Why doesn't the Bible condemn cannibalism?

[sojourner]

Kosher laws are silly and not literal.

Thanks for dissing Judaism.

 

[Unification]

Hey, you dissed 'em -- not me, buddy.

'em' ...now referring to people? Thought it was Judaism in your opinion? Pretty clear it was the interpretation of the kosher laws as literal and silly. I'm not sure where you saw anything about dissing Judaism or people. Lower minded intent.

 

[Harmonious]

Not according to your


'em' ...now referring to people? Thought it was Judaism in your opinion? Pretty clear it was the interpretation of the kosher laws as literal and silly. I'm not sure where you saw anything about dissing Judaism or people. Lower minded intent.

You were insulting the Jews who KEEP Kosher, and pretty much insulting the things we do as ridiculous and insignificant.

"Lower minded intent," indeed. I've got no more use for you.

 

[Unification]

You were insulting the Jews who KEEP Kosher, and pretty much insulting the things we do as ridiculous and insignificant.

"Lower minded intent," indeed. I've got no more use for you.

You have said so.

 

[sojourner]

'em' ...now referring to people? Thought it was Judaism in your opinion? Pretty clear it was the interpretation of the kosher laws as literal and silly. I'm not sure where you saw anything about dissing Judaism or people. Lower minded intent.

Religions are people. Now that's a higher-minded concept for ya!

 

[Maranatha]

The Bible doesn't comdemn standing outside your neighbours house at 2am playing "Agadoo" (by Black Lace) at max volume, while dancing around in a chicken suite, either.

I guess it's commands aren't exhaustive and some things (perhaps such as the moral questionability of eating other humans) are left to the personal moral compass.

 

[Unification]

Religions are people. Now that's a higher-minded concept for ya!

Religions are religions. Religions are composed of doctrine, imaginations, mental concepts and false perception and images of God, and oppression of people, fear, and divide. If one is content living their lives with lies, man rules, divide, and suffering, so be it. . that will always be truth to the animal lower mind.

People are people. People are composed of what all has in common. People are what matter. Truth is objective. God is one. If one genuinely and purely wants to experience truth, love, peace, oneness.. And live an abundantly pure, peaceful, and loving life.. They would seek truth and God properly and not their own understanding.

If bias for truth offends anyone and it's tough to swallow, so be it. No one says it's easy. Pride, ego, reputation, animal minds will always want to live on to the point one devours another human being in the name of these doctrines, imaginations, mental concepts and false perception of God, oppression of others, fear, divide... And attribute it all to God and view it as personal attacks, something all of scripture says needs defeated.

 

[Unification]

Religions are people. Now that's a higher-minded concept for ya!

So are the local bar attendees as a universal organism of believers and gatherers worldwide in the consumption of alcohol.

Where is the line drawn for truth?

If there are 200,000 different religions/denominations... Does that make them all true and objective?

Truth: that in accord with reality, "that which is."

 

[Wharton]

Oh...you mean the last supper.It never mentions Eucharist or Transubstantiation in the holy scriptures.

Wow. A bible student that doesn't know that the Passover is the Jewish communal todah or in the Greek, Eucharist. Or in English, thanksgiving.

Jesus was leading a private todah/eucharist/thanksgiving at the Last Supper. It wasn't a Passover todah.

Look in your OT, the todah/eucharist/thanksgiving sacrifice is there.

 

[sojourner]

Religions are religions. Religions are composed of doctrine, imaginations, mental concepts and false perception and images of God, and oppression of people, fear, and divide. If one is content living their lives with lies, man rules, divide, and suffering, so be it. . that will always be truth to the animal lower mind.

Judaism is comprised of the children of God. Xy is comprised of a community of people who are the Body of Christ. And, since they are comprised of people, they will exhibit people-type characteristics. If you have some unrealistic expectations of religion that causes you to be bitter about them, that's your problem, but it doesn't make the rest of us of some "lower mind."

Truth is objective.

Facts are objective; truth is rather subjective.

They would seek truth and God properly and not their own understanding.

Yet, since (according to the Xian understanding) God became Incarnate and thus manifested God's Self through humanity -- and through the understanding of humanity. Those who seek God (from a Xian POV) must seek God through self-giving to others.

If bias for truth offends anyone and it's tough to swallow, so be it.

People have been making excuses for poor social behavior based on "the Quest for Truth" for a long time; you're not the first.

 

[sojourner]

Where is the line drawn for truth?

Within the individual or community.

If there are 200,000 different religions/denominations... Does that make them all true and objective?

No, that makes them all true and subjective. We all have part of a much larger truth.

Truth: that in accord with reality, "that which is."

Truth: that in accord with the way in which reality is perceived and processed by individuals or communities.

 

[Unification]

Religions are people. Now that's a higher-minded concept for ya!

Within the individual or community.

No, that makes them all true and subjective. We all have part of a much larger truth.

Truth: that in accord with the way in which reality is perceived and processed by individuals or communities.

Essentially, all lies are truth then, as long as to the individual or community, which are created in the "minds" and one should not seek this "much larger truth" and the exegesis of the scriptures and God state that what one wants to believe, it is truth and that there are endless interpretations, when it applies to God. There would be no such existence for lies, and God could be defined as a lie as well using these concepts.

Elaborate on the "much larger truth." Is this not what has been repeatedly stated and what one should seek?

 

[Unification]

Judaism is comprised of the children of God. Xy is comprised of a community of people who are the Body of Christ. And, since they are comprised of people, they will exhibit people-type characteristics. If you have some unrealistic expectations of religion that causes you to be bitter about them, that's your problem, but it doesn't make the rest of us of some "lower mind."

Facts are objective; truth is rather subjective.

Yet, since (according to the Xian understanding) God became Incarnate and thus manifested God's Self through humanity -- and through the understanding of humanity. Those who seek God (from a Xian POV) must seek God through self-giving to others.

People have been making excuses for poor social behavior based on "the Quest for Truth" for a long time; you're not the first.

Now you're stating that lies are not the problem for poor social behavior, truth is.

More as people have been making excuses for poor social behavior based on everything you've just stated because one chooses to be a man pleaser over doing the will of God. The attitude that it's "all okay."

As you've stated not long ago, it's okay to murder enemies and have enemies, an excuse and defining God and being persuasive to others. Some words are more powerful and beautiful when they are simply not said. If one doesn't know, it's better to say nothing at all and have the higher conscious to admit and self realize this than to not knowing and to lie, especially attritubuting lies to God. Recall you also saying that literal land may be holy to God, which would justify and make the excuse for the wars in the Middle East. . Justifying lies and murder of one's enemies from "truth and people like characteristics" to the individual or religion.

Don't twist people like characteristics for all behavior being good as long as it's truth to the individual. Anyone should love the heritage Jew, to the heritage Muslim, to the heritage Korean, to the American, to any race, nationality, color, poor/rich, large/small, etc. alike. Again, God is no respector of persons and is equal. Doesn't mean God loves their vain religion. He loves them and wants them to see "the bigger picture" which is objective truth, spiritually and physically.

No bitterness, your words. No need for any kind of internal transformation, truth, or God then, since all is truth and people like characteristics are all fine, both good and evil.

Yet all of these people like characteristics you state are truth to one, and are the ones that precisely need to be defeated by the help of God to the individual... Or rather not?

 

[sojourner]

Essentially, all lies are truth then, as long as to the individual or community, which are created in the "minds" and one should not seek this "much larger truth" and the exegesis of the scriptures and God state that what one wants to believe, it is truth and that there are endless interpretations, when it applies to God. There would be no such existence for lies, and God could be defined as a lie as well using these concepts.

Elaborate on the "much larger truth." Is this not what has been repeatedly stated and what one should seek?

This doesn't even make sense. Of course one should seek greater truth. But one should realize that that greater truth will always be 1) partial and 2) subjective.

 

[sojourner]

Now you're stating that lies are not the problem for poor social behavior, truth is.

You really need to stop putting words in my mouth. I stated no such thing. What I said was that, since religions are human institutions, we should expect them to behave exactly as humans behave.

More as people have been making excuses for poor social behavior based on everything you've just stated because one chooses to be a man pleaser over doing the will of God. The attitude that it's "all okay."

I didn't say that, either. Of course, not all behavior is OK; it is only expected, based upon clear definitions.

As you've stated not long ago, it's okay to murder enemies and have enemies, an excuse and defining God and being persuasive to others.

No, I didn't. I stated that "murder" is a legal term, and that since the government usually makes the laws, the government is usually exempt from murder in its acts of killing. (IOW, killing one's enemies in war isn't "murder.")

Recall you also saying that literal land may be holy to God, which would justify and make the excuse for the wars in the Middle East. .

Nope. Wasn't me.

Don't twist people like characteristics for all behavior being good as long as it's truth to the individual.

I never said such a thing.

No need for any kind of internal transformation, truth, or God then, since all is truth and people like characteristics are all fine, both good and evil.

Blatant hyperbole, and a misrepresentation of what I said.


Care to misrepresent anything else I've stated? For one who tries to sell himself as "enlightened," you're disturbingly either 1) ignorant of facts, or 2) willfully misrepresentative of others. I'm not aware of any enlightened individual being or doing either of those things.

 

[Nada]

Wow. A bible student that doesn't know that the Passover is the Jewish communal todah or in the Greek, Eucharist. Or in English, thanksgiving.

Jesus was leading a private todah/eucharist/thanksgiving at the Last Supper. It wasn't a Passover todah.

Look in your OT, the todah/eucharist/thanksgiving sacrifice is there.

The Passover was established between God and the Jews who were slaves in Egypt.They were to slaughter a 1 year old male lamb or goat,gut it,and roast it whole.It was to be eaten with bitter greens so they would remember the bitter times they had in Egypt.This was the covenant God made with His people.Moses led Gods people in the Exodus and was their Messiah.Their Christ.
(I will explain in detail in another comment later)

Anyway.... much later.Jesus, a Jew, followed the customs.He participated in the Passover with his disciples on Nisan 14th 33C.E.After this he dismissed Judas Iscariot, and then established the new covenant,the last supper, with the remaining 11. This ritual is not called the Eucharist.This is a false claim.The Greek word eukhariste΄sas means to give thanks.To be grateful,show gratitude.This is what Jesus did after he passed the emblems.The ritual itself is not called The Eucharist.Many are mislead by those who use their own understanding and reasoning.Thats what I meant when I said the Word The Eucharist does not exist in the holy scriptures.This is just a group taking a word and running with it to mean what they want.It was called the last supper.The new covenant.Not the Eucharist.It is not The Thanksgiving.Thanksgiving, or prayer, is done after every meal.This sanctifies the emblems.

1 Timothy 4:3,4. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

Everything that is taught about this by the RCC does not match with what the holy scriptures says.So the last supper was established, and it was consecrated by the word of God and prayer.So if we go with what you are you are saying, The Eucharist was then consecrated with The Eucharist.The Thanksgiving with the Thanksgiving.That makes no sense at all.If we read and study thoroughly it is easy to see the truth.

The fact of the matter is that Jesus was just giving thanks after passing the emblems.

Englishman's Concordance
εὐχαριστήσας (eucharistēsas) — 9 Occurrences
Matthew 15:36 V-APA-NMS
GRK: ἰχθύας καὶ εὐχαριστήσας ἔκλασεν καὶ
NAS: and the fish; and giving thanks, He broke
KJV: the fishes, and gave thanks, and brake
INT: fish and having given thanks he broke and

Matthew 26:27 V-APA-NMS
GRK: ποτήριον καὶ εὐχαριστήσας ἔδωκεν αὐτοῖς
NAS: and given thanks, He gave
KJV: and gave thanks, and gave
INT: a cup and having given thanks he gave [it] to them

Mark 8:6 V-APA-NMS
GRK: ἑπτὰ ἄρτους εὐχαριστήσας ἔκλασεν καὶ
NAS: loaves, He gave thanks and broke
KJV: loaves, and gave thanks, and brake,
INT: seven loaves having given thanks he broke and

Mark 14:23 V-APA-NMS
GRK: λαβὼν ποτήριον εὐχαριστήσας ἔδωκεν αὐτοῖς
NAS: a cup [and] given thanks, He gave
KJV: the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave
INT: having taken the cup having given thanks he gave to them

Luke 22:17 V-APA-NMS
GRK: δεξάμενος ποτήριον εὐχαριστήσας εἶπεν Λάβετε
NAS: a cup [and] given thanks, He said,
KJV: the cup, and gave thanks, and said,
INT: having received a cup having given thanks he said Take

Luke 22:19 V-APA-NMS
GRK: λαβὼν ἄρτον εὐχαριστήσας ἔκλασεν καὶ
NAS: [some] bread [and] given thanks, He broke
KJV: bread, and gave thanks, and brake
INT: having taken bread having given thanks he broke and

John 6:11 V-APA-NMS
GRK: Ἰησοῦς καὶ εὐχαριστήσας διέδωκεν τοῖς
NAS: the loaves, and having given thanks, He distributed
KJV: and when he had given thanks, he distributed
INT: Jesus and having given thanks distributed to the


Luke and Paul speak of this same thing too.


Acts 28:15 V-APA-NMS
GRK: ὁ Παῦλος εὐχαριστήσας τῷ θεῷ
NAS: saw them, he thanked God
KJV: saw, he thanked God,
INT: Paul having given thanks to God

1 Corinthians 11:24 V-APA-NMS
GRK: καὶ εὐχαριστήσας ἔκλασεν καὶ
NAS: and when He had given thanks, He broke
KJV: And when he had given thanks, he brake
INT: and having given thanks he broke [it] and

It is prayer,being thankful,showing gratitude.Nothing more.Jesus never established a ritual called The Eucharist.This is man made traditional thinking that is unbiblical.


Acts 28:15 The brothers and sisters there had heard that we were coming, and they traveled as far as the Forum of Appius and the Three Taverns to meet us. At the sight of these people Paul thanked God and was encouraged.

Westcott and Hort 1881κἀκεῖθεν οἱ ἀδελφοὶ ἀκούσαντες τὰ περὶ ἡμῶν ἦλθαν εἰς ἀπάντησιν ἡμῖν ἄχρι Ἀππίου Φόρου καὶ Τριῶν Ταβερνῶν, οὓς ἰδὼν ὁ Παῦλος εὐχαριστήσας τῷ θεῷ ἔλαβε θάρσος.

So "The Eucharist" was not being set up here or done.It was merely a prayer.Thanksgiving.Gratitude.There was no passing of bread or wine.

2168 [e] eucharistēsas εὐχαριστήσας having given thanks V-APA-NMS




1 Timothy 4 - The Spirit clearly says that in later - Bible Gateway

Greek Concordance: εὐχαριστήσας (eucharistēsas) -- 9 Occurrences

Acts 28:15 Greek Text Analysis

 

[Unification]

This doesn't even make sense. Of course one should seek greater truth. But one should realize that that greater truth will always be 1) partial and 2) subjective.

Greater truth realizes that a human is a human and what we all share is not partial or subjective.

 

[Salek Atesh]

Kosher laws are silly and not literal.

Gods truth and meaning is not what you eat, it's what you think.

The pig (pork) is metaphorical for the lower mind because it loves to roll in the mud.

Not eating pork is a symbol of not consuming the lower flesh which is the carnal mind of emotions and feelings.

God is saying to seek the higher mind (conscious),spiritual things and not the things of the world. The things of the world and lies defile a humans' mind, making them unclean and spiritually dead.

Be still and quiet of mind and allow the flood to come and destroy this evil and lies.

But you forget: One Scripture can have many valid meanings, if you want to get down to the esoteric truth of it all.

But, regardless of existing interpretations, the OP remains false due to the existence of kosher rules, however you wish to interpret them.

 

[Unification]

You really need to stop putting words in my mouth. I stated no such thing. What I said was that, since religions are human institutions, we should expect them to behave exactly as humans behave.

I didn't say that, either. Of course, not all behavior is OK; it is only expected, based upon clear definitions.

No, I didn't. I stated that "murder" is a legal term, and that since the government usually makes the laws, the government is usually exempt from murder in its acts of killing. (IOW, killing one's enemies in war isn't "murder.")

Nope. Wasn't me.

I never said such a thing.

Blatant hyperbole, and a misrepresentation of what I said.


Care to misrepresent anything else I've stated? For one who tries to sell himself as "enlightened," you're disturbingly either 1) ignorant of facts, or 2) willfully misrepresentative of others. I'm not aware of any enlightened individual being or doing either of those things.

Perhaps one should know themselves internally a little better, and their agenda and intent and realize the effects of such statements and the feeding into the system indirectly without even beings aware of it.

 

[sojourner]

Greater truth realizes that a human is a human and what we all share is not partial or subjective.

1) "Greater truth" has no consciousness of its own, so doesn't "realize" anything.
2) I believe I already pointed out that human beings are human beings.
3) By definition, what we share is partial, for God is greater than the sum of our parts.