Why don't Republicans see this?

[Subduction Zone]

The lack of signature requirement is what made the fraud possible.

Find a valid source that supports that claim. I already refuted the dating claim.

Your source failed. It is not reliable when it comes to such claims.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Watch 2000 mules if you want to know how they did it.

Philadephia alone had about 1100 mules delivering untraceable mail in ballots to the unmonitered drop boxes.

Oh my! Now you are telling jokes.

 

[KW]

Sorry,but you have a huge burden of proof there. Meanwhile I already refuted your lying source.

How did you refute it? Irrelevant opinion?

 

[Subduction Zone]

How did you refute it? Irrelevant opinion?

Go back and look at my first post where I demanded a reliable source. I edited it and provided a link quite a while ago. It shows how your source was being dishonest when it came to the claim of dating of ballots. Or do you believe in time machines?

 

[KW]

Go back and look at my first post where I demanded a reliable source. I edited it and provided a link quite a while ago. It shows how your source was being dishonest when it came to the claim of dating of ballots. Or do you believe in time machines?

Nothing in anything you posted contradicts this:

Pennsylvania: At 11pm on election night Trump leads Biden by 700,000 votes, a 13% margin of victory. Then mail-in vote batches appear which give Biden the lead by the morning of November 6. On September 8, the PA Supreme Court ruled in advance that mail-in ballots with no postmarks or name and address can be counted. (Official ruling here)


More importantly, there is no way to trace the ballots.

Voting stopped, Democrats determined how much of their stash they needed, then a massive influx of the ballots created by the mules flooded in.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nothing in anything you posted contradicts this:

Pennsylvania: At 11pm on election night Trump leads Biden by 700,000 votes, a 13% margin of victory. Then mail-in vote batches appear which give Biden the lead by the morning of November 6. On September 8, the PA Supreme Court ruled in advance that mail-in ballots with no postmarks or name and address can be counted. (Official ruling here)


More importantly, there is no way to trace the ballots.

Voting stopped, Democrats determined how much of their stash they needed, then a massive influx of the ballots created by the mules flooded in.

Dude! You have to read your own sources. The ballots without dates were valid as long as they arrived on time. That means before the polls closed.

Did the Democrats invent time travel? If not then the lack of a date or a postmark does not make any difference at all.

 

[KW]

Dude! You have to read your own sources. The ballots without dates were valid as long as they arrived on time. That means before the polls closed.

Did the Democrats invent time travel? If not then the lack of a date or a postmark does not make any difference at all.

Where does my source say anythign different than that?

Can't you read?

The point is ballots WITH NO NAME OR ADDRESS!!!!! can be counted,

Don't be such a stooge.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Where does my source say anythign different than that?

Can't you read?

The point is ballots WITH NO NAME OR ADDRESS!!!!! can be counted,

Don't be such a stooge.

Wrong again. The outer envelope has to have at least a signature:

"These appeals present the question of whether the Election Code requires a county board of elections to disqualify mail-in or absentee ballots submitted by qualified electors who signed the declaration on their ballot’s outer envelope but did not handwrite their name, their address, and/or a date, where no fraud or irregularity has been alleged"

Please note, this only applied where no fraud has been alleged. And one cannot come up with a frivolous allegation. That would clearly not be enough. A signature still allows for verification.

Read your sources.

 

[KW]

Wrong again. The outer envelope has to have at least a signature:

"These appeals present the question of whether the Election Code requires a county board of elections to disqualify mail-in or absentee ballots submitted by qualified electors who signed the declaration on their ballot’s outer envelope but did not handwrite their name, their address, and/or a date, where no fraud or irregularity has been alleged"

Please note, this only applied where no fraud has been alleged. And one cannot come up with a frivolous allegation. That would clearly not be enough. A signature still allows for verification.

Read your sources.

More BS. This is referring to a question. This is not a court ruling.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

PA vote counters removed ballots from the envelopes and counted them.

Once removed the envelopes were thrown away. There is NO WAY to check the legitimacy of the ballots. Democrats stole the election by fraud.

Republicans will learn from this however. We have to try to catch up to the cheaters.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Nothing in anything you posted contradicts this:

Pennsylvania: At 11pm on election night Trump leads Biden by 700,000 votes, a 13% margin of victory. Then mail-in vote batches appear which give Biden the lead by the morning of November 6. On September 8, the PA Supreme Court ruled in advance that mail-in ballots with no postmarks or name and address can be counted. (Official ruling here)


More importantly, there is no way to trace the ballots.

Voting stopped, Democrats determined how much of their stash they needed, then a massive influx of the ballots created by the mules flooded in.

Could you source that story? There was a 700,000 vote claim by Guiliiani regarding Pennsylvania, but it turns out he put out disinformation. He said that 1.8 million requested mail in ballots, but that 2.5 million were returned. He misconstrued the request for 1.8 million ballots for the PRIMARY election with the 2.5 million mail in ballots returned in the GENERAL election.

Pennsylvania did not have hundreds of thousands of phantom absentee ballots

 

[Secret Chief]

I have said it before, I'll say it again, and I believe it -- the US is in serious decline as a consequence of a real shift towards populist, right-wing, conspiracy-theory-laden, fascistic tendencies on the part of quite a large percentage of the population.

I'm afraid I concur, and of course there is a microcosm of it here on RF.

 

[F1fan]

Democrats rigged the election. We all know it.

False.

If this was true there would have been successful court litigation. There is nothing but failures on the part of Trump’s team of corrupt lawyers.

Republicans will have to do a better job watching the dems next time.

There are bipartisan poll watchers in every precinct. There have been claims of tampering but no evidence. Many poll workers have been threatened by MAGAs and this has damaged our democracy further as new volunteers are needed, but fearful.

Dinesh's movie will help. We can moniter drop boxes better and take photos of those people dropping multiple ballots.

Hes a conman who presents disinformation. His video has been discredited. You can believe this corrupt garbage but rational people rational people reject it.

 

[JIMMY12345]

One of the things that came out of the second day of public hearings by the January 6 Committee is that:

1. Everybody (except a drunk Giuliani) around Trump was telling him there was no fraud (so he knew),
2. Trump continued the Big Lie in spite of all of them (so he continued to lie),
3. Using the Big Lie, he then went on to raise $250 million from his supporters for a non-existent "defense fund," and put it in his own pocket (and he used that lie to commit what can only be called fraud -- against his own supporters).

So for heavens sake, why can't they see the truth, and stop supporting the man who has so self-servingly robbed them blind?

They do. Republicans in the past had honest to God Leaders you could respect like George Bush and Reagan. Republicans now have to balance a ex leader they privately dislike with his ability to conjure money. This pays for TV stations and advertising that will very likely bring him back in power.

 

[metis]

Ha! They kicked off all the Republicans that wanted an actual hearing. The only Republicans there are Trump hating Rinos who will soon be out of congress.

You crack me up sometimes.

Your dishonesty is appalling, and it's clear that you put right-wing party politics well ahead of both truth and honesty. Some Pubs were not allowed on the committee, such as Jim Jordan. because he stated in advance what his conclusions already were. Most other Pubs could have joined but didn't even ask as they probably were worried about Trump's and his bases' rath.

When you used the expression "RINO", that says a ton in that you have put the party even well ahead of the country. Cheney has strongly conservative credentials, a great deal more than Trump does, and yet you support the neo-fascist.

Here is the Catholic version of the Seven Deadly Sins, so let's see how Trump stacks up to them:

• Gula ( gluttony)
• Luxuria/Fornicatio ( lust, fornication)
• Avaritia ( avarice/greed)
• Tristitia ( sorrow / despair /despondency)
• Ira ( wrath)
• Acedia ( sloth)
• Vanagloria ( vainglory)
• Superbia ( pride, hubris)

It should be obvious how Trump violates these regularly. But then, do you really care.

 

[KW]

Could you source that story? There was a 700,000 vote claim by Guiliiani regarding Pennsylvania, but it turns out he put out disinformation. He said that 1.8 million requested mail in ballots, but that 2.5 million were returned. He misconstrued the request for 1.8 million ballots for the PRIMARY election with the 2.5 million mail in ballots returned in the GENERAL election.

Pennsylvania did not have hundreds of thousands of phantom absentee ballots

The 700,000 is not a claim, it was Trumps lead at 11 pm.

Read it again.

 

[Sand Dancer]

I think there's a direct relationship between how much influence he has and how his opponents are obsessed with taking him down. If they'd lay off, then his supporters would fade away, and Trump's influence would equally fade - if that's the actual goal here. The OP asked why people still believe in Trump, and the answer to that question (as it's been the same answer since 2016) is because of the people who are/were obsessed with wanting to get rid of Trump.

I don't think the supporters will ever fade away. They worship the guy; they think he wants to usher in an era where the religious right rules society. They think his role fulfills prophesy. That is not easy to give up on. Will they get another chance to have someone like that? Probably not, and they know it. That's why they can't let him go.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You are living in a fantasy world if you don’t see this as political.

Actually, you are.

It's not just Democrats carrying out these hearings, you know. It also includes Republicans. And the witnesses are all Republicans. Like Bill Barr (who had no problem doing all of Trump's bidding but even this was a bridge too far for him), a retired conservative judge, Pence's aides and attorneys, etc. One of Trump's own lawyers even pled the fifth, for fear of incriminating himself.

You really should watch them. You'd actually learn something.

 

[KW]

Actually, you are.

It's not just Democrats carrying out these hearings, you know. It also includes Republicans. And the witnesses are all Republicans. Like Bill Barr (who had no problem doing all of Trump's bidding but even this was a bridge too far for him), a retired conservative judge, Pence's aides and attorneys, etc. One of Trump's own lawyers even pled the fifth, for fear of incriminating himself.

You really should watch them. You'd actually learn something.

It is all anti Trump politicians. We all know that this hearing is an attempt to keep Trump from running again. There is no other purpose.

 

[SkepticThinker]

There is no plot. You people are a joke.

Democrats cheated and got away with it. You don't want the truth to come out. I get it. That's the real plot.

Oops, you should be watching the hearings.
There was definitely and demonstrably a plot.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Ha! They kicked off all the Republicans that wanted an actual hearing. The only Republicans there are Trump hating Rinos who will soon be out of congress.

You crack me up sometimes.

You think Liz Cheney, who has voted in line with Trump's positions like 93% of the time is a rino? Really?
You think Bill Barr is a rino? Really?
Talk about cracking up.

It sounds to me like you're telling yourself whatever you have to so you can just keep your head in the sand. You are the very type of person that needs to be watching these hearings.