Why is god identified as a "he"???

[Storm]

I am not sexist. I believe in the order which God ordained. There is Jesus, then Man, then Woman (1 Corinthians 11:3). God created Adam first, and gave him "kingship" over the earth.

I do not view women as inferior to man, i do not view men as being better than women. I treat women as the most precious gift God ever gave, they are the beauty of heaven, they are lovely and must be treated as Queens. I beleive in a King-Queen relationship. Although the King is the Head, the highest in Order. The Queen is his wife, not being treated as inferior, but yet being second in highest order.

Second highest (best) = inferior to the highest. And by the way, according to the order you gave, we're not even second, but third. Men are second - to Jesus. Do you want to argue that that doesn't mean you're inferior to Him? Also, to view us as a gift, "precious" or otherwise first requires that you view us as objects which can BE given regardless of our own wishes.

That's sexist. Cope.

 

[Storm]

I never got why people try to plug gender into the "own image" thing. If Adam was a tall brown-haired man with a beard and freckles, does that mean God is a tall brown-haired man with a beard and freckles? And as a result people with no freckles are not "made in God's image"? Of course not.

They're also ignoring the "male and female He created them."

 

[lilithu]

Does origin matter? Paper was wood once and crayon, well I don't know what crayons are made of. Wax?

My point is that the medium through which someone uses to create has its own limitations, and it would be a mistake to necessarily attribute those limitations to the creator. If I choose to draw my own image with crayon on paper, that does not mean that I am made out of crayon and paper. But some other aspects of the image may indeed be representative of me. God made Adam out of dust, and perhaps it is a limitation of Adam being a physical being that we necessarily view him as gendered. That doesn't mean that God is necessarily gendered, even tho other aspects of Adam may indeed be representative of God. Why focus on the maleness rather than Adam's capacity for love?

I don't follow you.

I'm saying that what you want is a purely factual account (or at least the resemblance of such), as opposed to a story, rich in meaning.

 

[cardero]

It's not fair really, half the world is female so that sort of means there is a male god who made females for male entertainment, i think we need to get rid of the he and start saying "it" For no-one knows the gender of god, no mattter what any scripture says.:shout *IT*

Dear GOD,
Yo! What's up dude? – Abbycat

Abbycat, what makes YOU think that I AM not a "dudette?"

HELLO IT’S ME: An Interview With GOD
Chapter: Dear GOD
Pg: 213

 

[kadzbiz]

.....I'm saying that what you want is a purely factual account (or at least the resemblance of such), as opposed to a story, rich in meaning.

Please don't pressume you know what I want Lilithu.

I've read many meaningful books and stories, but that doesn't mean that I have to believe in the protagonist.

 

[lilithu]

Please don't pressume you know what I want Lilithu.

I've read many meaningful books and stories, but that doesn't mean that I have to believe in the protagonist.

I'm just going by what you wrote:

2. So you're saying that Adam was androgenous or without sexual organs? So after Adam had his rib taken from him, he then noticed his appendage hanging between his legs too?

(Talk like this is why I find the whole Bible hard to swallow)

It may be that you have read many books and stories but it seems that when it comes to the bible, what you want is a factual, literal account.

 

[kadzbiz]

......It may be that you have read many books and stories but it seems that when it comes to the bible, what you want is a factual, literal account.

It would certainly make things a lot easier.

 

[Darkness]

Didn't.

I know

So basically, you could worship your own sense of beauty?

I never said that, nor was I being completely serious.

God is a spirit. When the Bible says we were created in his image it could be referring to more than two things, but I will list two

1) We were created in the Image of the Voice of God.

2) We were created in the image of God's Spiritual nature

Since I do not even believe God exists, God is merely a human myth to me. All of the books which make up the Book we call the Bible were not written by the same authors. Ergo, it is not surprising to me that YHWH (God) is very human in the Old Testament. YHWH is a different God than the God of the New Testament. The latter acts a lot more spiritual and not as tribal.

I do not view women as inferior to man, i do not view men as being better than women. I treat women as the most precious gift God ever gave, they are the beauty of heaven, they are lovely and must be treated as Queens.

Allow me to break this down for you. To say that women are second in line to men is clearly sexist. No matter what the woman does, no matter how much she has overcome, no matter how much she has evolved as a person, she will never be worthy to be over a man. Cry "I am not sexist" all you want, it won't change anything. You can say you love women and maybe you do (that is not for me to judge), but you will always view them as unworthy of being your equal.

 

[Popeyesays]

"The sixth principle of Bahá'u'lláh regards the equality of men and women. The male and female of the human kingdom are equal before God. God is no respecter of gender. Whosoever practices more faith, whosoever practices more humanitarianism is nearer to God; but between the male and female there is no innate difference because they share in common all the faculties. The world of humanity has two wings, one the male; the other the female. When both wings are reinforced with the same impulse the bird will be enabled to wing its flight heavenward to the summit of progress. Woman must be given the same opportunities as man for perfecting herself in the attainments of learning, science and arts. God has created the man and the woman equal, why should she be deprived of exercising the fullest opportunities afforded by life? Why should we ever raise the question of superiority and inferiority? In the animal kingdom the male and female enjoy suffrage and in the vegetable kingdom the plants all enjoy equal suffrage. In the human kingdom, which claims to be the realm of brotherhood and solidarity, why should we raise this question?"
(Compilations, Baha'i Scriptures, p. 277)

 

[athanasius]

Why is god identified as a "he"???

Because God is superior to all and women are inferior to Men!!!!! LOL!!!

 

[Callmepaul]

Not all Christian churches are hung up on the concept that God (who is spirit by the way) must be viewed as a male figure. The below is taken from the UCC website.

1995: Singing a new song:
The United Church of Christ publishes The New Century Hymnal—the only hymnal released by a Christian church that honors in equal measure both male and female images of God. Although its poetry is contemporary, its theology is traditional. "We acknowledge the limitations of our words while we confess that in Jesus Christ the Word of God became flesh and lived within history," writes Thomas Dipko, a UCC executive who played a key role in shaping the new hymnal.

 

[athanasius]

Not all Christian churches are hung up on the concept that God (who is spirit by the way) must be viewed as a male figure.

I guess you think Jesus was a women. And I guess Jesus was wrong when he told us to call God Our Father. Darn Jesus, you were a women, You should have known better!! How dare you be repressive to the liberal feminist. LOL!

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I guess you think Jesus was a women. And I guess Jesus was wrong when he told us to call God Our Father. Darn Jesus, you were a women, You should have known better!! How dare you be repressive to the liberal feminist. LOL!

If Jesus and God were women, would that change your spiritual outlook?

 

[athanasius]

If Jesus and God were women, would that change your spiritual outlook?

No how could it. But we all know that the Father has no gender and that Jesus is a male human.

 

[lilithu]

Not all Christian churches are hung up on the concept that God (who is spirit by the way) must be viewed as a male figure. The below is taken from the UCC website.

1995: Singing a new song:
The United Church of Christ publishes The New Century Hymnal—the only hymnal released by a Christian church that honors in equal measure both male and female images of God. Although its poetry is contemporary, its theology is traditional. "We acknowledge the limitations of our words while we confess that in Jesus Christ the Word of God became flesh and lived within history," writes Thomas Dipko, a UCC executive who played a key role in shaping the new hymnal.

Are you UCC?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

No how could it. But we all know that the Father has no gender and that Jesus is a male human.

Hm...okay.

Sorry, your posts led me to believe otherwise. Do you think gender is important in spiritual figures?

 

[athanasius]

Hm...okay.

Sorry, your posts led me to believe otherwise. Do you think gender is important in spiritual figures?

Hmm I believe it is only in the matter of roles and not equality.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Hmm I believe it is only in the matter of roles and not equality.

Interesting!

Are gender roles innate?

 

[athanasius]

Interesting!

Are gender roles innate?

What does innate mean?

 

[Darkness]

[QUOTE="athanasius']What does innate mean?[/QUOTE]

Native; Inherent

You could use one of the many online dictionaries, you know.