psychoslice
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Why shouldn't we exist, its an impossible question, with an impossible answer, we are here and that is all that matters.
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Why Exist?
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Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
I came into being because my parents did the sham-bam-doobly in an elevator. That is the only reason behind my birth.
The reason behind my life is that there is none except that which I make for myself: in this case to help people using the sciences.
outhouse
Atheistically
Ya but BLT's are permitted in mine.
Acintya_Ash
Bhakta
No it isn't.I see necromancy is permitted in your religion.
Tumah
Veteran Member
It was a joke. You brought a dead thread back to life.
I do. But in the venue, most would scoff. I believe we have a purpose and I will leave it at that.
Well, I believe that it is answered.
Maitrayana Brahmaya upanishad
There is the person in the eye, there is he who walks as in sleep, he who is sound asleep, and he who is above the sleeper: these are the four conditions (of the Self), and the fourth is greater than all.
Brahman with one foot moves in the three, and Brahman with three feet is in the last.
It is that both the true (in the fourth condition) and the untrue (in the three conditions) may have their dessert, that the Great Self (seems to) become two, yes, that he (seems to) become two.
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In short, we need to answer first: Who exists?
Acintya_Ash
Bhakta
Namaste Atanu-Ji
Brahman alone exists. Still the 'why?' part of the question remains unanswered. Why would Brahman want to subject itself to Three states, which are but mithya?
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
We exist to delight in what God created, and to create more to delight him and each other, and that we may all delight in each other.
God made the children of God so that love may increase.
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly
Life is awesome -what other purpose could there possibly be?
However, that which will be infinitely enjoyable and awesome required a process of teaching us not to do that which causes the opposite -by experiencing the results of our ways.
God made the children of God so that love may increase.
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly
Life is awesome -what other purpose could there possibly be?
However, that which will be infinitely enjoyable and awesome required a process of teaching us not to do that which causes the opposite -by experiencing the results of our ways.
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
I'm not easily contemplating your riddle there. Who exists though? Well, we all exist I think. And so does the ground, and this door, and these cats and this computer. There must be a hidden law that great amounts of matter can be processed into existence from nothing. There simply has to be.
Namaste Achintya Ji
The Maitryana Brahmaya up. passage (post 167), in my understanding answers why the great Self exists as Transcendental Turiya and also in three phenomenal states of sleep, dream, and waking.
Further, to think that Brahman subjects itself to three states is a bit wrong, IMO. Does a story writer or a film director subject himself/herself to the pains and joys of the characters of a story/film?
In dream also we process ungraspable mental matter into great many things.
Marisa
Well-Known Member
"Why" is a pointless question. I exist because my parents had a sex.
I like this. I truly like it.
Probably, the Vedanta scripture puts it a bit differently. As per Vedanta, nothing is truly true other than Brahman-Godhead. So, the enjoyer of the transcendental unitive state (called the Turiya or the fourth) and variegated-multiform phenomenal states of dream and waking and the go-between deep sleep states are for its enjoyment .
FunctionalAtheist
Hammer of Reason
What do you mean by "why?"?
There are several causes which we could discuss to no end. I presume you mean what is the 'purpose' I exist? Is this correct?
By asking purpose, you are necessarily imposing subjectivity. Do you agree?
If my purpose is subjective, than it is necessarily the purpose of a sentient being. Do you agree?
If it is the the purpose of a sentient being, than it is either the purpose of a being other than myself (god if you care), or it is the purpose of myself. Do you agree?
If it is the purpose of a being other than myself, than you are wasting your time asking ME what my purpose of being is. Do you agree?
If it is my purpose, than it is whatever the hell I decide it is. Do you agree?
Profound. Lol.
(The above makes me ponder deeply though. I see cows, pigs and monkeys have sex. Why was I not born as a pig or a cow?? Chance? )
FunctionalAtheist
Hammer of Reason
Because your parents aren't pigs! I assume.
'Why?' is not answered but.
Unification
Well-Known Member
Higher intelligence and evolution.
To experience the eternal ride of being conscious.
A combination of my own will and a will not of my own. To love and to spread truth.
Acintya_Ash
Bhakta
Certainly he won't. The case here is Brahman is all that exists, so Brahman must be dreaming?