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Why Don’t You Believe Jesus Rose From The Grave?

ppp

Well-Known Member
I wasn’t aware of the tens of thousands of stories about Jesus
One for each sect of Christianity. Plus the weird offshoots of Christianity. Plus the Baha'i and all of the cults that try to coopt Christianity. Plus the offshoots of those.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
One for each sect of Christianity. Plus the weird offshoots of Christianity. Plus the Baha'i and all of the cults that try to coopt Christianity. Plus the offshoots of those.
…but are they all sure their story of Jesus is about a man who lived 2000 years ago?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
…but are they all sure their story of Jesus is about a man who lived 2000 years ago?
Of course they are all sure. That's the flaw of religious ideology, they are sure regardless of the implausibility of the stories. None of them are based on facts, or reality. That doesn't matter to the believer.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Of course they are all sure. That's the flaw of religious ideology, they are sure regardless of the implausibility of the stories. None of them are based on facts, or reality. That doesn't matter to the believer.
What about based on our time?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Hah! Speak for yourself.
I am speaking for what the Bible says, which is....
There are two kinds of bodies, physical bodies and spiritual bodies.

1 Corinthians 15
New Living Translation

40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies.
42 It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. 43 Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. 44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

There is no glorified body that is both physical and spiritual, as some Christians believe.
The glorified body is just a made up Christian doctrine.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
What about based on our time?
Their time, our time, truth is what it is regardless of time. Today we have the advantage of being well educated and having cognitive tools like critical thinking. We can better assess what is true and what isn't. Religious interpretations and beliefs about the basic Jesus Christ myth have no basis in fact or reality. No religion is built on fact and reason. Thesy are built on stories written long ago without any concern for truth and reality. THose who have adopted any of the many traditions of belief don't care whether the ideas are factual, they just feel the satisfaction of belonging to a tribe that has beliefs. It's how the human brain evolved.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Their time, our time, truth is what it is regardless of time. Today we have the advantage of being well educated and having cognitive tools like critical thinking. We can better assess what is true and what isn't. Religious interpretations and beliefs about the basic Jesus Christ myth have no basis in fact or reality. No religion is built on fact and reason. Thesy are built on stories written long ago without any concern for truth and reality. THose who have adopted any of the many traditions of belief don't care whether the ideas are factual, they just feel the satisfaction of belonging to a tribe that has beliefs. It's how the human brain evolved.
Not my brain. I know God created everything around 1979. And he will again and again and again and again………. Life is a trip!!! What a great blessing!!!
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Your brain might have unique problems. No rational mind would agree with your beliefs.
I wouldn’t want them to. Neither would the lord. Haha that’s the great funny part. God didn’t reveal to the world who I am for obvious safety reasons. He doesn’t even mind that I tell people who I am because he knows nobody will believe it. It’s perfection. I get a kick out of it actually.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I am speaking for what the Bible says, which is....
There are two kinds of bodies, physical bodies and spiritual bodies.

1 Corinthians 15
New Living Translation

40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies.
42 It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. 43 Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. 44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

There is no glorified body that is both physical and spiritual, as some Christians believe.
The glorified body is just a made up Christian doctrine.
Well to be honest my glorified body is long gone:coldsweat:
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I wouldn’t want them to. Neither would the lord. Haha that’s the great funny part. God didn’t reveal to the world who I am for obvious safety reasons. He doesn’t even mind that I tell people who I am because he knows nobody will believe it. It’s perfection. I get a kick out of it actually.
Perhaps this is why you have such a belief, even against a mountain of evidence that you are wrong.
 

Sumadji

Active Member
44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

There is no glorified body that is both physical and spiritual, as some Christians believe.
The glorified body is just a made up Christian doctrine.
Angels have taken form, according to scripture, and have eaten and fought with mortals and other physical acts. How do you know that the risen Christ was not able to "weave" and manifest a physical body, as master of flesh and master of nature?
 

Sumadji

Active Member
@Trailblazer
There is a difference between the unique resurrection of the Christ after three days, and the general resurrection of the dead on the last day, according to Christian beliefs.

There are immortality yogas around mastery of nature and the enlightened yogi being able to generate and maintain a ever youthful physical body, or many bodies in different places at the same time.

The idea is a part of Eastern thought.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Angels have taken form, according to scripture, and have eaten and fought with mortals and other physical acts. How do you know that the risen Christ was not able to "weave" and manifest a physical body, as master of flesh and master of nature?
I don't know that the risen Christ was not able to "weave" and manifest a physical body, and in fact, I have often suggested that as a possibility.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
@Trailblazer
There is a difference between the unique resurrection of the Christ after three days, and the general resurrection of the dead on the last day, according to Christian beliefs.
Yes, I know that is according to Christian beliefs, although I do not share the belief in a resurrection of any physical bodies from the dead.

 

BrokenBread

Member

Why Don’t You Believe Jesus Rose From The Grave?​

Because with so many claims of rising from the dead existing both before and after Jesus demonstrating it is a sure fire method to gain world wide historical fame & fortune , it is easy to see the real motivation for making the claim.
 
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