Why is evolution even still a debate?

[YoursTrue]

Huh??

More like hope I wake up on the morning. Hope my kids and grandkids are happy. Hope this new war ends. Hope etc.

Not hope a god or heaven exist.

What I find interesting is that the writings from the nation of Israel prior to the 1st century C.E. are there. They describe a unique and ongoing relationship with their God, the one who directed Moses and the prophets to write about their encounters and history.

 

[F1fan]

I see evidence for God in nature every day.

You see evidence for God in nature, but don't see evidence for evolution (even though experts in biology do) so this suggests your ability to assess evidence is very poor.

 

[We Never Know]

What I find interesting is that the writings from the nation of Israel prior to the 1st century C.E. are there. They describe a unique and ongoing relationship with their God, the one who directed Moses and the prophets to write about their encounters and history.

Question..

Do you think that every species that is living today(or has lived) was on Noah's ark or did they evolve from other species?

Keep in mind fresh water species can't live in salt water and salt water species can't live in fresh water.

 

[We Never Know]

Let me clarify.....

Anyone can accept what they choose. I am not trying to convince anyone in anyway of anything. I'm just discussing.

 

[F1fan]

I don't think the evidence for "natural selection" and "survival of the fittest" is really there. Despite fossils. Fossils are there. But the extrapolation from fossil finds to figuring these were genetically induced by natural forces with the branches of the tree of life re: evolution no longer adds up to me. Until there is proof, I no longer agree with what is termed as the Theory of Evolution. I believe what the Bible says. That God created the heavens and the earth. One of the big reasons I do not believe in evoluition any more is that there is no proof. That which is called evidence is not proving that the theory is true.

This illustrates how religion can be a negative influence on the lives of those who believe it literally, and lack to education and reasoning tools to understand the full depth and extent of both science and the religious claims. There is no rational reason to decide evolution is wrong. That believers admit their position should be a reason to be embarrassed.

 

[YoursTrue]

It's actually not. We've found, studied, and analyzed many of these other critters. The fact we share similar DNA with life as widely varied as dogs and daffodils also further reduces the ability to seriously challenge and debate evolution...

The fact, or idea that we as living beings share similar dna no longer proves to me the theory as accepted by most. Since we didn't see it, our life timespans are short, we really do not know it as everything evolved, or came about, from a circumstance making the growth, or evolving possible, and that basically without a cogent coherent purpose of enjoying life on this planet. Now when the Bible says that "The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
The lion will eat straw just like the bull,
And the serpent’s food will be dust.
They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain, says Jehovah,"
I have no reason not to believe it. So I do put my faith and confidence in what seems apparent to me, comparing my faith both with what the Bible says and reality. (Isaiah 65.)

 

[We Never Know]

The fact, or idea that we as living beings share similar dna no longer proves to me the theory as accepted by most. Since we didn't see it, our life timespans are short, we really do not know it as everything evolved, or came about, from a circumstance making the growth, or evolving possible, and that basically without a cogent coherent purpose of enjoying life on this planet. Now when the Bible says that "The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
The lion will eat straw just like the bull,
And the serpent’s food will be dust.
They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain, says Jehovah,"
I have no reason not to believe it. So I do put my faith and confidence in what seems apparent to me, comparing my faith both with what the Bible says and reality. (Isaiah 65.)

May I ask where do you think.the multi-millions of species came from?
Created or evolved?

 

[YoursTrue]

And I will put forth that my oldest daughter is christian and very religious. She believes in the bible, god, heaven and hell.

The only time I butt heads with her and her husband is when they speak of the man comes first, the woman comes second and the children come third.

I tell them BS! The children should be first.

I have learned that the (real Biblical) concept of hell is not as many churches see it. Of course others will argue with that, but it makes sense to me that the "rich man in Hades" is a parable and not where there is an afterlife forever of a person suffering like that. But anyway -- onward.

 

[Brian2]

Evidence from biology, paleontology, geology, archaeology, zoology, cosmology(if you want to talk about the universe too), etc has an over abundance of evidence.

The other side has the bible and stories of the past.

I'm not saying any god(s) do or do not exit. Heck maybe they do and one created life as a science experiment to see how it would turn out.

The whole evolution vs creation argument breeds hate and distrust world wide

That's my thoughts anyways.

For those versed in evolution theory there is no debate imo.
The debate really is whether God created everything. This is not a debate with any science however.

 

[We Never Know]

I have learned that the (real Biblical) concept of hell is not as many churches see it. Of course others will argue with that, but it makes sense to me that the "rich man in Hades" is a parable and not where there is an afterlife forever of a person suffering like that. But anyway -- onward.

What if earth is hell and death is the only escape?

 

[We Never Know]

For those versed in evolution theory there is no debate imo.
The debate really is whether God created everything. This is not a debate with any science however.

I think the debate should be "does a god exist and if a god does exist, did it have anything to do with our universe and life"

No one knows. Debate over

 

[F1fan]

The fact, or idea that we as living beings share similar dna no longer proves to me the theory as accepted by most. Since we didn't see it, our life timespans are short, we really do not know it as everything evolved, or came about, from a circumstance making the growth, or evolving possible, and that basically without a cogent coherent purpose of enjoying life on this planet.

Yet there is ample lines of cross verifying evidence that shows life changed obvert time in observable patterns.

Basically you're saying that since we weren't alive to see the Declaration of Independence signed perhaps it didn't happen. Sure, there's a signed document but that doesn't prove anything. Documents are made and signed all the time. If we don't see it we don't know when they were made and signed.

Of course this is just a simplistic excuse to reject science that experts have worked hard to reveal.

The true answer is found here:

Now when the Bible says that "The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
The lion will eat straw just like the bull,
And the serpent’s food will be dust.
They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain, says Jehovah,"
I have no reason not to believe it. So I do put my faith and confidence in what seems apparent to me, comparing my faith both with what the Bible says and reality. (Isaiah 65.)

You prefer a religious view because you are emotionally tied to it, not because there is evidence and a coherent explanation of facts.

 

[F1fan]

For those versed in evolution theory there is no debate imo.
The debate really is whether God created everything. This is not a debate with any science however.

Demonstrate a God exists. Demonstrate it created anything. Demonstrate how it made something from nothing.

If the religious can't offer any factual results, then we are left with science.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

evolution is a theory, to become a law it must be duplicated in the laboratory

From my point of view, you are just a theory. If we can't dupllicate you in a laboratory, can I suppose that you don't exist?

 

[YoursTrue]

May I ask where do you think.the multi-millions of species came from?
Created or evolved?

I think it's easier to answer what I don't believe before I answer as to what I do believe. I don't believe that God created mutations, although they're there. Now when I say mutations I mean debilitating mutations. I understand the reasoning behind the idea that organisms keep multiplying and environment may force one type of moth, for example, to multiply and duplicate a particular group. But that does not mean that I accept the idea that dinosaurs, for instance, became birds. Since I believe what the Bible says, there are different kinds of organisms. Interestingly, the Bible writer even explained that the type of flesh of one organism is different from another. So while I personally don't know how God did it, I no longer accept the theory of evolution, as if it happened that survival of the fittest, or natural selection is the making of evolving organisms. I do not find it unbelievable now that God is responsible for the life we have. The more I look, the more interesting it becomes to 'see' life, how it works. I was reading, for instance, about "zombie crabs." They are just beginning to be studied. Exactly how these things came about, I can't say and frankly, I don't think anyone can say either. Therefore, I attribute many things to the genius, or creation by God. When I say creation, I can also mean the prime force or mover of life.

 

[YoursTrue]

From my point of view, you are just a theory. If we can't dupllicate you in a laboratory, can I suppose that you don't exist?

Interestingly, even parents don't really duplicate themselves.

 

[We Never Know]

Demonstrate a God exists. Demonstrate it created anything. Demonstrate how it made something from nothing.

If the religious can't offer any factual results, then we are left with science.

Does anything exist above what we naturally know? Does life exist on a planet 95 million light years away?

We don't know if it does or doesn't.

Therefore we cannot show evidence for anything we don't know and asking for evidence of what isn't known is pointless.

 

[We Never Know]

Interestingly, even parents don't really duplicate themselves.

They create a half and half

 

[cataway]

all any can do is reproduce according to its kind . thinking its a Law

 

[We Never Know]

all any can do is reproduce according to its kind . thinking its a Law

Kind. Define kind. Do you mean species?