Why doesn't God stop evil?

[Muslim-UK]

So then God can stop evil while maintaining free will. Do you agree?

If He did that, it would mean no Satan, no Jinn, no Angels, thus no countless other Creations that have existed over the Billions of years in this Single Universe. Some say, this is ONE of Trillions of other Universes.

Only in Heaven will we be purified removing any negative inclinations, thus have free will to do as we desire, without evil desires.

 

[Etritonakin]

no God obviously changed. after fully reading the OT than the NT. God seems different. more hippie. less smite everything that moves

Nope. We can be the same and act differently at different times in different situations -why not God?

There is also plenty of smiting prophesied in the New Testament and plenty of happy happy joy joy stuff prophesied in the Old Testament.

 

[Etritonakin]

Now that is a whole lot of double speak

Not at all. Different things have to be done at different times.

 

[Faithofchristian]

God did go about to do a way with evil, but mankind Rebellion against God and are still in Rebellion against God.

For every evil that is in the world is in Rebellion against God.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If He did that, it would mean no Satan, no Jinn, no Angels, thus no countless other Creations that have existed over the Billions of years in this Single Universe. Some say, this is ONE of Trillions of other Universes.

So God wants Satan and Jinn?

Only in Heaven will we be purified removing any negative inclinations, thus have free will to do as we desire, without evil desires.

So God can "purify" beings with free will so that they don't commit evil but maintain their free will?

Why didn't he do that in the first place? Why did God introduce evil into the world?

 

[Muslim-UK]

So God wants Satan and Jinn?

Yes the Jinn race were created and given free will like us.

So God can "purify" beings with free will so that they don't commit evil but maintain their free will?

Yes absolutely.

Why didn't he do that in the first place? Why did God introduce evil into the world?

If He did that, then we would all be in Heaven with no life to live, no test.

Remember as believers, we accept GOD chooses to do things as He pleases. We are His Creation, and this is how it unfolds for us. Life is a test of faith and being patient, striving to be the best person you can, helping your fellow man, giving in charity, sharing your blessings for the sake of GOD.

It would be like asking a video game creator, why why do we have to work our way through levels, minuscule power-ups, armour upgrades, weapons upgrades etc, endless hours of working through endless levels, when they could have just let us finish the game with max powers allowing us to collect the ultimate treasure or rescue the damsel in distress.

Their creation, their rules.

 

[TheMusicTheory]

To be frank, the Abrahamic god doesn't hypothetically stop evil because the Abrahamic god *is* evil, as a concept:

A god creates a race of beings with no knowledge of good and evil.
Said god allows them to be tempted to eat from a tree that will *give* them knowledge of good and evil.
Same god punishes them for committing an "evil" that they didn't even realize WAS evil until they had knowledge of it.

Not to mention this god knew from the start exactly what they would do but punished them for it anyway.

Recap: A god creates imperfect beings he knows will break his rules. He then tempts them to break those rules, and then acts angry and surprised when those rules are broken and punishes them for it.

The Abrahamic god is a sociopath that fully intended evil to exist because he knew the outcome of his plan before he even set it into motion. If he didn't, he's not omniscient, if he did, he's evil himself.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Why doesn't God stop evil.

Because people would only Rebelle against God, has they have always haved done.

If God tried to force people to live a certain way, how long would it be, Before people would Rebelle against God.

So God let's everyone come to him out of love for him and those who reject God, are out cast's. That have No place with those who are with God.

God does not permit evil, it's people who actually permit's evil.

You will find other kinds of people, who will say, Why does God permit this or that, When actually they are the ones that are doing nothing to stop the evil, but permitting evil themselves. Go Figure

 

[scott777]

God does not permit evil, it's people who actually permit's evil.

But God does permit life, and is supposedly all-knowing, so he knows exactly who is going to do evil. Therefore he DOES permit evil.

 

[Muslim-UK]

Why doesn't God stop evil.

Because people would only Rebelle against God, has they have always haved done.

If God tried to force people to live a certain way, how long would it be, Before people would Rebelle against God.

So God let's everyone come to him out of love for him and those who reject God, are out cast's. That have No place with those who are with God.

God does not permit evil, it's people who actually permit's evil.

You will find other kinds of people, who will say, Why does God permit this or that, When actually they are the ones that are doing nothing to stop the evil, but permitting evil themselves. Go Figure

Does believing sincerely in the Death and Resurrection of Jesus pbuh overcome the problem of 'Evil'?

 

[Faithofchristian]

But God does permit life, and is supposedly all-knowing, so he knows exactly who is going to do evil. Therefore he DOES permit evil.

As to who told you that, That God is all knowing, Who exactly told you that.

There are times that God chooses not to know things before things happens.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Does believing sincerely in the Death and Resurrection of Jesus pbuh overcome the problem of 'Evil'?

Not necessarily, It all depends on whether a person believe's in Christ Jesus or not.

There are people who do not believe in God.
Therefore the evil in which they do, is still upon them. If they do not change their ways, The lake which burns with fire is their fate.

 

[scott777]

As to who told you that, That God is all knowing, Who exactly told you that.

Just about everyone. That seems to be one of the most commonly stated attributes.

Wikipedia says: “The concept of God, as described by theologians, commonly includes the attributes of omniscience (all-knowing)..”

So Wiki agrees that it’s common.

And then there’s Psalm 147:4-5. “Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit.”

 

[Faithofchristian]

Just about everyone. That seems to be one of the most commonly stated attributes.

Wikipedia says: “The concept of God, as described by theologians, commonly includes the attributes of omniscience (all-knowing)..”

So Wiki agrees that it’s common.

And then there’s Psalm 147:4-5. “Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit.”

Have you any idea what it means, his understanding has no limit ?

That doesn't mean God is all knowing.
That just means God's understanding about things has no limit.

 

[Muslim-UK]

Have you any idea what it means, his understanding has no limit ?

That doesn't mean God is all knowing.
That just means God's understanding about things has no limit.

Wait, so are you saying Christians believe GOD is not ALL knowing?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Wait, so are you saying Christians believe GOD is not ALL knowing?

Not all Christians thinks this way, that is because their knowledge in the Holy Scriptures are limited.

And there are Christians like myself, that knows, there are times that God chooses not to know things before they happen.
The proof to this is in the Holy Scriptures.

 

[Muslim-UK]

And there are Christians like myself, that knows, there are times that God chooses not to know things before they happen. The proof to this is in the Holy Scriptures.

Can you give an example of when God would choose not to know something before it happens?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Can you give an example of when God would choose not to know something before it happens?

That all depend on how well you believe in the bible, scriptures.

God said in the book of Ezekiel 28:15--"You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, till iniquity was found in you"

Notice the word ( Till ) this means that God did not know beforehand, Till lawlessness was found in Satan.
Iniquity means = lawlessness.

 

[scott777]

Have you any idea what it means, his understanding has no limit ?

That doesn't mean God is all knowing.
That just means God's understanding about things has no limit.

Interesting logic. Let's see if I can follow it.

God's understanding has no limit.
Then he must understand everything.
But in order to understand a thing, he must first know it.
Therefore he must know everything.

Did I miss anything?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Interesting logic. Let's see if I can follow it.

God's understanding has no limit.
Then he must understand everything.
But in order to understand a thing, he must first know it.
Therefore he must know everything.

Did I miss anything?

But that doesn't mean he has to know everything before it happens.
God can choose not to know before things happens.
Would you agree that free will came from God.
Then that means that God also has free will. To choose or not to choose before things happens.
Why is it that people wants to limit God's free will to choose or not to choose.

Because it doesn't fit into what you been taught by man's teachings, is that it.

There is No where in the Bible that says that God has to know everything before it happens.
But there is places in the bible that shows, that God didn't know before things happened.

God didn't know that Sodom and Gomorrah was going to do what they were doing, until God heard their cry's and came down here himself to see for himself.

God didn't know beforehand that man was wicked, till God saw the wickedness of man.

God didn't know Satan was Lawlessness, till Lawlessness was found in Satan.

God didn't know beforehand that Adam and Eve would take of the tree, till Eve and Adam took of the tree.

God didn't know that king Saul was going to be a wicked king, otherwise why would make Saul the king over Israel. If God knew beforehand that king Saul was going to be a wicked king.

Therefore there are many instances where God did not know beforehand on things. Till they happened.
Maybe it's because God chosen by His
(free will) not to know beforehand about things.

Maybe God wants to see what people will do, without knowing beforehand, what they will do.

Stop and think about it, If you knew everything that people were going to do, before they did anything, Wouldn't you like, Let's say,The element of surprise of not knowing beforehand. What people would do. Just to see what they are going to do, without knowing first what they are going to do.
Oh Surprise, Surprise.Why I didn't know you were going to do that. If I had known what you were going to do, I would not haved created you


Why would God create mankind in the first Place, If God knew already that mankind was going to be Wicked, Evil, if you knew something was going to be wicked against you, would you create them knowingly that they are going to go against you ? Go Figure