IndigoChild
Member
Given that babies have been shown to masturbate in the womb, and little kids masturbate and "play doctor" with each other, your statement is rendered false.nonda said:
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Why is being gay considered wrong?
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Kat
IndigoChild
Member
The argument that "it is not natural" is always completely stupid, because in the first place, there is nothing humans do that doesn't happen in nature somewhere. Secondly, if it wasn't natural, how could it be done? When all of the universe is nature, how can anything be unnatural?Kowalski said:
Kat
Mike182
Flaming Queer
oh, i see, so us gay sheep are unnatural phenominons from early in our creation inside the womb because our mothers were hormonally unballanced - how nice of you to say soSeyorni said:
do you have the evidence to support the claim that homosexuality stems from the balance of hormones in early pregnancy? i wasnt aware that there was any such theory, but if there is then please feel free to expand
i have not read enough about freud's work on homosexuality to safely evaluate him and still look like i know what im talking about - does anyoen have any web addresses for a simple overview of his work? would really appreciate it
C_P
Ori
Angel slayer
IndigoChild
Member
One exception to that: I have yet to see a Native American man who needed to shave. They are naturally beardless, methinks. (I could be wrong, though.)Seyorni said:
Kat
IndigoChild
Member
I am not an atheist, but I have a reply to that for atheists:orichalcum said:
Nietzche : God is dead
God : Nietzche is dead
Nietzche: I am, that's how I know.
Kat
corrupt_preist said:oh, i see, so us gay sheep are unnatural phenominons from early in our creation inside the womb because our mothers were hormonally unballanced - how nice of you to say so
do you have the evidence to support the claim that homosexuality stems from the balance of hormones in early pregnancy? i wasnt aware that there was any such theory, but if there is then please feel free to expand
i have not read enough about freud's work on homosexuality to safely evaluate him and still look like i know what im talking about - does anyoen have any web addresses for a simple overview of his work? would really appreciate it
C_P
http://www.essays.cc/free_essays/g2/mrh174.shtml
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/kis/schools/hums/philosophy/handouts/hopkins/irrationality.pdf
http://www.freeessays.tv/c3181.htm
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/kis/schools/hums/philosophy/handouts/hopkins/irrationality.pdf
http://www.freeessays.tv/c3181.htm
and http://www.bris.ac.uk/english/undergraduate/current/year3/special-subject-units/freud-shake.html
Extract from the last site :"Freud is essentially prosified Shakespeare: Freuds vision of human psychology is derived, not altogether unconsciously from his reading of the plays. The founder of psychoanalysis read Shakespeare in English throughout his life and recognized that Shakespeare was the greatest of writers."
An interesting view.........
Sorry, Priest. I certainly wasn't trying to insult ewe by implying that your mum wascorrupt_preist said:oh, i see, so us gay sheep are unnatural phenominons from early in our creation inside the womb because our mothers were hormonally unballanced - how nice of you to say so
do you have the evidence to support the claim that homosexuality stems from the balance of hormones in early pregnancy? i wasnt aware that there was any such theory, but if there is then please feel free to expand
C_P
unbalanced -- :biglaugh:
This gestational phenomenon has been known for a long time. I'm not claiming that 1st trimester hormonal changes are the cause of homosexuality. There could be a thousand causes. I'm just claiming that it's possible to effect adult sexual orientation in utero.
I'll try to find a reference for you.
Fluffy
A fool
I have to admit that I do find such a belief slightly odd. Science is racing forward faster during this time than at any previous period in history. Do you not think there is a high chance, as we understand more and more about the brain, mind and genes, that we will understand sexuality and relatively soon?
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nonda
Guest
And so is yours you have no proof of this, and might I say a little crude!IndigoChild said:
Jaymes
The cake is a lie
It is regrettable you find the facts of life crude.nonda said:
From the University of Michigan's website:
"How do children learn about masturbation? No one has to teach a child to explore his or her genitals. It provides a feeling of pleasure, that once discovered, the child will most likely repeat. There have even been studies of prenatal ultrasounds revealing male fetuses doing it.
Most often, however, boys find their penises accidentally, possibly during a diaper change around six to seven months of age and become curious (not unlike their fascination with other parts of their bodies, such as fingers, toes, ears, etc.)."
Ceridwen018
Well-Known Member
Actually, although it against God in the Bible, being gay is still allowed in this country because we are not a theocracy and never have been. As for the laws against it, their days are numbered.
Feathers in Hair
World's Tallest Hobbit
As a worshipper of the land itself, I'm very happy to report that it doesn't have any laws against such things. Only man would be so silly.enton said:
From:- http://www.catholic.com/library/Homosexuality.aspCeridwen018 said:
..............."Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out. People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they act upon those desires in some manner".......... (Extract)
Which basically means that if someone is homosexual, as long as they are celibate, they are not sinning..........Which, though it sounds hard, is what the Catholic church dictates.
As far as I am concerned, I cannot understand how God would expect such demands from 'one of his children' - it seems like a dreadful cross to bear.
michel said:Which basically means that if someone is homosexual, as long as they are celibate, they are not sinning..........Which, though it sounds hard, is what the Catholic church dictates.
As far as I am concerned, I cannot understand how God would expect such demands from 'one of his children' - it seems like a dreadful cross to bear.
well, of course... what person is going to care about the burden of another if they think that burden of the other keeps their own life more simple. People want to be sheep.
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