Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid?

[Watchmen]

Oh, now I understand the hostility of Katzpur. Sorry kid, I didn't know you were eves dropping. Stay with prophet joe, you are better off than to learn some truth, it may hurt your pride. Oh I just remembered, didn't you church put out a book called the 4th wise man, whom by giving a diamond to a roman soldier prevented him from to killing baby Jesus?

Never heard of such a book.

 

[bluZero]

I have no idea. What was it called?

Oh crimminy, it was way back in the 70's as I was passing through Salt lake, I was giving a 3-6 page small booklet with the story, nicely written, but I did not believe in it. So I think I passed it on to someone else. AS A MATTER OF FACT IT WAS AROUND XMASS TIME. Do you think you were being set against to make the church look bad.

 

[Watchmen]

Oh crimminy, it was way back in the 70's as I was passing through Salt lake, I was giving a 3-6 page small booklet with the story, nicely written, but I did not believe in it. So I think I passed it on to someone else. AS A MATTER OF FACT IT WAS AROUND XMASS TIME. Do you think you were being set against to make the church look bad.

I'm gonna call ******** on this one.

 

[Sola'lor]

Ok blu we have a thread in the one on one debate. Sorry I misspelled your name in the title.

 

[bluZero]

Ok blu we have a thread in the one on one debate. Sorry I misspelled your name in the title.

You mean about going one on one on the book of Mormon? Like I told Sola, I have not idea what Mormonism is about accept what katz said on the one on one site. I see the doctrine to christ might be alike, but the idea of having an extra-biblical book exempts you from having any form of discussion with me. I stand by Rev 22. I feel for LDS, but I cannot reach them. I made my personal feeling know about the false prophet joseph smith, and that goes for all the false prophets of the day. But TY anyway! I saw my neighbor yesterday have a grand old time.:grill:

 

[Katzpur]

Do you think you were being set against to make the church look bad.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Katzpur]

You mean about going one on one on the book of Mormon? Like I told Sola, I have not idea what Mormonism is about accept what katz said on the one on one site. I see the doctrine to christ might be alike, but the idea of having an extra-biblical book exempts you from having any form of discussion with me. I stand by Rev 22. I feel for LDS, but I cannot reach them. I made my personal feeling know about the false prophet joseph smith, and that goes for all the false prophets of the day. But TY anyway! I saw my neighbor yesterday have a grand old time.:grill:

I see. You have no idea what Mormonism is all about. You just know it's false. You know next to nothing about Joseph Smith, but you know he's a false prophet. Are all of your opinions formed with so little information?

 

[Sola'lor]

You mean about going one on one on the book of Mormon? Like I told Sola, I have not idea what Mormonism is about accept what katz said on the one on one site. I see the doctrine to christ might be alike, but the idea of having an extra-biblical book exempts you from having any form of discussion with me. I stand by Rev 22. I feel for LDS, but I cannot reach them. I made my personal feeling know about the false prophet joseph smith, and that goes for all the false prophets of the day. But TY anyway! I saw my neighbor yesterday have a grand old time.:grill:

I am sola'lor.

I still don't understand how you can judge Joseph Smith to be a false prophet. You don't know anything about him. You don't even know what the Book of Mormon is. How do you know it isn't of God if you haven't read it.

Amos 3:7
7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

THis vrse syays the God will not do anything but speaking to prophets. This seems to support the idea that there will continue to be prophets in this day.

 

[Katzpur]

I am sola'lor.

I still don't understand how you can judge Joseph Smith to be a false prophet. You don't know anything about him. You don't even know what the Book of Mormon is. How do you know it isn't of God if you haven't read it.

It's because on the day the Bible fell out of the sky, revelation was the last book in it, and it specifically states that God has nothing more to say to humanity -- ever.

 

[Sola'lor]

It's because on the day the Bible fell out of the sky, revelation was the last book in it, and it specifically states that God has nothing more to say to humanity -- ever.

Hmm. I must have missed that part. Where do I read about this? It would conclusivly prove that the Book of Mormon does not contain the Word of God.

 

[Watchmen]

You mean about going one on one on the book of Mormon? Like I told Sola, I have not idea what Mormonism is about accept what katz said on the one on one site. I see the doctrine to christ might be alike, but the idea of having an extra-biblical book exempts you from having any form of discussion with me. I stand by Rev 22. I feel for LDS, but I cannot reach them. I made my personal feeling know about the false prophet joseph smith, and that goes for all the false prophets of the day. But TY anyway! I saw my neighbor yesterday have a grand old time.:grill:

Rev wasn't even the last book written in the Bible.

 

[bluZero]

Rev wasn't even the last book written in the Bible.

PrAy tell then, what was the last book written!

 

[Katzpur]

PrAy tell then, what was the last book written!

Well, John wrote his own gospel account after he wrote Revelation. That's one, and there may be others. By the way, why did your Church remove some of the books from the Bible that had been there for several hundred years? Didn't Revelation warn against that, too?

 

[bluZero]

I see. You have no idea what Mormonism is all about. You just know it's false. You know next to nothing about Joseph Smith, but you know he's a false prophet. Are all of your opinions formed with so little information?

Sorry:sorry1: katsz, but I do not need to know anything about a man that says an angel helped him find a book that was written by early Americans. All I know is what the law book of God says, Revelation 22: 18-19 I would rather put my trust in God than in what a man tells me, do you know what god says when man puts his trust in man? Then there is the book of Thomas and the book of enoch, and so on and so on. God drew the line at his 66 books because they are a cohesive whole commenting on each other in historical-grammatical, moral teaching, and comparing spiritual things with spiritual things. No offense to you as a human being and neighbor, just that I do not agree with the teachings of anyone that has an extra-biblical book to base their beliefs on.:sorry1:

 

[bluZero]

Well, John wrote his own gospel account after he wrote Revelation. That's one, and there may be others. By the way, why did your Church remove some of the books from the Bible that had been there for several hundred years? Didn't Revelation warn against that, too?

I do not go to church anymore due to the fact of the apostasy going on in the churches today. I do think that the Catholic bible account has 6 or 7 books that were put into the bible of God, but they do not fit in with the, shall we say, commentary. Each and every book in the bible, KJV, complements, and or comments on each and every other book like a puzzle. and there are no parts missing or left over, so that is how we base the bible on being accurate and true.
But it takes enormous study time to see that.:coffee2:

I do not think so because of the warning of the last book in Rev 22: 18-19. if it was not the last book John would have ended it another way, It was the last warning in the last part of the book that completed the entire bible.:yes:

 

[Katzpur]

Sorry:sorry1: katsz, but I do not need to know anything about a man that says an angel helped him find a book that was written by early Americans.

Explain to me, please, how that is any more difficult to believe than that a virgin bore God's Son? Or do you just believe that with God, some things actually are impossible?

All I know is what the law book of God says, Revelation 22: 18-19 I would rather put my trust in God than in what a man tells me, do you know what god says when man puts his trust in man? Then there is the book of Thomas and the book of enoch, and so on and so on. God drew the line at his 66 books because they are a cohesive whole commenting on each other in historical-grammatical, moral teaching, and comparing spiritual things with spiritual things.

I understand what you're saying, but how do you know that God drew the line at 66 books? Seriously, there wasn't even a Bible when John wrote Revelation. The warning in it could not conceivably had anything to do with a book that did not exist. God called prophets for hundreds of years. Why do you think He would have suddenly stopped? What kind of a loving Father would write a list of instructions for His kids and then tell them, "Read these. I'm out of here. I'm through talking to you."? There is simply no legitimate reason for Him to have done that.

No offense to you as a human being and neighbor, just that I do not agree with the teachings of anyone that has an extra-biblical book to base their beliefs on.:sorry1:

That's fine. Just treat me with respect and I'll return the favor.

 

[Watchmen]

Katz, he doesn't even understand what you were alluding to.

 

[J Bryson]

I was trying to stay out of this, but: blu? You do realize that what you know as the Bible was put together by committee, right? And also that the fact that Revelation is the last book in the Bible does not necessarily mean that it was the last one written? Not to mention that any number of perfectly good Gospels were left out in the greatest single example of bowlderization in all of recorded history?

 

[bluZero]

Explain to me, please, how that is any more difficult to believe than that a virgin bore God's Son? Or do you just believe that with God, some things actually are impossible?

I understand what you're saying, but how do you know that God drew the line at 66 books? Didn't you read that i said the books were a cohesive whole, are you being ignorant or just playing a head game.? Seriously, there wasn't even a Bible when John wrote Revelation. Again, john was around until A D 95 when he finished and the Holy Ghost had all the other books finished by then. And John was well apprised of everything because he was a foundation of the word, an apostle.

The warning in it could not conceivably had anything to do with a book that did not exist. He wrote the book and even if there was no books before he finished the last book it was still the last book of the bible, and that is what it was and is. God called prophets for hundreds of years. Why do you think He would have suddenly stopped?
when god finished the last book of the bible, law book of God, he in it gave us all the information that we were ever going to get from him, so the bible is like talking to God, and God did even stop the speaking in tongues because the bible was finished
What kind of a loving Father would write a list of instructions for His kids and then tell them, "Read these.
Anything you want to know of or understand about God is in his book, and he even gave the believers the Holy Ghost to comfort them, so God is not outta here. He even gives guardian angels to minister to us.:angel2:
I'm out of here. I'm through talking to you."? There is simply no legitimate reason for Him to have done that. This is your own conclusion.
You are apparently blinded by the devil because you are still unsaved, betta believe it.
That's fine. Just treat me with respect and I'll return the favor.

Hey, It is God's law to love our neighbor, so please do your self a favor and really check out if you are a saved individual, does you spirit witness with GOD'S? CAN YOU IN THE SPIRIT SAY ABBA FATHER IN SYNC WITH God?

 

[edward]

Bad, poorly thought-out posts that reflect character assassination, sarcasm and other sophomoric innuendos (Christian or not) deserve the same kind of responses...

I guess that we are in agreement, then. :yes: Have a nice week.

Edward