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Why Evil?

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. (James 1:13) Satan is not a servant of YHVH, he is a tool. The biggest tool in history.

Your efforts to troll me are futile. By nature we are children of wrath. (Ephesians 2:3) You shall not lie with a man as with a woman, it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22) That's a law. But as for sorcerers, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death. (Paraphrase, Revelation 21:8) If they did practice witchcraft it was not God's will for them to do so. No they had a right to because the Lord commanded them to drive them out, were the exact words. The fact that they killed them was collateral damage. And the fact that they took them as slaves was outright disobedience.

Okay #1 your people just got overtaken in battle and now are either displaced or annihilated, where are you gonna go? At least your in the company of people who are able to take care of you.
And #2 Where does it say that God commanded them to rape them or that it was his will that they rape them?

DO NOT call me a troll for debating you!

You didn't pay attention, - I said In Tanakh Satan is a servant of YHVH. His JOB is to TEST. It says if found wanting - he brings you before YHVH. Such as the verses where he brings the High Priest before God, but God chooses to wipe his sins clean.
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Lev 18:21 through 27 is about Sacred Sex in Molach worship. Not Homosexuality.

Lev 18:21 And your semen don't give in copulation to MOLECH, and don't desecrate/prostitute yourself; honor Elohiym, I am YHVH

Lev 18:22 And with/for males, don't lie down in the beds/for intercourse woman, idolatry is this.

Note the strange wording, and NO "as with a" in 22.

Lev 18:23 And also with any beasts don't lay carnally, thus defiling yourself. And thus also woman shall not be employed to serve beasts in copulation. Bestiality it is!

Lev 18:30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.

That word translated "customs" is chuqqah - STATUTES/LAWS/RITES

Homosexuality is not a LAW - STATUTE - RITE, etc, that they PRACTICED BEFORE!!!!!

However, Sacred Sex with the Qadeshah and Qadesh in worship to Molech WAS!!! It was a death sentence because it was Idolatry.
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The Bible says the Hebrew practiced Magic. And most of the big names in there practiced magic, Magic wands into serpents, Moses, with his scrying bowl, - whom straight out says he is a Sorcerer. And plenty of magic examples in museums.

Fact is fact.

EDIT - Forgot your 1. & 2.

1. Nowhere to go is not an excuse for rape. Also, if they didn't murder noncombatants there would obviously be people for them to go to. They could even have been the Godly people they supposedly were, and take in the little ones and raise them as their own - NO RAPE -NO slavery!

2. The laws - which they claim are from God - give them these rights.

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psychoslice

Veteran Member
I really hate it when people call you a troll, just because their confused and have nothing intelligent to offer.
 
DO NOT call me a troll for debating you!

You didn't pay attention, - I said In Tanakh Satan is a servant of YHVH. His JOB is to TEST. It says if found wanting - he brings you before YHVH. Such as the verses where he brings the High Priest before God, but God chooses to wipe his sins clean.
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Lev 18:21 through 27 is about Sacred Sex in Molach worship. Not Homosexuality.

Lev 18:21 And your semen don't give in copulation to MOLECH, and don't desecrate/prostitute yourself; honor Elohiym, I am YHVH

Lev 18:22 And with/for males, don't lie down in the beds/for intercourse woman, idolatry is this.

Note the strange wording, and NO "as with a" in 22.

Lev 18:23 And also with any beasts don't lay carnally, thus defiling yourself. And thus also woman shall not be employed to serve beasts in copulation. Bestiality it is!

Lev 18:30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.

That word translated "customs" is chuqqah - STATUTES/LAWS/RITES

Homosexuality is not a LAW - STATUTE - RITE, etc, that they PRACTICED BEFORE!!!!!

However, Sacred Sex with the Qadeshah and Qadesh in worship to Molech WAS!!! It was a death sentence because it was Idolatry.
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The Bible says the Hebrew practiced Magic. And most of the big names in there practiced magic, Magic wands into serpents, Moses, with his scrying bowl, - whom straight out says he is a Sorcerer. And plenty of magic examples in museums.

Fact is fact.

EDIT - Forgot your 1. & 2.

1. Nowhere to go is not an excuse for rape. Also, if they didn't murder noncombatants there would obviously be people for them to go to. They could even have been the Godly people they supposedly were, and take in the little ones and raise them as their own - NO RAPE -NO slavery!

2. The laws - which they claim are from God - give them these rights.

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Where does this Sacred Sex come from? Lev 18:21 closes with "I am the LORD." which would seem to bracket the argument and the following verses are a seperate thing. I am not gainsaying you but some expansion with references would be helpful.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Where does this Sacred Sex come from? Lev 18:21 closes with "I am the LORD." which would seem to bracket the argument and the following verses are a seperate thing. I am not gainsaying you but some expansion with references would be helpful.

Not sure exactly what you are asking for there?

Several of the verses end with I am YHVH Elohiym.

We know the other verses are included with the Moloch verses because they continue the known Molach Sacred Sex practices, such as bestiality.

We know Molech worship included Sacred Sex. The Bible also tells us they kept bringing these Pagan Gods into the Hebrew Temple. (More likely they were bringing back parts of their original religion, which included a God and Goddess.)

They murder these people over-and-over-and-over (read Kings for instance.) We have Bible verses saying there shall be no Qedeshah of the daughters of Israel, and no Qadesh of the sons of Israel. It also says the money from their - hire - can't be used in the Temple.

Deu 23:17 There shall be no Qedeshah of the daughters of Israel, nor Qadesh of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18Thou shall not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog (male prostitute,) into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

1 Sa 2:22 Now Eli was very old, and heard all that his sons did unto Israel; and how they had sex with the women that waited at the entrance of the Tabernacle of the congregation.

Lev 20:2 Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed (semen) unto Molech;he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.

Lev 20:3 And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.

Lev 20:4 And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not:

Lev 20:5 Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people.

Is this what you had in mind? If not let me know. :)

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ether-ore

Active Member
In the beginning God created everything. Even evil. However, God never used evil. Instead he allowed the Devil to take control of evil so that there would be a story so that he would glorify himself and all people would know that he is God and he executes judgement upon sin as he judges all things. He has a right to since he created all things. Any thoughts?

To me, it makes little sense that if God created us, and we could do nothing except that we were created to do, for us then to be judged for violating God's law. Evil exists because free agency exists. I do not believe God created us. I believe we always existed and that God is helping us to progress, otherwise there could be no agency. Since free agency does exist, people create evil because of the choices they make. God allows evil to occur during mortality so that we can experience it and learn from it. If we don't learn from it and repent, then God's judgments are just.
 
Not sure exactly what you are asking for there?

Several of the verses end with I am YHVH Elohiym.

We know the other verses are included with the Moloch verses because they continue the known Molach Sacred Sex practices, such as bestiality.

We know Molech worship included Sacred Sex. The Bible also tells us they kept bringing these Pagan Gods into the Hebrew Temple. (More likely they were bringing back parts of their original religion, which included a God and Goddess.)

They murder these people over-and-over-and-over (read Kings for instance.) We have Bible verses saying there shall be no Qedeshah of the daughters of Israel, and no Qadesh of the sons of Israel. It also says the money from their - hire - can't be used in the Temple.

Deu 23:17 There shall be no Qedeshah of the daughters of Israel, nor Qadesh of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18Thou shall not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog (male prostitute,) into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

1 Sa 2:22 Now Eli was very old, and heard all that his sons did unto Israel; and how they had sex with the women that waited at the entrance of the Tabernacle of the congregation.

Lev 20:2 Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed (semen) unto Molech;he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.

Lev 20:3 And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.

Lev 20:4 And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not:

Lev 20:5 Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people.

Is this what you had in mind? If not let me know. :)

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Gah! It shouldn't be possible to have too many damn books:mad:! How do we know that Molech worship included "Sacred Sex"? How do we know it even says "Molech"? Q'deshim[=holy ones]. How do you stretch that to what I usually see refered to as "Sacred Prostitution"? Stephanie Lynn Budin in the "The Myth of Sacred Prostitution in Antiquity", Cambridge University Press, 2009, to my mind successfully, undermines this whole trope. It rests on very shaky foundations and pretty much disappears on examination of it's existence anywhere else in the ANE and Classical-Hellenistic worlds. It rests ultimately on a misunderstanding of Herodotos. After that it is the usual morass of circular citations if I am recalling correctly. I can lay my hands on thousands of volumes apropos to this not at all; but who knows where the one I want has secreted itself! My point is you might be disputing Red Dragon94 with material that is equally unsound. All this is supposed to be going on about 1100BC, when there is no evidence of an Israelite Settlement at all. Deutoronomy seems to have been conjured up from whole cloth at the time of Josiah and the rest or even all of it might be a creation of the Persian period. If you are going to feed the troll; make sure you feed him something he can choke on and not spit straight back at you.
 
To me, it makes little sense that if God created us, and we could do nothing except that we were created to do, for us then to be judged for violating God's law. Evil exists because free agency exists. I do not believe God created us. I believe we always existed and that God is helping us to progress, otherwise there could be no agency. Since free agency does exist, people create evil because of the choices they make. God allows evil to occur during mortality so that we can experience it and learn from it. If we don't learn from it and repent, then God's judgments are just.

What then is the point of God? Why should God have jurisdiction over something that has nothing to do with him? Why if God is supposed to be helping us is God so cack-handed at it? What about the rest of the cosmos, the earth, and the animals. Did God have anything to do with all that coming into being? If so, why earthquake, fire and flood? Why animal suffering and why disease? If God had nothing to do with any of that either, then the point of God would be what, exactly?
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Deadtroopers said:
(In a deleted post, claimed that Dr. Krauss showed there was no God)

Lawrence Krauss debate with William L. Craig " youtube.com/watch?v=Fs_pgaSrxP8 begin @ 3:55…Uploaded 03/30/11

“I actually think deism, the possible existence of a divine intelligence, is not an implausible postulate. And I won’t argue against it. It could be, I mean the Universe is an amazing place."
"So I think the possible existence of a divine intelligence is perfectly plausible and addresses some of the perplexing issues associated with the beginning of the Universe.


He (and no one I've been able to find) has been able to offer evidence from before the beginning, and if you have any, then please present it. Stephen Hawking thought he had some such evidence, or at least he tried to make such a bluff, but he eventually had to back down, and with absolutely no grace whatsoever. Richard Dawkins, Victor Stenger, Carl Sagan and Isaac Asimov have all made similar statements to Krauss'. And fwiw, Albert Einstein, who labeled himself an agnostic, said, "I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth." Damned if I didn't almost quote him verbatim on that.

Please......check before you insult, or at least have the grace to admit the Truth.
 
[QUOTE="ThePainefulTruth, post: 4189927, member: 41619]"Lawrence Krauss debate with William L. Craig " youtube.com/watch?v=Fs_pgaSrxP8 begin @ 3:55…Uploaded 03/30/11

“I actually think deism, the possible existence of a divine intelligence, is not an implausible postulate. And I won’t argue against it. It could be, I mean the Universe is an amazing place."
"So I think the possible existence of a divine intelligence is perfectly plausible and addresses some of the perplexing issues associated with the beginning of the Universe.


He (and no one I've been able to find) has been able to offer evidence from before the beginning, and if you have any, then please present it. Stephen Hawking thought he had some such evidence, or at least he tried to make such a bluff, but he eventually had to back down, and with absolutely no grace whatsoever. Richard Dawkins, Victor Stenger, Carl Sagan and Isaac Asimov have all made similar statements to Krauss'. And fwiw, Albert Einstein, who labeled himself an agnostic, said, "I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth." Damned if I didn't almost quote him verbatim on that.

Please......check before you insult, or at least have the grace to admit the Truth.[/QUOTE]

Sorryo_O? What post is this your referring to? I have pointed people at Professor Krauss' 'A Universe from Nothing'' a couple of times; his preface begins: "In the interests of full disclosure right at the outset I must admit I am not sympathetic to the conviction that creation requires a creator, which is at the basis of all the worlds religions."

Okay. First time I got a Craig-Krauss debate. Not the right one; but I had forgotten how appalling WLC was. Tah. I suspect Screwtape in disguise. A couple more misfires and I finally found the one you meant. As I suspected you are confusing plausibility with probability. As in "It is plausible this pistol will misfire. Put it to your temple and pull the trigger." No? Aw shucks. He goes on to say deism is far more plausible ie probable than the Abrahamic god concepts for instance. I don't think the probability of a deistic divinity is remotely as high as the most improbable scientific hypothesis of creation ex nihilo. So it is still bonkers. Less bonkers than Yahweh; but bonkers still. Is that why the post?

Something like that only cruder and more emphatic which I pulled because I realised that? I do remember a deletion or three for those reasons. I felt I had overstepped netiquette. You will have to tell me if that was the case, where it was and what I was fitting over. Why do I say bonkers? Well, there is a queue of probable reasons for reality; yours is at the back. Not as far in the back as Yahweh but in back. You have to exhaust the scientifically more likely before you can come up to the plate. Your Deism is unreasonable. I find unreason bonkers.

If you haven't already read 'A Universe from Nothing'. Nothing is unstable; because of that instability universes - somethings - are mathematically obliged to pop into existence. Yes, it sounds cock-eyed; but, hey, that is what happens when there is no-one to submit a design. Actually Professor Krauss describes it both simply and elegantly.

Babe Ruth has come to the plate. No one else need come off the bench. We don't have to exhaust the increasingly improbables. Along with Yahweh God and Deistic God; we have no need of those hypotheses. You were speaking of before the beginning. What did our something pop out of? Nothing. There is nothing before something. Which is the what I held before I read the book. Reason told me there could be nothing outside reality. We eliminated God from up there a long time ago; then we eliminated God from out there; Now we have eliminated God from outside. Or rather we have eliminated an outside for God to be and even a necessity for an outside at all. There is another thing as well. Somethings have time as well as the other dimensions. Before the beginning is a time concept. Before the beginning there is no time. Therefore there can be no before the beginning.

That is the Truth of the matter. You want to believe damn fool things; expect me to be short with you if I have already read one damn fool thing too many already.
 

neologist

Member
He didn't assign the Devil the position of evildoer, the Devil chose that himself, as you said. But all things find their origin in God, the Devil didn't create evil. Satan is the destroyer.
satan has free will just as we do. god does not look into our futures as he creates us. so we are assured our future is in our own hands
 

truthofscripture

Active Member
In the beginning God created everything. Even evil. However, God never used evil. Instead he allowed the Devil to take control of evil so that there would be a story so that he would glorify himself and all people would know that he is God and he executes judgement upon sin as he judges all things. He has a right to since he created all things. Any thoughts?
I think that your question most certainly has produced some surprising comments.
 

truthofscripture

Active Member
In the beginning God created everything. Even evil. However, God never used evil. Instead he allowed the Devil to take control of evil so that there would be a story so that he would glorify himself and all people would know that he is God and he executes judgement upon sin as he judges all things. He has a right to since he created all things. Any thoughts?
EVIL
That which results in pain, sorrow, or distress. In order to convey the correct thought in English, the very comprehensive Hebrew word raʽ is variously translated as “bad,” “gloomy,” “ugly,” “evil,” “calamitous,” “malignant,” “ungenerous,” and “envious,” depending upon the context. (Ge 2:9; 40:7; 41:3; Ex 33:4; De 6:22; 28:35; Pr 23:6; 28:22) The Greek word ka·kosʹ may be defined as that which is (1) morally evil and (2) destructive; among the ways it has been translated are: “bad,” “evil,” “hurtful,” “injurious,” “wrong.” (Ro 7:19; 12:17; Col 3:5; Tit 1:12; Heb 5:14) The Hebrew verb qa·lalʹ means “call down evil upon.”


The Meaning of Jehovah’s Bringing Evil.
Rightly, Jehovah brought evil or calamity upon Adam for his disobedience. Hence, in the Scriptures, Jehovah is referred to as the Creator of evil or calamity. (Isa 45:7; compare KJ.) His enforcing of the penalty for sin, namely, death, has proved to be an evil, or a calamity, for mankind. So, then, evil is not always synonymous with wrongdoing. Examples of evils or calamities created by Jehovah are the Flood of Noah’s day and the Ten Plagues visited upon Egypt. But these evils were not wrongs. Rather, the rightful administration of justice against wrongdoers was involved in both cases. However, at times Jehovah, in his mercy, has refrained from bringing the intended calamity or evil in execution of his righteous judgment because of the repentance on the part of those concerned. (Jon 3:10) Additionally, in having a warning given, Jehovah has undeservedly provided opportunities for the practicers of bad to change their course and thus to keep living.—Eze 33:11.
 

look3467

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Evil is in the eye of humans.
God did not.....I repeat, did not create evil.
The choice between what is good and what is evil is just that......a choice.

Now, we wouldn't have that choice were it not that we were given the ability, via intelligent creatures, to reason and decide for ourselves what we want or desire.
And, because we are gods in the flesh, we are condemned to the things of the flesh and the only opposition to it is good.
Good is God with an extra "o".

Evil is restricted to the flesh and the lusts of the flesh and only in the flesh can evil deeds exist.
Evil is generated in the hearts of souls in the flesh who do not exercise any Godly/good values.

If we understand that, when we read in the scriptures, that God brought evil upon........is giving us in our own understanding what it looks like when God intervenes in the lives of mankind to correct issues pertinent to the good of mankind.
Having an understanding of the goodness and the love of God us-word, will give us peace of mind.

Blessings, AJ
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Evil is in the eye of humans.
God did not.....I repeat, did not create evil.


Isaiah 45:7 (ASV)
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.​

Isaiah 45:7 (BRG)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (DARBY)
7 forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil: I, Jehovah, do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (DRA)
7 I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (ERV)
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (GNV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (JUB)
7 I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am the LORD that does all this.

Isaiah 45:7 (KJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (AKJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (LEB)
7 I form light and I create darkness; I make peace and I create evil; I am Yahweh; I do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (WBT)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (WYC)
7 forming light, and making darknesses, making peace, and forming evil; I am the Lord, doing all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (YLT)
7 Forming light, and preparing darkness, Making peace, and preparing evil, I [am] Jehovah, doing all these things.'​
 
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Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Isaiah 45:7 (ASV)
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.​

Isaiah 45:7 (BRG)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (DARBY)
7 forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil: I, Jehovah, do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (DRA)
7 I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (ERV)
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (GNV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (JUB)
7 I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am the LORD that does all this.

Isaiah 45:7 (KJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (AKJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (LEB)
7 I form light and I create darkness; I make peace and I create evil; I am Yahweh; I do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (WYC)
7 forming light, and making darknesses, making peace, and forming evil; I am the Lord, doing all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (YLT)
7 Forming light, and preparing darkness, Making peace, and preparing evil, I [am] Jehovah, doing all these things.'​

Here is a word-for-word literal translation;

All do the Lord I am evil and create peace I make darkness and create the light I form these.

Again, that is each individual word directly & literally translated, without taking into account grammar & such.
 

truthofscripture

Active Member
Evil is in the eye of humans.
God did not.....I repeat, did not create evil.
The choice between what is good and what is evil is just that......a choice.

Now, we wouldn't have that choice were it not that we were given the ability, via intelligent creatures, to reason and decide for ourselves what we want or desire.
And, because we are gods in the flesh, we are condemned to the things of the flesh and the only opposition to it is good.
Good is God with an extra "o".

Evil is restricted to the flesh and the lusts of the flesh and only in the flesh can evil deeds exist.
Evil is generated in the hearts of souls in the flesh who do not exercise any Godly/good values.

If we understand that, when we read in the scriptures, that God brought evil upon........is giving us in our own understanding what it looks like when God intervenes in the lives of mankind to correct issues pertinent to the good of mankind.
Having an understanding of the goodness and the love of God us-word, will give us peace of mind.

Blessings, AJ
Then how do you explain my last post, herein copied again:
EVIL
That which results in pain, sorrow, or distress. In order to convey the correct thought in English, the very comprehensive Hebrew word raʽ is variously translated as “bad,” “gloomy,” “ugly,” “evil,” “calamitous,” “malignant,” “ungenerous,” and “envious,” depending upon the context. (Ge 2:9; 40:7; 41:3; Ex 33:4; De 6:22; 28:35; Pr 23:6; 28:22) The Greek word ka·kosʹ may be defined as that which is (1) morally evil and (2) destructive; among the ways it has been translated are: “bad,” “evil,” “hurtful,” “injurious,” “wrong.” (Ro 7:19; 12:17; Col 3:5; Tit 1:12; Heb 5:14) The Hebrew verb qa·lalʹ means “call down evil upon.”


The Meaning of Jehovah’s Bringing Evil.
Rightly, Jehovah brought evil or calamity upon Adam for his disobedience. Hence, in the Scriptures, Jehovah is referred to as the Creator of evil or calamity. (Isa 45:7; compare KJ.) His enforcing of the penalty for sin, namely, death, has proved to be an evil, or a calamity, for mankind. So, then, evil is not always synonymous with wrongdoing. Examples of evils or calamities created by Jehovah are the Flood of Noah’s day and the Ten Plagues visited upon Egypt. But these evils were not wrongs. Rather, the rightful administration of justice against wrongdoers was involved in both cases. However, at times Jehovah, in his mercy, has refrained from bringing the intended calamity or evil in execution of his righteous judgment because of the repentance on the part of those concerned. (Jon 3:10) Additionally, in having a warning given, Jehovah has undeservedly provided opportunities for the practicers of bad to change their course and thus to keep living.—Eze 33:11.

AND HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS COPIED FROM SKWIM'S POST?

Isaiah 45:7 (ASV)
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (BRG)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (DARBY)
7 forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil: I, Jehovah, do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (DRA)
7 I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (ERV)
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (GNV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (JUB)
7 I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am the LORD that does all this.

Isaiah 45:7 (KJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (AKJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (LEB)
7 I form light and I create darkness; I make peace and I create evil; I am Yahweh; I do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (WYC)
7 forming light, and making darknesses, making peace, and forming evil; I am the Lord, doing all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 (YLT)
7 Forming light, and preparing darkness, Making peace, and preparing evil, I [am] Jehovah, doing all these things.'
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Here is a word-for-word literal translation;

All do the Lord I am evil and create peace I make darkness and create the light I form these.

Again, that is each individual word directly & literally translated, without taking into account grammar & such.
Curious; do you have an on-line source for this
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Thanks,

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