Bird123
Well-Known Member
Let's not make things so complicated on this one. The answer is simple. Life is the education of God's children. Why does God have children??? Just like all parents know, God knows that kids make life Grand!!
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Why Exist?
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St Giordano Bruno
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We exist for the simple reason we cannot be aware of not existing such as not been born or being dead. It is only through the condition of existence we have any perception of time because there was something in the order of 13.7 billion years of time that elapsed between the big bang and one's birth and unless you were well informed through scientific testing and observation of the universe you would have absolutely no idea of knowing intuitively if the time before one's birth was just a few years to billions of years.
waitasec
Veteran Member
impressive.
Of course. But these answers seem not to be from genuine enquiry of "Whence this I?" These answers are from book or from faith.
Thank you for this answer. I have a further query, at what point the thought, intelligent or not, develops?
At the point it develops.
I think there is more to your question, though I dont know along what line your thinking.
Which is that? To me it is in present. I am aware and i can enquire about past and future. But the result of enquiry cannot falsify that "I am an aware being who is enquiring".
Yes. If a living being was just a body that resulted from sexual congress and if that body is the sole source of the awareness then art, science and culture have no real meaning. If awareness was a materail product then, how it is beyond the causal determinism and in that case, whatever magic the materials want us to believe we have no choice but to believe. And in such a case, how one determines what is truth? How my theory is any better than your theory?
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
This looks like a non-sequitor to me.
This looks like a non-sequitor to me.
Surely as expected. When the 'me' is just a product of software or just a product of inert mindless materials, then non sequitor is all we have.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
That question is a bit more complex than the op question...'why exist?'.
My post was more to the creation of Man as a means to mold of clay....
fresh spirit and perspective.
Your last question is more like the occasion described in Job.
Well, everything that happens is always in the present. The statement 'I am an aware being who is enquiring' is not necessarily true, as I see it. Consciousness/awareness may be just that. Our thoughts may be separate from our consciousness, as can our decisions and enquiries, etc. So, in this case, I may be aware that 839311's mind is making an enquiry, but I may not have any control over it.
*I did an extensive edit of this part so too bad if you read the first part cause Im retracting it!
I think I understand what your trying to say. If determinism is correct then everything we do is destined. Sure, its possible. Personally, I think its likely that it is true. Determinism is a very important part of my understanding.
In terms of determinism, we just have to hope that our minds are up to it lol.
Some things are still better than others. For example, if a theory is known to be true then it is better than a theory that is known to be false.
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heretic
Heretic Knight
I think the question should be answered by all those who has the main roles in one's existence . God , parents , myself
Talking on my parents side , I think having children is one of the life enjoys , parenting is an instinct and inner need inside everyone , if not on children may be on pets.
From God side , I think he created humanity because he wanted to love and to be loved and interested in, to parent and taking care of people, its God's essence to practice love and parenting, but gave us the free will and mind to choose it ourselves , and let us define what each individual purpose in life.
My purpose in life is to live with all who I love , build my own relationship with God.
And enjoy the seeking for him.
Talking on my parents side , I think having children is one of the life enjoys , parenting is an instinct and inner need inside everyone , if not on children may be on pets.
From God side , I think he created humanity because he wanted to love and to be loved and interested in, to parent and taking care of people, its God's essence to practice love and parenting, but gave us the free will and mind to choose it ourselves , and let us define what each individual purpose in life.
My purpose in life is to live with all who I love , build my own relationship with God.
And enjoy the seeking for him.
swamplizard
Human
Do I have a choice to exist? If so, then I want to; if not, then I'm supposed to. And, therein sways the purpose.
best,
swampy
best,
swampy
I agree. But why want to?
IMO, this is a good post, which recognises different levels. But when i drill into it, i find that the intention is the same: To enjoy. In case of humans, the enjoyment seems to come in on-off states and that causes pain.
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waitasec
Veteran Member
is there a choice?
The premise stated was "If so,..."
