Why I'm Not A "Feminist"

[Revoltingest]

I speculate it's some kind of profiling.
You aren't the type to be fishing for vulnerabilities to attack.

 

[oldbadger]

Yes & yes.
She opens doors for me too, btw.

....good...... Quote good.

how do you feel about a female president? I mean president of the USA, not your local bowling club, of course.

 

[Revoltingest]

....good...... Quote good.

how do you feel about a female president? I mean president of the USA, not your local bowling club, of course.

Gender is irrelevant.
The Libertarian Party ran a female VP candidate before G Ferraro ran as a Dem.
I'm all about ideology & competence (in that order).

 

[oldbadger]

You aren't the type to be fishing for vulnerabilities to attack.

.....and there's me, thinking i was all deadly and stuff.

right, I'm putting your answers into the computer, and will advise you of your results by return.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oooooo....I love tests.
I actually looked forward to tests in school. I never worried how well I did, cuz it was always
(almost) good enuf. The results will be what they will be. Tests were like a sporting contest,
& there was a finality to the subject matter, ie, we'd next move onto new stuff.

 

[oldbadger]

now you understand that this is not me speaking? I am simply the messenger. Don't shoot the messenger, not with bow or muzzleloader.

oh shucks..... It doesn't look good.
it says here that you are a closet feminist with fundamentalist tendencies.

don't shoot the messenger!

 

[Revoltingest]

now you understand that this is not me speaking? I am simply the messenger. Don't shoot the messenger, not with bow or muzzleloader.

oh shucks..... It doesn't look good.
it says here that you are a closet feminist with fundamentalist tendencies.

don't shoot the messenger!

Meh....I am what I am, & test results don't change anything.
Another test deemed me a feminist.
I just don't identify as one, primarily because of the sub-culture of the movement.
I also don't identify as a MRA, but because it seems too narrow a focus (applicable to feminism too).
Is there an identifiable MRA sub-culture? If there is, I haven't seen it.
So I'm either "libertarian" or "liberal" (classical/Jeffersonian).

 

[oldbadger]

Meh....I am what I am, & test results don't change anything.
Another test deemed me a feminist.
I just don't identify as one, primarily because of the sub-culture of the movement.
I also don't identify as a MRA, but because it seems too narrow a focus (applicable to feminism too).
Is there an identifiable MRA sub-culture? If there is, I haven't seen it.
So I'm either "libertarian" or "liberal" (classical/Jeffersonian).

excuse me biggering about.
its just that if you would declare yourself yo be an egalitarian you would save yourself from loads of debate, whilst still supporting equality issues and policies.

 

[oldbadger]

what is an mra?

 

[Revoltingest]

excuse me biggering about.
its just that if you would declare yourself yo be an egalitarian you would save yourself from loads of debate, whilst still supporting equality issues and policies.

Avoiding debate...what fun is that?

 

[columbus]

excuse me biggering about.
its just that if you would declare yourself yo be an egalitarian you would save yourself from loads of debate, whilst still supporting equality issues and policies.

How is that substantially different from the OP?

I can totally sympathise with not wanting to be associated with the craziest radicals in any movement. I can oppose things like racism or environmental irresponsibility while distancing myself from some of the other people who also do.

Tom

 

[Robert.Evans]

So, we have a member who is saying women shouldn't be doing this and women shouldn't be doing that.

We have another member who is continuing to challenge that notion.

Suddenly the member who has been challenging the strict gender roles is being talked about for his gender identity, and if he is being too offensive? Why is his gender identity and if he's being too offensive to Muslims suddenly more important than what the first member has been saying?

Why the pussyfooting around the opinion that strict gender roles is the way to go (which also has repeatedly mentioned that women not fulfilling their roles is the reason why people murder)?

"pussyfooting around" eh, I never could work out why all the hugs and kisses at the end of your pages

 

[Robert.Evans]

I'm wondering why Frank needs to tone down the offensiveness for a single statement when Robert's comments have repeatedly been offensive to women and trans men with nary a blink.

My previous post gave supporting details for my question here.

Show where my comments are offensive to women. link.

 

[Debater Slayer]

It is not blocked!

People are never persecuted in Saudi Arabia simply for what or who they are, they are only convicted for practically breaking laws only!

If someone is a homosexual, and they even tell everyone here that they are, they don't get bothered. Noting takes place unless the act of having a sex among them, which is against the law, is done and eye-witnessed, and by the law. Don't break the law, you live like anyone else here, something universal!

Non Muslims roam Saudi Arabia all the time and no one tells them any thing!

Please don't be fooled by the media of what others tell you!

But anyway, the main argument was not the above, but this:


Don't get me wrong, I'm not holding anything against you, I only wanted to be honest with a friend!

Are you sure you are talking about the Saudi Arabia on this planet, SG?

 

[Robert.Evans]

Are you sure you are talking about the Saudi Arabia on this planet, SG?

yes he is

 

[Debater Slayer]

yes he is

Then what I read is dead wrong. And yes, people shouldn't believe the media on everything; they should try living there and seeing that, when it comes to certain issues, the media's portrayal can actually be tamer than the real thing.

 

[oldbadger]

How is that substantially different from the OP?
Tom

hi....
in the uk we are more eggie than femmie, so our legislation supports gender equality plus wider ranging support for people in general. This includes protection from age. Disability, ethnic, colour, racial discrimination and revognises that males need consideration as well. Last year insurers were banned from offering females preferencial rates, for instance.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Show where my comments are offensive to women. link.

You didn't ask nicely. Say "please."

 

[Debater Slayer]

Show where my comments are offensive to women. link.

I think it would be more realistic to ask where your comments are not offensive in this thread. You have made bigoted comments about women and transgendered people, and your insistence that there is some sort of anti-male "feminine" conspiracy reeks of desperation and insecurity. If that's not offensive, then I don't know what is.

 

[Debater Slayer]

So, we have a member who is saying women shouldn't be doing this and women shouldn't be doing that.

We have another member who is continuing to challenge that notion.

Suddenly the member who has been challenging the strict gender roles is being talked about for his gender identity, and if he is being too offensive? Why is his gender identity and if he's being too offensive to Muslims suddenly more important than what the first member has been saying?

Why the pussyfooting around the opinion that strict gender roles is the way to go (which also has repeatedly mentioned that women not fulfilling their roles is the reason why people murder)?

It seems that some people value political correctness more than accuracy. It's a tendency that is unfortunately all too common, which is why I think people like the "Four Horsemen" are frequently criticized for being so blunt and straightforward about their criticism of certain cultures and their beliefs.