Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid?

[bluZero]

You're the one who mentioned "Norseman" and I asked if you were talking about Vikings. A simple Yes or No would have done. Anyone, you further demonstrated that you don't know what you're talking about because there is no set authority on where the events of the BoM took place. We don't know if it was Central America or South or North America or east coast or west, etc. etc. People guess about it, but there's nothing set in stone.

Yes I did mention Norsmen, I was wondering if the early writing were misinterpreted. All that info I gave you, I wikied, call Wiki mistaken, not me.

Yes, just like the Mormon fairy tale, no way of proving it. But I believe in what is written do you? (1Thes 5:21) Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

 

[Watchmen]

Yes I did mention Norsmen, I was wondering if the early writing were misinterpreted. All that info I gave you, I wikied, call Wiki mistaken, not me.

So you posit that there might have been a mistranslation and when I ask for clarification you pounce all over me and attack my faith? I was interested in having a meaningful dialogue with you, but it turns out you're just another anti-Mormon spewing hate and being deceptive (great Christ-like attribute, that is).

Yes, just like the Mormon fairy tale, no way of proving it. But I believe in what is written do you? (1Thes 5:21) Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

That's right. It's a fairy tale. Just like walking on water, turning water to wine, fishes and loaves feeding many, the parting of the red sea, darkness over all the earth for hours, and so on.

 

[Sola'lor]

Yes, just like the Mormon fairy tale, no way of proving it. But I believe in what is written do you? (1Thes 5:21) Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

That doesn't make any sense. You said that they are the same as the "mormon fairy tale" meaning that there is no way of proving it. Then you said, "But I believe what is written". You then quoted a scripture tell us to "Prove all things". You just said that the things can be proven:

Yes, just like the Mormon fairy tale, no way of proving it.

How can you obey that scripture to prove it when you just told us you CAN'T prove it.

 

[bluZero]

So you posit that there might have been a mistranslation and when I ask for clarification you pounce all over me and attack my faith? I was interested in having a meaningful dialogue with you, but it turns out you're just another anti-Mormon spewing hate and being deceptive (great Christ-like attribute, that is).



That's right. It's a fairy tale. Just like walking on water, turning water to wine, fishes and loaves feeding many, the parting of the red sea, darkness over all the earth for hours, and so on.

You never asked me for any clarification other than you said that it is not written concrete as to where these ppl came from, But I gave you a wiki that tells of them. But it itself is kind of sketchy.
I am not attacking you personally or your faith in Christ, just the mormon writings/plates which were conveniently given back to Moroni. They are without proof, hence, a fable! Do you believe in this verse: (2Thes 2:3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
(2Thes 2:4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Why are you still in a place where God is not? See you tomorrow, it is bed time.

 

[Sola'lor]

Here's what the Book of Mormon says about proving it:

Moroni 10:3-7
3 Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts.
4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.

6 And whatsoever thing is good is just and true; wherefore, nothing that is good denieth the Christ, but acknowledgeth that he is.

7 And ye may know that he is, by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore I would exhort you that ye deny not the power of God; for he worketh by power, according to the faith of the children of men, the same today and tomorrow, and forever.


There were also people who saw the Gold Plates:

THE TESTIMONY OF THREE WITNESSES
Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That we, through the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, have seen the plates which contain this record, which is a record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites, their brethren, and also of the people of Jared, who came from the tower of which hath been spoken. And we also know that they have been translated by the gift and power of God, for his voice hath declared it unto us; wherefore we know of a surety that the work is true. And we also testify that we have seen the engravings which are upon the plates; and they have been shown unto us by the power of God, and not of man. And we declare with words of soberness, that an angel of God came down from heaven, and he brought and laid before our eyes, that we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon; and we know that it is by the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, that we beheld and bear record that these things are true. And it is marvelous in our eyes. Nevertheless, the voice of the Lord commanded us that we should bear record of it; wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, we bear testimony of these things. And we know that if we are faithful in Christ, we shall rid our garments of the blood of all men, and be found spotless before the judgment-seat of Christ, and shall dwell with him eternally in the heavens. And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.
Oliver Cowdery
David Whitmer
Martin Harris

THE TESTIMONY OF EIGHT WITNESSES
Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That Joseph Smith, Jun., the translator of this work, has shown unto us the plates of which hath been spoken, which have the appearance of gold; and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands; and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship. And this we bear record with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith has got the plates of which we have spoken. And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen. And we lie not, God bearing witness of it.
Christian Whitmer
Jacob Whitmer
Peter Whitmer, Jun
John Whitmer
Hiram Page
Joseph Smith, Sen
Hyrum Smith
Samuel H. Smith


Mary Whitmer
Quote from her granddaughter:
"I have heard my grandmother (Mary Musselman Whitmer) say on several occasions that she was shown the plates of the Book of Mormon by a holy angel, whom she always called Brother Nephi. (She undoubtedly refers to Moroni, the angel who had the plates in charge.) It was at the time, she said, when the translation was going on at the house of the elder Peter Whitmer, her husband. Joseph Smith with his wife and Oliver Cowdery, whom David Whitmer a short time previous had brought up from Harmony, Pennsylvania, were all boarding with the Whitmers, and my grandmother in having so many extra persons to care for, besides her own large household, was often overloaded with work to such an extent that she felt it to be quite a burden. One evening, when (after having done her usual day's work in the house) she went to the barn to milk the cows, she met a stranger carrying something on his back that looked like a knapsack. At first she was a little afraid of him, but when he spoke to her in a kind, friendly tone and began to explain to her the nature of the work which was going on in her house, she was filled with inexpressible joy and satisfaction. He then untied his knapsack and showed her a bundle of plates, which in size and appearance corresponded with the description subsequently given by the witnesses to the Book of Mormon. This strange person turned the leaves of the book of plates over, leaf after leaf, and also showed her the engravings upon them; after which he told her to be patient and faithful in bearing her burden a little longer, promising that if she would do so, she should be blessed; and her reward would be sure, if she proved faithful to the end. The personage then suddenly vanished with the plates, and where he went, she could not tell. From that moment my grandmother was enabled to perform her household duties with comparative ease, and she felt no more inclination to murmur because her lot was hard. I knew my grandmother to be a good, noble and truthful woman, and I have not the least doubt of her statement in regard to seeing the plates being strictly true. She was a strong believer in the Book of Mormon until the day of her death."

Lucy Mack Smith
Lucy Mack Smith was asked if she ever saw the plates during this time. "I asked her [Lucy Smith] if she saw the plates. She said no, it was not for her to see them, but she hefted and handled them."

Emma Smith(Joseph's Wife)
Joseph shared his stories about the First Vision, the Angel Moroni and the gold plates with her. She trusted and believed him. She was with him the night he was finally allowed to take the plates. She saw him walking down the hill with a large bundle in his arms wrapped in cloth, making her the first person, other than Joseph, to see evidence of the reality of the plates, without actually seeing them.

You want some more people who witnessed the plates?

Obviously none of this is absolute irrefutable proof. But then when does God ever give us absolute irrefutable proof.

 

[LittleNipper]

Not for everyone to see inside (let's exclude women), but the sack full of scrap metal plates must have been from GOD, because Mr. Joseph Smith said they were along with a group of his drinking buddies...

 

[LittleNipper]

The finding and translation of the book of mormon has no parallel with how such events were handled in the Bible. Therefore, the bom is not scripture and not directly from GOD. It is a forgery.

 

[LittleNipper]

I do not hate people. I must hate values, opinions, and beliefs that pretend to be godly but in fact are so much humanism. The Bible is a tangible manifestation of GOD, and as such has both physical and spiritual aspects. The book of mormon only possesses mystical characteristics without the tangible reality of place/events/people/etc...

 

[SoyLeche]

Not for everyone to see inside (let's exclude women), but the sack full of scrap metal plates must have been from GOD, because Mr. Joseph Smith said they were along with a group of his drinking buddies...

Mary Whitmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FWIW

 

[bluZero]

That doesn't make any sense. You said that they are the same as the "mormon fairy tale" meaning that there is no way of proving it. Then you said, "But I believe what is written". You then quoted a scripture tell us to "Prove all things". You just said that the things can be proven:



How can you obey that scripture to prove it when you just told us you CAN'T prove it.

what is up with all the double talk?

 

[bluZero]

Here's what the Book of Mormon says about proving it:

Moroni 10:3-7
3 Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts.
4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.

6 And whatsoever thing is good is just and true; wherefore, nothing that is good denieth the Christ, but acknowledgeth that he is.

7 And ye may know that he is, by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore I would exhort you that ye deny not the power of God; for he worketh by power, according to the faith of the children of men, the same today and tomorrow, and forever.


There were also people who saw the Gold Plates:

THE TESTIMONY OF THREE WITNESSES
Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That we, through the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, have seen the plates which contain this record, which is a record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites, their brethren, and also of the people of Jared, who came from the tower of which hath been spoken. And we also know that they have been translated by the gift and power of God, for his voice hath declared it unto us; wherefore we know of a surety that the work is true. And we also testify that we have seen the engravings which are upon the plates; and they have been shown unto us by the power of God, and not of man. And we declare with words of soberness, that an angel of God came down from heaven, and he brought and laid before our eyes, that we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon; and we know that it is by the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, that we beheld and bear record that these things are true. And it is marvelous in our eyes. Nevertheless, the voice of the Lord commanded us that we should bear record of it; wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, we bear testimony of these things. And we know that if we are faithful in Christ, we shall rid our garments of the blood of all men, and be found spotless before the judgment-seat of Christ, and shall dwell with him eternally in the heavens. And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.
Oliver Cowdery
David Whitmer
Martin Harris

THE TESTIMONY OF EIGHT WITNESSES
Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That Joseph Smith, Jun., the translator of this work, has shown unto us the plates of which hath been spoken, which have the appearance of gold; and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands; and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship. And this we bear record with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith has got the plates of which we have spoken. And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen. And we lie not, God bearing witness of it.
Christian Whitmer
Jacob Whitmer
Peter Whitmer, Jun
John Whitmer
Hiram Page
Joseph Smith, Sen
Hyrum Smith
Samuel H. Smith


Mary Whitmer
Quote from her granddaughter:
"I have heard my grandmother (Mary Musselman Whitmer) say on several occasions that she was shown the plates of the Book of Mormon by a holy angel, whom she always called Brother Nephi. (She undoubtedly refers to Moroni, the angel who had the plates in charge.) It was at the time, she said, when the translation was going on at the house of the elder Peter Whitmer, her husband. Joseph Smith with his wife and Oliver Cowdery, whom David Whitmer a short time previous had brought up from Harmony, Pennsylvania, were all boarding with the Whitmers, and my grandmother in having so many extra persons to care for, besides her own large household, was often overloaded with work to such an extent that she felt it to be quite a burden. One evening, when (after having done her usual day's work in the house) she went to the barn to milk the cows, she met a stranger carrying something on his back that looked like a knapsack. At first she was a little afraid of him, but when he spoke to her in a kind, friendly tone and began to explain to her the nature of the work which was going on in her house, she was filled with inexpressible joy and satisfaction. He then untied his knapsack and showed her a bundle of plates, which in size and appearance corresponded with the description subsequently given by the witnesses to the Book of Mormon. This strange person turned the leaves of the book of plates over, leaf after leaf, and also showed her the engravings upon them; after which he told her to be patient and faithful in bearing her burden a little longer, promising that if she would do so, she should be blessed; and her reward would be sure, if she proved faithful to the end. The personage then suddenly vanished with the plates, and where he went, she could not tell. From that moment my grandmother was enabled to perform her household duties with comparative ease, and she felt no more inclination to murmur because her lot was hard. I knew my grandmother to be a good, noble and truthful woman, and I have not the least doubt of her statement in regard to seeing the plates being strictly true. She was a strong believer in the Book of Mormon until the day of her death."

Lucy Mack Smith
Lucy Mack Smith was asked if she ever saw the plates during this time. "I asked her [Lucy Smith] if she saw the plates. She said no, it was not for her to see them, but she hefted and handled them."

Emma Smith(Joseph's Wife)
Joseph shared his stories about the First Vision, the Angel Moroni and the gold plates with her. She trusted and believed him. She was with him the night he was finally allowed to take the plates. She saw him walking down the hill with a large bundle in his arms wrapped in cloth, making her the first person, other than Joseph, to see evidence of the reality of the plates, without actually seeing them.

You want some more people who witnessed the plates?

Obviously none of this is absolute irrefutable proof. But then when does God ever give us absolute irrefutable proof.

You are trying to use the book that is in question as to wether or not is is suitable to be intergrated into the bible to verify that it is. Isn't that a bit absurd? The bibles word of God says to prove all things

So in effect I am saying prove that the book of Moroni is not an extra-biblical book and not use it to debate with me, but use the word of God that is the acceptable word of God, Hence only out of the 66 original books of the KJV. From what I have read concerning the book Of Moroni, it has been intergrated it into the KJV bible of God. Aren't you afraid then that you are guilty of adding to the word of God where all the curses of the bible will be added to you?
Revelation 22: 18 -19. When the bible was finished in A D 95 the verses Of Rev 22:18-19 were added to prevent anyone from adding to or taking away from the bible books.

Christ also warned us that anytime after his book was finished, that any dreams, visions, miracles or even speaking in tongues were no long to be edified because they had ceased. So since that date, A D 95, any thing, including the SDA's SATURDAY SABBATH DUE TO A VISION ELEN G WHITE HAD, WAS CONSIDERD HERESY ALSO. There was no real angel named Moroni, because The word angel means messenger, and they are ministering spirits for the saints. They do not fight wars or intergrate with humans in any way, God himself had done so many times in the OLD testament with Abram and a few others before Moses. but those days are gone forever.

 

[Watchmen]

You are trying to use the book that is in question as to wether or not is is suitable to be intergrated into the bible to verify that it is. Isn't that a bit absurd? The bibles word of God says to prove all things

So in effect I am saying prove that the book of Moroni is not an extra-biblical book and not use it to debate with me, but use the word of God that is the acceptable word of God, Hence only out of the 66 original books of the KJV. From what I have read concerning the book Of Moroni, it has been intergrated it into the KJV bible of God. Aren't you afraid then that you are guilty of adding to the word of God where all the curses of the bible will be added to you?
Revelation 22: 18 -19. When the bible was finished in A D 95 the verses Of Rev 22:18-19 were added to prevent anyone from adding to or taking away from the bible books.

Christ also warned us that anytime after his book was finished, that any dreams, visions, miracles or even speaking in tongues were no long to be edified because they had ceased. So since that date, A D 95, any thing, including the SDA's SATURDAY SABBATH DUE TO A VISION ELEN G WHITE HAD, WAS CONSIDERD HERESY ALSO. There was no real angel named Moroni, because The word angel means messenger, and they are ministering spirits for the saints. They do not fight wars or intergrate with humans in any way, God himself had done so many times in the OLD testament with Abram and a few others before Moses. but those days are gone forever.

It's not integrated into the Bible, silly.

 

[Watchmen]

You never asked me for any clarification other than you said that it is not written concrete as to where these ppl came from, But I gave you a wiki that tells of them. But it itself is kind of sketchy.
I am not attacking you personally or your faith in Christ, just the mormon writings/plates which were conveniently given back to Moroni. They are without proof, hence, a fable! Do you believe in this verse: (2Thes 2:3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
(2Thes 2:4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Why are you still in a place where God is not? See you tomorrow, it is bed time.

The post where I asked if you were referring to the Vikings was me asking clarificatio and then you went off, revealing yourself for the hater that you are.

 

[Watchmen]

what is up with all the double talk?

What's up with all the hate and deception?

 

[bluZero]

It's not integrated into the Bible, silly.

Silly? The Book of Mormon is the earliest of the defining publications of the Latter Day Saint movement. The churches of the movement typically regard the Book of Mormon not only as scripture, but as a historical record of God's dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas, written by American prophets from perhaps as early as 2500 B.C. to about 400 A.D.[3]

 

[bluZero]

What's up with all the hate and deception?

Seems to me that you have been pursuing that course sine you first spoke to me, If I am being hateful, Shame on me, If it is you being hateful, shame on you.>

Not hateful, but the scripture does tell us that if any other gospel is preached to us other than what has been preached let it be accursed, could be you fell God's curse on you:yes:

I could also understand where you are coming from, if I was brought up in a cave , then I would not be able to see the light also.

But all in all, it is a very convincing story and if I didn't know ant better and was like you, I would also believe in it. The one of many things that blows the story is that Someone says he met Jesus face to face, and Since Jesus was against adultery and polygamy, it really sheds doubt on it even further.

 

[Sola'lor]

You are trying to use the book that is in question as to wether or not is is suitable to be intergrated into the bible to verify that it is.

The Book of Mormon is not supposed to be integrated into the Bible. It is a seperate book.

Isn't that a bit absurd?

It is absurd to try and make the Book of Mormon part of the Bible. But it is not absurd to use the contents of a book to determine whether or not that book contains truth.

The bibles word of God says to prove all things

Which is interesting because you said earlier that it is not possible to prove the things Christ did just like it is not possible to prove that the "Mormon fairy tale." So how are you going to prove the Bible when you just said that it can't be proven.

So in effect I am saying prove that the book of Moroni is not an extra-biblical book and not use it to debate with me, but use the word of God that is the acceptable word of God, Hence only out of the 66 original books of the KJV.

I'm not trying to prove that it is not an extra-biblical book. Pardon the double negative. It's quite obviously an extrab-Biblical book. What I AM trying to prove is that it contains more of God's word as revealed to servants that He chose in the ancient Americas. Don't you think those people deserevved to have the Gospel too? Or should God just give the gospel to a limited group of people and forget about other people because they are too far away.

I posted external testimony that the golden plates actually existed. Yet for some reason you completely ignored this? Hmmm. I thought you are the one calling for evidence.

From what I have read concerning the book Of Moroni, it has been intergrated it into the KJV bible of God.

It hasn't been integrated into the BIble. The Bible we use still consists of ONLY the Old Testament and the New Testament.

Aren't you afraid then that you are guilty of adding to the word of God where all the curses of the bible will be added to you?

No. Because I haven't added to or taken away from any of the Bible.

Revelation 22: 18 -19.

I'll repost this since you never bothered to read it.
Let's examine the verses in question:

Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Now the biggest thing that stands out to me is the use of the words "this book." This term is metioned three times. Now which book is the term "ths book" refering too? Is it the entire Bible? It's possible, but this scripture was written before the Bible even existed. So why would John use the localized term "this book" in refering to a book that does not yet exist? Strike One.

There's another clue in this passage as to what book John is refering to. He also says "the book of this prophecy"[emphasis added]. It is clear that John is refering to a specific prophecy here. The Bible is not one prophecy. The Bible wasn't revealed all at once. The Bible was compiled from writtings passed down through thousands of years. The Bible contains hundreds of prophecies. So it seems to me that if John would have been refering to the Bible here he would have said 'the book of these prophecies.' Or even 'the books of these prophecies.,' since the Bible is not one book it is many different books. It is clear that whatever book John is refering to is only about one main prophecy. It seems to me that this would probably be...the book of "THE REVELATION OF ST JOHN THE DIVINE"[emphasis added]. Strike Two.

Now even if we disregard the information contained in the two verses as to which book it is. Lets pretend for a moment that John is refering to the Bible. What heppens if I have the Old Testament and the New Testament as spereate books? Now these verses are only in one book, the New Testament. That mean they wouldn't apply to a different book, the old testament. So I could add or take away whatever I wanted with out fear. Because I'm not taking away from or adding to "this book" as in the New Testament. See it just doesn't make sense. Strike Three.

Finally, as brought up before these verses specifically state that in any man will add or take away. It does not say that God can not add or take away from this prophecy. Strike Four. You're Out!

 

[Sola'lor]

When the bible was finished in A D 95 the verses Of Rev 22:18-19 were added to prevent anyone from adding to or taking away from the bible books.

The Bible wasn't finished in 95AD. The Book of Revelation possibly was. Here's a History of the Bible.

500 AD: Scriptures have been Translated into Over 500 Languages.
600 AD: LATIN was the Only Language Allowed for Scripture.
995 AD: Anglo-Saxon (Early Roots of English Language) Translations of The New Testament Produced.
1384 AD: Wycliffe is the First Person to Produce a (Hand-Written) manuscript Copy of the Complete Bible; All 80 Books.
1455 AD: Gutenberg Invents the Printing Press; Books May Now be mass-Produced Instead of Individually Hand-Written. The First Book Ever Printed is Gutenberg's Bible in Latin.
1516 AD: Erasmus Produces a Greek/Latin Parallel New Testament.
1522 AD: Martin Luther's German New Testament.
1526 AD: William Tyndale's New Testament; The First New Testament printed in the English Language.
1535 AD: Myles Coverdale's Bible; The First Complete Bible printed in the English Language (80 Books: O.T. & N.T. & Apocrypha).
1537 AD: Tyndale-Matthews Bible; The Second Complete Bible printed in English. Done by John "Thomas Matthew" Rogers (80 Books).
1539 AD: The "Great Bible" Printed; The First English Language Bible Authorized for Public Use (80 Books).
1560 AD: The Geneva Bible Printed; The First English Language Bible to add Numbered Verses to Each Chapter (80 Books).
1568 AD: The Bishops Bible Printed; The Bible of which the King James was a Revision (80 Books).
1609 AD: The Douay Old Testament is added to the Rheims New Testament (of 1582) Making the First Complete English Catholic Bible; Translated from the Latin Vulgate (80 Books).
1611 AD: The King James Bible Printed; Originally with All 80 Books. The Apocrypha was Officially Removed in 1885 Leaving Only 66 Books.
1782 AD: Robert Aitken's Bible; The First English Language Bible (KJV) Printed in America.
1791 AD: Isaac Collins and Isaiah Thomas Respectively Produce the First Family Bible and First Illustrated Bible Printed in America. Both were King James Versions, with All 80 Books.
1808 AD: Jane Aitken's Bible (Daughter of Robert Aitken); The First Bible to be Printed by a Woman.
1833 AD: Noah Webster's Bible; After Producing his Famous Dictionary, Webster Printed his Own Revision of the King James Bible.
1841 AD: English Hexapla New Testament; an Early Textual Comparison showing the Greek and 6 Famous English Translations in Parallel Columns.
1846 AD: The Illuminated Bible; The Most Lavishly Illustrated Bible printed in America. A King James Version, with All 80 Books.
1885 AD: The "English Revised Version" Bible; The First Major English Revision of the KJV.
1901 AD: The "American Standard Version"; The First Major American Revision of the KJV.
1971 AD: The "New American Standard Bible" (NASB) is Published as a "Modern and Accurate Word for Word English Translation" of the Bible.
1973 AD: The "New International Version" (NIV) is Published as a "Modern and Accurate Phrase for Phrase English Translation" of the Bible.
1982 AD: The "New King James Version" (NKJV) is Published as a "Modern English Version Maintaining the Original Style of the King James."
2002 AD: The English Standard Version (ESV) is Published as a translation to bridge the gap between the accuracy of the NASB and the readability of the NIV.

Here's a list of of Bible Versions.

"Authorized" King James Version *
New King James Version *
New International Version
American Standard Version
New American Standard Bible
Revised English Bible
New Living Translation
Amplified
Revised Standard Version
New Revised Standard Version
Darby
New Century Version
Young's Literal Translation (1891)
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (reprinted, 1902)
Fenton's Holy Bible in Modern English (1903)
New American Bible (1970)
Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible (1976)
Christian Bible (1991)
World English Bible (in progress)
Original Bible Project (Dr. James Tabor, still in translation)
Wesley's New Testament (1755)
Scarlett's New Testament (1798)
The New Testament in Greek and English (Kneeland, 1823)
Twentieth Century New Testament (1900)
Weymouth's New Testament in Modern Speech (1903)
Panin's Numeric English New Testament (1914)
The People's New Covenant (Overbury, 1925)
Hanson's New Covenant (1884)
Western New Testament (1926)
New Testament of our Lord and Savior Anointed (Tomanek, 1958) Testament (1983) The New Testament, A Translation (Clementson, 1938)
Emphatic Diaglott, Greek/English Interlinear (Wilson, 1942)
The New Testament, A New Translation (Greber, 1980)
Orthodox Jewish Brit Chadasha [New Testament only]
Zondervan Parallel New Testament in Greek and English (1975)**
Interlinear NASB-NIV Parallel New Testament in Greek and English (1993)**
Interlinear Greek-English New Testament (Berry,1897)**
Tanakh, The Holy Scriptures, Old Testament (1985)

So when was the Bible Finished? And which one is the right one?

Christ also warned us that anytime after his book was finished, that any dreams, visions, miracles or even speaking in tongues were no long to be edified because they had ceased.

Where does it say this? I didn't know Christ had His own book.

So since that date, A D 95, any thing, including the SDA's SATURDAY SABBATH DUE TO A VISION ELEN G WHITE HAD, WAS CONSIDERD HERESY ALSO.

So you're saying God hasn't communicated directly with anyone for almost 2000 years! If that is true this is the only period in history where God has not communicated with man. It seems kind of out of place to me.

There was no real angel named Moroni, because The word angel means messenger, and they are ministering spirits for the saints.

Prove that there was no angel Moroni.

They do not fight wars or intergrate with humans in any way,

Please prove evidence the Angel Moroni fought in a war. What do you mean by "intergrate"?

God himself had done so many times in the OLD testament with Abram and a few others before Moses. but those days are gone forever.

So God no longer interacts with mankind.

 

[bluZero]

The Bible wasn't finished in 95AD. The Book of Revelation possibly was. Here's a History of the Bible.

500 AD: Scriptures have been Translated into Over 500 Languages.
600 AD: LATIN was the Only Language Allowed for Scripture.
995 AD: Anglo-Saxon (Early Roots of English Language) Translations of The New Testament Produced.
1384 AD: Wycliffe is the First Person to Produce a (Hand-Written) manuscript Copy of the Complete Bible; All 80 Books.
1455 AD: Gutenberg Invents the Printing Press; Books May Now be mass-Produced Instead of Individually Hand-Written. The First Book Ever Printed is Gutenberg's Bible in Latin.
1516 AD: Erasmus Produces a Greek/Latin Parallel New Testament.
1522 AD: Martin Luther's German New Testament.
1526 AD: William Tyndale's New Testament; The First New Testament printed in the English Language.
1535 AD: Myles Coverdale's Bible; The First Complete Bible printed in the English Language (80 Books: O.T. & N.T. & Apocrypha).
1537 AD: Tyndale-Matthews Bible; The Second Complete Bible printed in English. Done by John "Thomas Matthew" Rogers (80 Books).
1539 AD: The "Great Bible" Printed; The First English Language Bible Authorized for Public Use (80 Books).
1560 AD: The Geneva Bible Printed; The First English Language Bible to add Numbered Verses to Each Chapter (80 Books).
1568 AD: The Bishops Bible Printed; The Bible of which the King James was a Revision (80 Books).
1609 AD: The Douay Old Testament is added to the Rheims New Testament (of 1582) Making the First Complete English Catholic Bible; Translated from the Latin Vulgate (80 Books).
1611 AD: The King James Bible Printed; Originally with All 80 Books. The Apocrypha was Officially Removed in 1885 Leaving Only 66 Books.
1782 AD: Robert Aitken's Bible; The First English Language Bible (KJV) Printed in America.
1791 AD: Isaac Collins and Isaiah Thomas Respectively Produce the First Family Bible and First Illustrated Bible Printed in America. Both were King James Versions, with All 80 Books.
1808 AD: Jane Aitken's Bible (Daughter of Robert Aitken); The First Bible to be Printed by a Woman.
1833 AD: Noah Webster's Bible; After Producing his Famous Dictionary, Webster Printed his Own Revision of the King James Bible.
1841 AD: English Hexapla New Testament; an Early Textual Comparison showing the Greek and 6 Famous English Translations in Parallel Columns.
1846 AD: The Illuminated Bible; The Most Lavishly Illustrated Bible printed in America. A King James Version, with All 80 Books.
1885 AD: The "English Revised Version" Bible; The First Major English Revision of the KJV.
1901 AD: The "American Standard Version"; The First Major American Revision of the KJV.
1971 AD: The "New American Standard Bible" (NASB) is Published as a "Modern and Accurate Word for Word English Translation" of the Bible.
1973 AD: The "New International Version" (NIV) is Published as a "Modern and Accurate Phrase for Phrase English Translation" of the Bible.
1982 AD: The "New King James Version" (NKJV) is Published as a "Modern English Version Maintaining the Original Style of the King James."
2002 AD: The English Standard Version (ESV) is Published as a translation to bridge the gap between the accuracy of the NASB and the readability of the NIV.

Here's a list of of Bible Versions.

"Authorized" King James Version *
New King James Version *
New International Version
American Standard Version
New American Standard Bible
Revised English Bible
New Living Translation
Amplified
Revised Standard Version
New Revised Standard Version
Darby
New Century Version
Young's Literal Translation (1891)
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (reprinted, 1902)
Fenton's Holy Bible in Modern English (1903)
New American Bible (1970)
Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible (1976)
Christian Bible (1991)
World English Bible (in progress)
Original Bible Project (Dr. James Tabor, still in translation)
Wesley's New Testament (1755)
Scarlett's New Testament (1798)
The New Testament in Greek and English (Kneeland, 1823)
Twentieth Century New Testament (1900)
Weymouth's New Testament in Modern Speech (1903)
Panin's Numeric English New Testament (1914)
The People's New Covenant (Overbury, 1925)
Hanson's New Covenant (1884)
Western New Testament (1926)
New Testament of our Lord and Savior Anointed (Tomanek, 1958) Testament (1983) The New Testament, A Translation (Clementson, 1938)
Emphatic Diaglott, Greek/English Interlinear (Wilson, 1942)
The New Testament, A New Translation (Greber, 1980)
Orthodox Jewish Brit Chadasha [New Testament only]
Zondervan Parallel New Testament in Greek and English (1975)**
Interlinear NASB-NIV Parallel New Testament in Greek and English (1993)**
Interlinear Greek-English New Testament (Berry,1897)**
Tanakh, The Holy Scriptures, Old Testament (1985)

So when was the Bible Finished? And which one is the right one?

LOL! KJV. and a Hebrew English and a Greek/english interlinear.
Where does it say this? I didn't know Christ had His own book.

So you're saying God hasn't communicated directly with anyone for almost 2000 years! If that is true this is the only period in history where God has not communicated with man. It seems kind of out of place to me.



Prove that there was no angel Moroni. LOL< The burden of proofe is on the ones that claim him , don't you think?



Please prove evidence the Angel Moroni fought in a war. What do you mean by "intergrate"?

which is interesting because you said earlier that it is not possible to prove the things Christ did just like it is not possible to prove that the "Mormon fairy tale." So how are you going to prove the Bible when you just said that it can't be proven.
Just what are you implying here?

So God no longer interacts with mankind.

Depends on what we are talking about?
Sola, go check it out on wikipedia as i did.

 

[Watchmen]

Silly? The Book of Mormon is the earliest of the defining publications of the Latter Day Saint movement. The churches of the movement typically regard the Book of Mormon not only as scripture, but as a historical record of God's dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas, written by American prophets from perhaps as early as 2500 B.C. to about 400 A.D.[3]

The Book of Mormon isn't silly. You are. And, it's not part of the Bible (but you didn't address that).