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Why does homosexuality seem to get more hate?

Adonis65

Active Member
Sometimes I wish I could live in the dark ages too. I'm glad to see you're having a great time there, though.

On a side note, what do I care what states agree with or not? Just because lots of people say "this is so", doesn't mean this is in fact so. That's really not an impressive statistic to be falling back on to to support your beliefs. "This guy and that guy agree with me" is not an argument. Many years ago, many of those you asked would have agreed that the earth was flat... and the sun, moon, planets and the stars revolved around us (still does for some, apparantly).

Everyone else, don't worry. Homophobia and bigotry will eventually pass (even though some will fight it, kicking and screaming all the way) when people start to realise that it serves nothing and no-one, save for a persons own insecurities, and hatred towards their own being. If you cannot show love toward another for simply being, look to yourself as to why. Their existence is equally valid, equally right, and equally important as yours. Why should others not be equally deserving of love, affection and intimacy? What are you afraid of?

Homosexuality is not a threat. It's not out to get you. It's not out to get your family. It's not going to break into your house, steal your things and use the kitchen sink as a bathroom. Homosexuality is going to live in the house across the street, and probably mind it's own business. It's going to be in the restaurant you go to for lunch. It's going to be in the movie theater, serving you popcorn. It'll be that nice young lady that shook your hand at last nights party (don't worry, it washes right off, if you rinse thoroughly with unleaded gas next to a source of ignition).

Do you not see that it's not going to harm you any more than the monster under your bed or the ghost in the cupboard under your stairs? Is the idea that two people can love each other, regardless of gender and whether or not you think it's "right" or "wrong" so difficult to comprehend, and really such a threat to your existence? If so, I would suggest a healthy dose of introspection, perhaps with the assistance of a councilor to help you deal with your insecurities and what you believe about yourself.

Thank you for that sermon on the secular mount, methyl. The problem is that you are wrong at just about every point. Yes, there are nice homosexuals milling about within our communities, but there are also homosexuals who are not nice, at all. These are the ones that the faithful need to be most aware of.

See, you conveniently left out the dark side of the gay community, and understandably so. These are the people that infiltrate our societies and try to redefine what is pure, and good. There is nothing good or pure about homosexual behavior. In every instance it's a burden at best, and an ingredient for total destruction at worst.

Unlike you, I don't wish I could live in your utopia of deprogression. In a very real sense, "progressives" are the most backward people on this planet.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
...but there are also homosexuals who are not so nice. These are the ones that the faithful need to be most aware of.
See, you conveniently left out the dark side of the gay community.... These are the people that infiltrate our societies and try to redefine what is pure, and good. There is nothing good or pure about homosexual behavior. In every instance it's a burden at best, and an ingredient for total destruction at worst.
What group doesn't have its dark side? Who isn't trying to redefine what is "good & pure"? (I know I am.) We also have believers trying to
subvert the Constitution, cadge tax subsidies, grow government's power & even kill in the name of faith. There are malefactors in any
group....except Revoltifarians. Gay folk threaten us no more than do believers.
 
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Tristesse

Well-Known Member
Thank you for that sermon on the secular mount, methyl. The problem is that you are wrong at just about every point. Yes, there are nice christians milling about within our communities, but there are also christians who are not nice, at all. These are the ones that the secular need to be most aware of.

See, you conveniently left out the dark side of the christian community, and understandably so. These are the people that infiltrate our societies and try to redefine what is pure, and good. There is nothing good or pure about christian behavior. In every instance it's a burden at best, and an ingredient for total destruction at worst.

Unlike you, I don't wish I could live in your utopia of deprogression. In a very real sense, christians are the most backward people on this planet.

I couldn't agree more.
 

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
Thank you for that sermon on the secular mount, methyl. The problem is that you are wrong at just about every point. Yes, there are nice homosexuals milling about within our communities, but there are also homosexuals who are not nice, at all. These are the ones that the faithful need to be most aware of.
Do you have the courage to see things from another point of view? Have you considered that perhaps I might not be wrong?

See, you conveniently left out the dark side of the gay community, and understandably so. These are the people that infiltrate our societies and try to redefine what is pure, and good. There is nothing good or pure about homosexual behavior. In every instance it's a burden at best, and an ingredient for total destruction at worst.

Unlike you, I don't wish I could live in your utopia of deprogression. In a very real sense, "progressives" are the most backward people on this planet.

I'm curious as to what you believe the "dark side" of the gay community is, how it differs from any other members of the human race, and how it's so "bad". I'm curious as to what you believe the burden of LGBT is. I've looked for dark sides, burdens and sins. I've educated myself on many points of view on homosexuality, and it might come as a shock to you, but nowhere have I found any evidence that it actually is the cause of anything bad, directly or indirectly. I'll tell you what I have discovered though. I've discovered some of the most important people in my life. I've discovered much about my self. I've discovered that love exists everywhere you look, no matter how much bigotry and hate there is towards it. You can't stop a human being's capacity to love, to share, to be intimate, to be with another in the moment. No amount of jumping up and down, yelling and screaming, or tantruming can change what people feel with every fibre of their being.

Have you ever considered that perhaps your definitions of "pure" and "good" are simply things you happen to agree with? Agree with babies, so babies must be good. Agree with presents, everyone likes presents, so presents must be good. Agree with love, so love must be good. Disagree with rape, so rape must be bad. Disagree with murder, so murder must be bad. Disagree with homosexuality, so homosexuality must be bad.

I'm fairly convinced that backward people are those who hold to views and beliefs that have been around for a long time, and refuse to change their views despite changes in what is known about the mind, the body, plants and animals, the earth, and the universe. Thunderstorms are no longer angry gods throwing lightning, the Earth is no longer the center of the universe, and disease is no longer caused by sin and/or witchcraft. Homosexuality is no longer a sin, an abomination, or any cause for lightning strikes and disease.

To go back to my previous post, you conveniently left out the answers to my questions, and understandably so. It can be hard to face your fears. I don't ask questions I don't want to hear answers to, so I'll give you another chance to answer them. I need to be able to understand what you believe and why, in order to understand why I might be wrong, if I am. Hopefully it doesn't take you too long, there's only 4 here. 7 if you include the questions in this post itself.

A)Their existence is equally valid, equally right, and equally important as yours. Why should others not be equally deserving of love, affection and intimacy?
B)What are you afraid of? (i.e, why does homosexuality scare you)
C)Do you not see that it's not going to harm you any more than the monster under your bed or the ghost in the cupboard under your stairs?
D)Is the idea that two people can love each other, regardless of gender and whether or not you think it's "right" or "wrong" so difficult to comprehend, and really such a threat to your existence?


EDIT: I just want to throw my signature in here, because I feel it is quite relevant and I may change it in the future
"While nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer, nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
-Fryodor Dostoevsky
 
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waitasec

Veteran Member
Thank you for that sermon on the secular mount, methyl. The problem is that you are wrong at just about every point. Yes, there are nice homosexuals milling about within our communities, but there are also homosexuals who are not nice, at all. These are the ones that the faithful need to be most aware of.

See, you conveniently left out the dark side of the gay community, and understandably so. These are the people that infiltrate our societies and try to redefine what is pure, and good. There is nothing good or pure about homosexual behavior. In every instance it's a burden at best, and an ingredient for total destruction at worst.

Unlike you, I don't wish I could live in your utopia of deprogression. In a very real sense, "progressives" are the most backward people on this planet.
:facepalm:
i see so with comparison we can equate christianity to the westboro baptist church...are you a memeber?
 

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
Or you could be completely wrong about the DOMA,
I could, but I have no reason to believe that I am. DOMA makes discrimination the default action of any state by allowing pro-bigot states to ignore marriages enacted in pro-love states. This is not only an ATTACK on marriage, it undermines the unity of the United States by allowing states to ignore the laws of other states. If the logic used to get DOMA around the Full Faith and Credit clause was used in every other sort of contract, we would end up being much closer to each state being it's own mini-nation.
Thus, people who support DOMA are traitors to the nation.

and you're just saddled with fear & angst. Personally, I think that is your problem.
You'd be afraid to if you were part of the most distrusted minority in the nation. Actually, technically, I'm not even that, I'm practically my own one-man cultist group (I tend to deviate from traditional atheism in that while I know God is not real, I generally act as if he was a real threat).

Good for you. You'd be a liar if you did. Now all that's left for you is to purge the hate... it's toxic.
People don't listen when there's no hate. From what I've experienced arguing in the past (especially arguments that I've lost), to convince someone of something, you need to deeply destabilize them emotionally.


That's just your hatred talking. So what can we do to change your opinion of Jesus Christ, T-Dawg?
When did Jesus get brought up? Given what we know about him (which comes entirely from the gospels), he was a lunatic at worst, and heck, I can say that much about myself. He also said nothing whatsoever on the subject of homosexuality, as far as I remember (Christian anti-homosexuality comes mainly from the books of Paul).
 

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
Thank you for that sermon on the secular mount, methyl. The problem is that you are wrong at just about every point. Yes, there are nice homosexuals milling about within our communities, but there are also homosexuals who are not nice, at all. These are the ones that the faithful need to be most aware of.

See, you conveniently left out the dark side of the gay community, and understandably so. These are the people that infiltrate our societies and try to redefine what is pure, and good. There is nothing good or pure about homosexual behavior. In every instance it's a burden at best, and an ingredient for total destruction at worst.

Unlike you, I don't wish I could live in your utopia of deprogression. In a very real sense, "progressives" are the most backward people on this planet.

"Dark side of the gay community"? "Redefine what is pure, and good"? "An ingredient for total destruction"? "Utopia of deprogression"?

Where do you get these profane and unholy ideas? Homosexuality is no more impure than heterosexuality (actually, with lesbians, it's more pure. Much lower chance of STDs with lesbians).

Your rhetoric of dark sides, redefining the good, and total destruction is more applicable to Christianity than homosexuality (as you conveniently demonstrate by attempting to advocate the persecution of homosexuals).
 

The Wizard

Active Member
life isn't so black and white

Something just seems weird, strange or even wrong when the subject presents itself. That is perfectly natural- a self-defence mechanism towards being uncomfortable...more likely.
My sentiments exactly.. all pretty black and white boxes will at many times overlap to "unknown and best guesses"... in reality, but construct reality however it suits until otherwise.. just offering my observation. Homophobia don't equate to bigotry or homo-hatred in many circumstances. When one gets that confused they can become just as much a blind bigot as the homo-hatred folks...imo.
 

averageJOE

zombie
Thank you for that sermon on the secular mount, methyl. The problem is that you are wrong at just about every point. Yes, there are nice homosexuals milling about within our communities, but there are also homosexuals who are not nice, at all. These are the ones that the faithful need to be most aware of.

See, you conveniently left out the dark side of the gay community, and understandably so. These are the people that infiltrate our societies and try to redefine what is pure, and good. There is nothing good or pure about homosexual behavior. In every instance it's a burden at best, and an ingredient for total destruction at worst.

Unlike you, I don't wish I could live in your utopia of deprogression. In a very real sense, "progressives" are the most backward people on this planet.
This is a good example of the subject brought up in the OP.
 

Adonis65

Active Member
What group doesn't have its dark side? Who isn't trying to redefine what is "good & pure"? (I know I am.) We also have believers trying to
subvert the Constitution, cadge tax subsidies, grow government's power & even kill in the name of faith. There are malefactors in any
group....except Revoltifarians. Gay folk threaten us no more than do believers.

Fence sit much?
 

Adonis65

Active Member
"Thank you for that sermon on the secular mount, methyl. The problem is that you are wrong at just about every point. Yes, there are nice christians milling about within our communities, but there are also christians who are not nice, at all. These are the ones that the secular need to be most aware of.

See, you conveniently left out the dark side of the christian community, and understandably so. These are the people that infiltrate our societies and try to redefine what is pure, and good. There is nothing good or pure about christian behavior. In every instance it's a burden at best, and an ingredient for total destruction at worst."

Unlike you, I don't wish I could live in your utopia of deprogression. In a very real sense, christians are the most backward people on this planet."

I couldn't disagree more.

Thank you, Tristesse. I knew you'd eventually come around. ;)
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
This question was propsed in another thread and, with Miss Alice's permission, I thought I'd move it here for further discussion.



Now I may not go so far as to say that most people consider it more disturbing but I have certainly noticed that people who are against homosexuality for religious reasons tend to offer more support and forgiveness to adulterers and those others mentioned than to homosexuals. It also seems that they have to deal with more hate as well. So why is this? Is it simply because homosexual marriage is a major focus right now? It seems to me there's more to it than that though because the hatred and the scorn isn't just coming from more people, but seems to be to a far greater degree in many who hate it than for say adultery or abuse. Why?

Homosexuals are often the object of hate by people with poor upbringing.
 

Adonis65

Active Member
Do you have the courage to see things from another point of view? Have you considered that perhaps I might not be wrong?

I have the courage to keep God's commandments. Anything short of this is of no interest to me. Have you considered that perhaps I might not be wrong either?

To go back to my previous post, you conveniently left out the answers to my questions, and understandably so. It can be hard to face your fears. I don't ask questions I don't want to hear answers to, so I'll give you another chance to answer them. I need to be able to understand what you believe and why, in order to understand why I might be wrong, if I am. Hopefully it doesn't take you too long, there's only 4 here. 7 if you include the questions in this post itself.

A)Their existence is equally valid, equally right, and equally important as yours. Why should others not be equally deserving of love, affection and intimacy?
B)What are you afraid of? (i.e, why does homosexuality scare you)
C)Do you not see that it's not going to harm you any more than the monster under your bed or the ghost in the cupboard under your stairs?
D)Is the idea that two people can love each other, regardless of gender and whether or not you think it's "right" or "wrong" so difficult to comprehend, and really such a threat to your existence?

There is no fear on my part, methyl. I'll gladly answer your questions, now that I have the time.

A. Everyone is equally deserving of love, affection and intimacy. It's why I married my wife. It's why my brother married his wife, and it's why my sister married her husband. Man and woman were meant to be together, as ordained by God. Honestly, I don't understand your confusion in this matter.

B. Homosexuality is a sin, and sin scares me; especially unrepentant sin. I've seen the hell it creates both in my own life as well as others.

C. Do you see that your sarcasm doesn't work on me? In the past I would've fired off an equally snide rejoinder, but I won't stoop. Again, sin scares me, and I've already told you why.

D. Homosexuality is impossible for me to comprehend, as it is sin; it's contrary to everything I stand for. Unrepentant sin is even worse. It spurs on fear, hatred, and deception.

Any other questions?
 

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
I have the courage to keep God's commandments. Anything short of this is of no interest to me. Have you considered that perhaps I might not be wrong either?



There is no fear on my part, methyl. I'll gladly answer your questions, now that I have the time.

A. Everyone is equally deserving of love, affection and intimacy. It's why I married my wife. It's why my brother married his wife, and it's why my sister married her husband. Man and woman were meant to be together, as ordained by God. Honestly, I don't understand your confusion in this matter.

B. Homosexuality is a sin, and sin scares me; especially unrepentant sin. I've seen the hell it creates both in my own life as well as others.

C. Do you see that your sarcasm doesn't work on me? In the past I would've fired off an equally snide rejoinder, but I won't stoop. Again, sin scares me, and I've already told you why.

D. Homosexuality is impossible for me to comprehend, as it is sin; it's contrary to everything I stand for. Unrepentant sin is even worse. It spurs on fear, hatred, and deception.

Any other questions?

Your basic premise - that homosexuality is a "sin" - is wrong, regardless of what "God" says.
Considering that you worship God (from what you've told me), you obviously don't have a problem with deceit, incest, murder, genocide, jealousy, slavery, authoritarianism, polygamy, or hypocrisy (all either encouraged or portrayed by God at some point in the Old Testament, with some carrying on to the New), so you don't seem to be as repulsed by "sin" as you claim to be, as God has never repented (I wonder, COULD a hypothetical omniscient and omnipotent being repent of something? Or would it not be able to because it has no one to answer to?).
 

Adonis65

Active Member
Your basic premise - that homosexuality is a "sin" - is wrong, regardless of what "God" says.
Considering that you worship God (from what you've told me), you obviously don't have a problem with deceit, incest, murder, genocide, jealousy, slavery, authoritarianism, polygamy, or hypocrisy (all either encouraged or portrayed by God at some point in the Old Testament, with some carrying on to the New), so you don't seem to be as repulsed by "sin" as you claim to be, as God has never repented (I wonder, COULD a hypothetical omniscient and omnipotent being repent of something? Or would it not be able to because it has no one to answer to?).

You have no idea what you are talking about. If it isn't commanded of God, then it is sin. And since you know nothing of God, nor do you care to know about God, you are content with sin. Perhaps one day, after the bulk of America as we know it has been rotting in its own decadence, you people will wake up and realize that living under the flag of Gangland/Radical Islam isn't as appealing as originally thought.
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
"Thank you for that sermon on the secular mount, methyl. The problem is that you are wrong at just about every point. Yes, there are nice christians milling about within our communities, but there are also christians who are not nice, at all. These are the ones that the secular need to be most aware of.

See, you conveniently left out the dark side of the christian community, and understandably so. These are the people that infiltrate our societies and try to redefine what is pure, and good. There is nothing good or pure about christian behavior. In every instance it's a burden at best, and an ingredient for total destruction at worst."

Unlike you, I don't wish I could live in your utopia of deprogression. In a very real sense, christians are the most backward people on this planet."



Thank you, Tristesse. I knew you'd eventually come around. ;)

HAHA! I did that to show you the absolute bigotry in your statement. But I'm sure you already knew that.
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
I have the courage to keep God's commandments. Anything short of this is of no interest to me. Have you considered that perhaps I might not be wrong either?



There is no fear on my part, methyl. I'll gladly answer your questions, now that I have the time.

A. Everyone is equally deserving of love, affection and intimacy. It's why I married my wife. It's why my brother married his wife, and it's why my sister married her husband. Man and woman were meant to be together, as ordained by God. Honestly, I don't understand your confusion in this matter.

B. Homosexuality is a sin, and sin scares me; especially unrepentant sin. I've seen the hell it creates both in my own life as well as others.

C. Do you see that your sarcasm doesn't work on me? In the past I would've fired off an equally snide rejoinder, but I won't stoop. Again, sin scares me, and I've already told you why.

D. Homosexuality is impossible for me to comprehend, as it is sin; it's contrary to everything I stand for. Unrepentant sin is even worse. It spurs on fear, hatred, and deception.

Any other questions?

Letter A negates letter B.

Let me explain, you first state that EVERYONE is deserving of love, affection and intimacy. You then go on to state that Homosexuality is a sin, so, I guess you didn't mean everyone. Just the ones you agree with.

Do you know wha else is sin? Working on the sabbath. Does it sacre you when people work on the Sabbath? It should. I mean if sin scares you.
 

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
You have no idea what you are talking about. If it isn't commanded of God, then it is sin. And since you know nothing of God, nor do you care to know about God, you are content with sin. Perhaps one day, after the bulk of America as we know it has been rotting in its own decadence, you people will wake up and realize that living under the flag of Gangland/Radical Islam isn't as appealing as originally thought.

It is YOU that has no idea what you are talking about, as you have consistently demonstrated throughout this thread.

You obviously don't know God at all and/or are content with his vile ways.
Just off the top of my head:
God lies to Adam and Eve when he tells them that they "will surely die" if they eat from the tree of knowledge.
God murders an innocent animal to provide clothing to "cover" Adam and Eve's sin when they don't die as he foretold.
God sets up Abel as the priestly upper class and favors his offering over Cain's offering (this is not explicitly stated, but I infer it from the fact that Abel was a shepherd - as meat eating was not authorized until later in the Bible, the sheep would have had no purpose but to be given to God).
God floods and destroys the entire earth, except for Noah and his family. Noah's family and the pairs of animals are expected to repopulate the entire earth (lots and lots of incest. Good thing this was before God declared incest to be wrong later on when he gave the Israelites the Law).
Abraham, considered by God to be "righteous," lies to a local ruler that Sarah is his sister (and not his wife), almost bringing destruction upon the region when the ruler believes him and takes her into his harem (humorously, this situation is repeated almost exactly later on with Isaac and Rebecca, if memory serves correct).
Lot tries to give his "virgin" daughter to an angry mob to appease them, because raping her would be better than them (homosexually) raping the angels. As far as I remember, this is not condemned.
God burns down the entire cities of Sodom and Gomorrah for vague sins (many Christians claim that their sin was homosexuality but this is never explicitly stated).
Lot's wife gets turned into a pillar of salt merely for looking back at Sodom as it burned.
Lot's daughters get him drunk and sleep with him to become pregnant. This action is not condemned anywhere else in the Bible.
Jacob openly makes Joseph his favorite child, which is apparently endorsed by God.
After Joseph gets into a leadership position in Egypt, he starts collecting grain from the people to save up for famine time (presumably this was done by taxation). This would be all well and good, except for the subtle detail that Joseph SELLS the grain instead of giving it back to the people. This eventually results in the people going broke and everyone but the priestly class is forced to sell themselves into slavery to Pharaoh. Joseph is hailed as a hero.
This is probably one of the most effective stories at getting the point across: Later on, the Hebrews become slaves to Egypt (although this is doubtful historically, we will go by the Bible here). After Pharaoh starts becoming afraid of the growing Israelite population and oppresses them, God uses Moses as his messenger and commands Pharaoh to free the Israelites. Pharaoh, not wanting to lose his slaves, refuses - however, the key here is WHY he refuses repeatedly - God repeatedly "hardens his heart" so that he would reject Moses after each plague. God does this not to punish the Egyptians for being cruel slavedrivers (most of the Egyptians couldn't have been slavedrivers anyway because they were slaves themselves to Pharaoh), but to show the world how powerful he is.
God approves the murder of many Israelites who begin worshiping a golden calf after Moses leaves to get the Ten Commandments (apparently God's method of showing everyone how powerful he was didn't work very well).
God commands the genocide of the entire region of Canaan so that he can give the land to the Israelites and set up his chosen kingdom. The Israelites were also punished when they spared anyone, including women and children.
In God's code of law, stoning is a very common punishment. Rebellious children are stoned, witches are stoned, adulterers are stoned... rapists are not stoned, however, they are forced to marry the person they raped - this was because women had no rights, and non-virgins would be worthless on the marriage market. The forced marriage was intended to ensure the woman continued to have some financial support. (However, if the woman didn't scream loudly enough when being raped, it was assumed that the act was consensual, and thus worthy of stoning.)
After the tribe of Benjamin is decimated by a war (perpetrated by the other Israelites), they realize that the population was in danger of going extinct due to most of the women being dead. As a solution, the men of Benjamin were allowed to kidnap women who went outdoors to celebrate some holiday (I forget which) that happened to have been going on, and take them as their wives. The Israelites made it up to the fathers of these women, but the opinions of the women themselves didn't seem to bear any significance.
David commits adultery with Bathsheba and has her husband killed, which was bad. However, God's punishment for David was to murder the resulting baby (I may be getting this mixed up with another David story, correct me if I'm wrong).
God is angry at Israel, so he convinces David to conduct a census, and then punishes David for said census. David is given three options of punishment - if memory serves correct, 3 days of terrible plague, 3 months of running away from his enemies, or 3 years of famine. David chooses the plague, so God sends his death angel to slaughter the Israelites. After a brief period of immense destruction, God orders his angel to stop, and even David voices his concern over why innocent people were punished instead of him. To placate God, David buys some property from a farmer and uses it to set up an altar.
Some kids make fun of Elijah's bald spot, so God sends wild bears to maul them.
(My memory gets fuzzier later on in the Old Testament, so I'm going to go ahead and skip to the New)
God chooses Mary to be the earthly mother of his son Jesus. Mary does not have a choice in this (although fortunately, she is ecstatic over the prospect of getting to be so useful to God).
Jesus (the alleged son of God, and also God himself, according to trinitarian doctrine) shuns a woman who comes begging to him for help as a test of her faith. He says that he came only for the Israelites, and it was not fit to take food away from the children and give it to the dogs. The woman reasons with him, saying that even the dogs get crumbs that fall off the master's table. Impressed by the woman's "faith," Jesus reverses his original position (whether or not his original statement was merely a test is somewhat vague, but either way, it's not exactly showing omnibenevolence).
God sends his son Jesus supposedly to die for the world's sins. This is a continuation of God's policy that only INNOCENT things can be punished as a substitute for the GUILTY person. Notice that with God, SOMETHING always has to die, be it a lamb or his "Lamb."
Paul declares that women are to be silent in church, and that a woman with an uncovered head is a disgrace (similarly, a man with a covered head is a disgrace).
God is prophesied to bring many more deaths in Revelation. People who refuse to worship God after he tortures them get tortured some more.


God is an evil god.


(Also, when did "gangland" and radical Islam get brought into the discussion? Are you just trying to pull out random strawmen to divert attention from the actual issue of homosexuality being perfectly acceptable?)
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
If it isn't commanded of God, then it is sin.
I take it Christians don't eat shrimp. God hates shrimp! Ridiculous.

Levitiucs 11
9 “‘Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams you may eat any that have fins and scales. 10 But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales—whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water—you are to regard as unclean.
 
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