Revoltingest]

I do not try to generalize a whole group of people, but define and understand studies and trends.

But the links show that racism is
inadequate to explain Trump's appeal.

 

[1137]

That's ironic, considering the only worship of politicians that I've seen has been by Trump's supporters who somehow see him as an infallible man of god.

Then I highly recommend paying attention to the world around you.