JM2C
CHRISTIAN
You mean if I practice idolatry, the crucifix? NO!
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Why does my God allow children to die? Is he evil?
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JM2C
CHRISTIAN
Why are you avoiding my question about Matthew 24:36? Are you hiding something?
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I know what you are doing and I no longer feel the need to continue any conversations with you.I have added you to my ignore list.Im sorry but I'm not here to play any games.Go play with others.Goodbye........
Haha I bet 2000 years from now there'll be consp-theorists saying Elvis never existed either..
Probably. And there will be even weirder ones who will believe the accounts of him being seen alive after death to be reliable historical facts.
Ciao
- viole
JM2C
CHRISTIAN
Games? Do you think I'm here to play games with you? No! To correct you from your twisted theology.
A good example of human progress. From burning at the stake to adding to ignore lists.
Ciao
- viole
Shak34
Active Member
Shuttlecraft
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The camera can't lie! Elvis was spotted by google street view rocking in Torquay (England) 2 years ago, right Elv?
"Uh-huh"..
Shak34
Active Member
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Haha! I find you so humorous. You make me laugh.
Sure. For starters, racism is immoral, IMO. Today's society is less racist than the one you're holding up as superior.
We're not perfect today by any means, but at least we've progressed beyond the forced segregation that existed in the 50s.
Indeed. And your moral appetite craves the sort of TV of an era where women and minorities were only depicted as subservient if they were shown at all.
Have you ever seen Breakfast at Tiffany's? The casual racism of Mickey Rooney's character in that movie would never be accepted today. I see this as an improvement; do you?
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
As if Christianity didn't steal from paganism to begin with anyway.:biglaugh:
1robin
Christian/Baptist
When MLK presented his promissory note for equal rights it did not originate with hippies in the 60's. It came from the founding fathers who were 90% Christian. It was what they had wrote not Marx, Freud, or Darwin that he referred to. Evolution never created two equal things in history. Only with a transcendent standard that exceeds nature is man truly equal. The Christian founders grounded equality in God not secularism. It took a while to hash out but 300,000 mostly Christians died to provide that equality. BTW it was the southern democratic and for the time more secular party that fought against civil rights. The relatively more theological conservatives are who enacted the fathers guarantees not secular folks in general. Your point here is a little more involved but not ultimately correctly derived.
Try justifying equality without God.
My moral appetite craves documentary films. I watch no TV programs from any era.
Are you going to get totally obsessed in believing one factor which you do not understand and ignore the hundreds I have posted? Non-theists get tunnel vision far too often. Who cares if teen pregnancy, drug addiction, gang activity, gambling debts, violent crime, broken homes, etc... are all up it took a while for Christian principles allowed black men to use the same water fountain. Strange logic. How many slaves were on leave it to beaver exactly? How many were on the flying Nunn? What's worse "how much is that doggy in the window?" or "F%$#& the police"? Defending the indefensible is worse that acknowledging it.
I guess you have ignored the Amazonian rain forest and have zoned into the single racism tree which is ambiguous enough to do anything you want with it, I guess. This is micro-tunnel vision. I never heard the N-word in a single program until at least the 80's.
The belief that America is degenerating on a moral level is shared by both Republicans and Democrats. According to a new Gallup poll, 82 percent of Republicans and 78 percent of Democrats say that moral values in the U.S.A. are only fair or downright poor. 40 years ago, only 33 percent of Americans felt that way.
So what's happened? First, secular forces have destroyed any rendering of Judeo-Christian philosophy in the public school system. Many teachers are now ordered not to make value judgments on behavior and not to push any specific moral standards. Thus children receive little if any moral guidance in class
Keep in mind that 80% who believe we are getting more immoral is composed 100% of those that are the problem. When you get a huge proportion of people to condemn their own society then you can be sure that society is pretty far gone.
However that's all ok because blacks and whites are no longer in different lines and secular people take credit for it even if Christians promised it and Christians died to provide it.
Between 1960 and 1990, there was a 41% decline in marriage. Larry L. Bumpass, "What's Happening to the Family? Interactions Between Demographic and Institutional Change,"
Divorce is up 350%.in which children under 18 are involved. U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, and Statistical Abstract of the United States.
Since 1960 there has been over a 400% increase in illegitimate births. The Wall Street Journal,Monday, March 15, 1993 Quantifying America's Decline by William J. Bennett http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/usadecline.html
Between 1960 and 1990, the percentage of children living apart from their biological fathers more than doubled, from 17 percent to 36 percent. http://mensightmagazine.com/Articles/Popenoe/nofathers.htm
While in 1960 only 9 percent of all children lived in single-parent families (a figure that had changed little over the course of the 20th century), by 2003 the percentage had jumped to 27 percent.9The State of our unions 2004 marriage. http://marriage.rutgers.edu/publications/soou/textsoou2004.htm .
Between 1960 AND 2002, the number of unmarried couples in America couples who are sexual partners, not married to each other, and sharing a household [otherwise known as fornicators, living in sin] increased by over 1100 percent. ^9
Child abuse up 2,300%. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and Child Maltreatment: Reports from the States to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System.
Premarital sexual activity for girls increased over 500 percent; http://www.christianaction.org.za/media_egroups/uca_2003-04-30.htm
Births to unmarried girls from 15-19 years of age is up 500% U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, Historical Statistics of the United States http://www.angelfire.com/music2/fullcircle/
Since 1960 the percentage of babies born to unwed mothers (any age) has increased more than sixfold.9The State of our unions 2004 marriage. http://marriage.rutgers.edu/publications/soou/textsoou2004.htm .
1960 there were 2 known Sexually Transmitted Diseases (syphilis and gonorrhea); today there are more than 25. Family Research Council: The Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Epidemic: www.ccv.org/downloads/pdf/HPV-Epidemic.pdf
Gonorrhonea (a Sexually Transmitted Disease) went up over 200 percent; http://www.christianaction.org.za/media_egroups/uca_2003-04-30.htm
Ilegal drug usage is up 6,000% since 1960. The percent of youth who have used illegal drugs has gone from 5 to 75%. National Institute on Drug Abuse.
Less than 1% of all Americans had used illegal drugs before 1960. The Honorable Judge Robert Ulrich Chief Justice, Missouri Court Of Appeals, Western District; http://www.shalomjerusalem.com/heritage/heritage19.html
Between 1960 and the early 1980s.smoking among 8th-grade girls increased 50 percent over this period, and the percentage of black 8th- and 10th-graders who smoked doubled. U.S. Health and Human Srevices; http://mchb.hrsa.gov/mchirc/_pubs/chusa_99.pdf.
Suicides rose for all youth 15 24 from 5.2 deaths per 100,00 in 1960 to 13.2 in 1988. National Center For Health Statistics. Youth Suicide Prevention Programs
From 1960 to 1980 the suicide rate among teens has risen more than 200% (1 suicide every 17 minutes). National Center for Health Statistics. Quantifying America's Decline by William J. Bennett; http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/usadecline.html
From 1960 to 1990 violent crime rose 560%. F.B.I. Quantifying America's Decline by William J. Bennett http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/usadecline.html
Criminal Arrests of Teens from age 14-17 per 100,000 is up 150%. U.S. Department Bureau of the Census, Historical Statistics of the United States.
Revealing Statistics: America in Decline
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1robin
Christian/Baptist
How did we do that? The society where it was born would not even tolerate slightly differing versions of it's own faith.
JM2C
CHRISTIAN
Please explain.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
Ingledsva said:
What do you not understand about - AND?
Ti 2:13 Awaiting that blessed expectation, and manifestation of the Mighty God, and of our Savior Jesus Christos.
Here is the 1587 Geneva -
Looking for that blessed hope, and appearing of that glorie of that mightie God, and of our Sauiour Iesus Christ,
Note the comma.
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Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
Wrong - There is no "he saith" -
Heb 1:8 But to the Son, the Throne/power of thou, O God, for ever and ever: the Scepter of Rightness is the Scepter of thy reign.
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JM2C
CHRISTIAN
Both nouns are connected by one article as referring to one person, I.E., The Lord Jesus Christ, and if you read verse 14 it refers to The Lord Jesus Christ alone as the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ who gave Himself for us.
Please read and understand even from your own translation.