firedragon
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So your "sufficient reasoning" is "I just prefer my path"? That's "sufficient reasoning"?
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Why I don't accept Christian or Muslim Faith
- Thread starter The Hammer
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Yeah
It needn't anything else imo. Is it giving that person the spiritual benefits they are searching for/need? If so, it's right for them.
You disagree?
firedragon
Veteran Member
Well that maybe your subjective truth. I prefer trying to reach an objective truth. So for me "I prefer this so it's the objective truth" is a contradictory and absurd epistemic stance.
You don't get to determine what is or is not subjective. Vs objective about my faith. Just like I wouldn't yours. Thanks for playing.
What I believe is AN objective truth, as there is no single Truth.
Again. Thanks for playing.
Edited for spelling
firedragon
Veteran Member
That's true. No one get's to determine it. But it's fact when someone says something like "this is what I like so it's got to be true".
Not true whatsoever. For an objective truth, you have to prove it's objective. You are saying it's subjective in other words but are claiming it's objective. That's a contradiction.
Anyway brother, I will withdraw from this conversation because it's gonna be circular. Have a great day.
And you will be unable to prove your views are objective.
If you want to try, @mikkel_the_dane will probably talk the philosophical implications with you.
Me? As you've noticed I don't care to prove myself right.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Yeah it is. Glad you noticed.
Like I said, if that's the game you want to play (philosophical objectivism), there are players here such as Mikkel.
I'm not going to expense my energy on a pursuit that serves no purpose.
Good day.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe there is one path (way) that leads to eternal life and all the other paths lead to Hell.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe there is no hypocrisy.
I believe if one is speaking of the only God with omnipotence then that is YHVH. All the other gods only have limited power.
Muffled
Jesus in me
How many gods do you know of who have died on a cross? Most of the mythical gods treat people like dirt.
Who cares? Obviously you, but most of us don't. Dying on a cross is nothing special.
We are dirt to the Gods.
I'm glad.
That's good that that works for you. The other 7 billion of us have other plans.
"Gods who have been depicted as dying on a cross include:
Thulis of Egypt
Krishna of India
Crite of Chaldea
Atys of Phrygia
Thammuz or Tammuz of Syria
Hesus or Eros
Bali of Orissa
Indra of Thibet
Iao of Nepaul
Buddha Sakia (Muni)
of India
Mitra (Mithra) of Persia, 600 B.C.
Alcestos of Euripides, 600 B.C.
Quezalcoatl of Mexico, 587 B.C.
Wittoba of the Bilingonese, 552 B.C.[11]
Prometheus or Æschylus of Caucasus, 547 B.C.
Quirinus of Rome, 506 B.C "
The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors - Wikipedia
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Other holy figures who took the form of men and then ascended into heaven, including:
Salivahana of Bermuda
Zulis or Zhule of Egypt[12]
Osiris of Egypt
Oru of Egypt
Odin of the Scandinavians
Zoroaster of Persia
Baal of Phoenicia
Taut, "the only Begotten of God" of Phoenicia, inventor of letters[13]
Bali of Afghanistan
Xamolxis (Zalmoxis) of Thrace
Zoar of the Bonzes
Adad of Assyria
Deva Tat of Siam (Thailand)
Sammonocadam (Sommona-Codom) of Siam (Thailand)[14]
Alcides of Thebes
Mikado of the Sintoos
Beddru of Japan
Bremrillah of the Druids[15]
Thor son of Odin of the Gauls/Norse
Cadmus of Greece
Hil/Feta of the Mandaites[16]
Gentaut of Mexico[17]
Universal Monarch of the Sibyls
Ischy of Formosa (Taiwan)[18]
Divine Teacher of Plato
Holy One of Xaca[19]
(Fohi) of China
Tien of China
Adonis son of the virgin Io of Greece
Ixion of Rome
Mohamud or Mahomet of Arabia
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Well, zero, I believe. I also don't believe in the divinity of Jesus; just a guy in my belief. So, none.
There are some cruel deities(it could be argued that pieces of Old Testament could be seen as cruel). There are also some loving and benevolent ones.
How many deities outside of your own paradigm do you know?
ETA: I see @The Hammer knows some!
firedragon
Veteran Member
Good day.
firedragon
Veteran Member
This is the epitome of whataboutary.
Rather than engaging in whataboutary, who don't you ask for specific evidence(s)?
Because that kind of language would be unnatural and out of character for me.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Call me a wuss, but I gotta say it would put a dampener on my day.
I guess I could of specified I meant mythically