Why is pleasure bad according to any religion you belong to?

[Maninthemiddle]

pleasure is not inherently bad in religions. Different religious traditions have different perspectives on pleasure, and the way it is viewed and understood can vary greatly. However, some religious teachings do caution against excessive or indulgent pleasure-seeking, as they believe it can lead to negative consequences or distract individuals from their spiritual paths.

 

[ppp]

pleasure is not inherently bad in religions. Different religious traditions have different perspectives on pleasure, and the way it is viewed and understood can vary greatly. However, some religious teachings do caution against excessive or indulgent pleasure-seeking, as they believe it can lead to negative consequences or distract individuals from their spiritual paths.

They call the forms of pleasure that they consider to be inherently bad names - such as "indulgent" or "excessive". And as for purported evidence, they find or create anecdotes that support such name calling, while ignoring everything that refutes it.

 

[RestlessSoul]

They call the forms of pleasure that they consider to be inherently bad names - such as "indulgent" or "excessive". And as for purported evidence, they find or create anecdotes that support such name calling, while ignoring everything that refutes it.

Who are “they”?

 

[ppp]

Who are “they”?

In the context of the conversation, the pronoun "they" referred back to Maninthemiddle's "However, some religious teachings do caution against excessive or indulgent pleasure-seeking..." My point being that those labels "excessive" and "indulgent" are self-serving epithets and lies. Not that there cannot be excessive or indulgent pleasure seeking, but what I am saying is that the religious standards for gauging those activities are measured against doctrine, not reality. We see this from various subsects of the Abrahamic religions, Hinduism, and even Buddhists.

The religious based portrayal of activities as being wicked or threatening include (but are not limited to) bans on the ingestion of substances such as alcohol or caffeine; dancing, clothing, contra-doctrinal romantic relationships, contra-doctrinal sexual relationships, availability of education , availability of employment, and approved roles based on the randomness of genes and birth.

 

[ChieftheCef]

The religious based portrayal of activities as being wicked or threatening include (but are not limited to) bans on the ingestion of substances such as alcohol or caffeine; dancing, clothing, contra-doctrinal romantic relationships, contra-doctrinal sexual relationships, availability of education , availability of employment, and approved roles based on the randomness of genes and birth.

See that's all terrible because I had been a very pleasure-filled meanie when I was 13-16, then a health nut at 19 and I became sick of living just to live. So I live with pleasures but also without so that I can stay healthy. Don't live just to live. That won't make you happy. And happiness is more important than health, in fact that's why health nuts are so tense. They're doing it wrong. You can kinda tell how much someone's happy/got their **** together by their tenseness.

 

[Muffled]

I've heard something before but can't even remember it

I believe there is no restriction on pleasure in general but there is a restriction on immoral acts that bring pleasure.

 

[Muffled]

Perhaps but I'm gathering reasons why pleasure is wrong so that I can show scientifically in my writings why that is not true according to the science. Too much pleasure can be bad.

I believe too much chocolate made me sick as a child. Now I can't afford enough to see if it still does.

 

[Muffled]

^^^^
This.

Attachment and craving create discontent. The experience of pleasure in itself is not a problem.

I believe trying to tell that to an OCD person won't work so well.

 

[ChieftheCef]

I believe too much chocolate made me sick as a child. Now I can't afford enough to see if it still does.

What did too little chocolate do?

 

[chinu]

Because pleasure sucks the energy which is required to experience ultimate truth.

 

[ppp]

Because pleasure sucks the energy which is required to experience ultimate truth.

Nuh uh.

 

[ChieftheCef]

Because pleasure sucks the energy which is required to experience ultimate truth.

Experience me ultimate truth if you could so I might have an understanding of it please.

 

[ChieftheCef]

What did too little chocolate do?

That's not meant to be taken as, "please, for me, eat more chocolate". It's just me making a point that the chocolate does something, too much of the chocolate does something else entirely dangerous.

 

[Viker]

There's nothing wrong with willful and temperate indulgence. Pleasure is a great thing. It's excessive attachment and obsession that destroys.

 

[Muffled]

What did too little chocolate do?

I believe I was young and would not have known the difference.

 

[Muffled]

Because pleasure sucks the energy which is required to experience ultimate truth.

I believe I am a person of balance being a Libra rising. I balancce my worldliness with my spiritualty. So you wont see me being an ascetic.

 

[Maninthemiddle]

In the context of the conversation, the pronoun "they" referred back to Maninthemiddle's "However, some religious teachings do caution against excessive or indulgent pleasure-seeking..." My point being that those labels "excessive" and "indulgent" are self-serving epithets and lies. Not that there cannot be excessive or indulgent pleasure seeking, but what I am saying is that the religious standards for gauging those activities are measured against doctrine, not reality. We see this from various subsects of the Abrahamic religions, Hinduism, and even Buddhists.

The religious based portrayal of activities as being wicked or threatening include (but are not limited to) bans on the ingestion of substances such as alcohol or caffeine; dancing, clothing, contra-doctrinal romantic relationships, contra-doctrinal sexual relationships, availability of education , availability of employment, and approved roles based on the randomness of genes and birth.

And if individuals decide for themselves what is the right and wrong way we will have chaos.
Where do you draw the line, that’s why we have laws many of which were derived from Religions.
We also have the freedom not to follow a Religion if it’s rules don’t suit an individual.

 

[ppp]

And if individuals decide for themselves what is the right and wrong way we will have chaos.

Bald assertion. No justification or supporting thought in evidence. Rejected.

Where do you draw the line,

At doctrines. Toss them in the midden.

that’s why we have laws many of which were derived from Religions.

We don't have laws that are derived from religions.

We also have the freedom not to follow a Religion if it’s rules don’t suit an individual

I don't see the relevance of this statement.ig you are going to reply please try to do so in something other than sound bites

 

[Trailblazer]

We don't have laws that are derived from religions.

What about the Ten Commandments?

 

[ppp]

What about the Ten Commandments?

If you have some thing to state, then state it