Frank Goad
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I have been getting into JESUS and the magic and psychic stuff from God
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Gospel, from the old Anglo-Saxon 'God-spell', meaning good news.And how do you imply to know what was said thousands of year's before your time if his words aren't gospel
It’s what is done in the pursuit of worldly “pleasures” that is “bad”; not pleasure itself.I've heard something before but can't even remember it
I'm sorry, sir, it was not success. Too little to be called success. Success is like Egypt or Mesopotamia or Athens or Rome or the Mongols or the United States. Freedom is what works with Nature, it's just Nature excentuating Nature with military. Other things like was normal back then clog up Nature and gum by going against what should be. In other words they do not integrate into Nature because they are not Nature. I can explain if you like.Gospel, from the old Anglo-Saxon 'God-spell', meaning good news.
The old laws are so brilliant that many are still written in modern day legislation, but they were not offering 'gospel' but a 'blueprint' for success, safety, health, strength and survival........... we are told that any people could have adopted these but that they failed because they did not.
And so a year off duties for newly weds could only be bliss for them.
Where I live, many of the old laws are reproduced in national and local legislation, those that are still in-date.
Again, sorry, sir, but that is an oversimplification of the truth. Earthy pleasures are required for wellbeing according to ScienceIt’s what is done in the pursuit of worldly “pleasures” that is “bad”; not pleasure itself.
It’s about where one’s focus ends up when one pursuits it (on self-interest, ambition, possession, etc.) and how blind to other things this makes one.
And, there's its addictive side, because -as worldly pleasures only quench one’s thirst momentarily- no amount of it is ever enough. Greed and single-mindedness is its long-term results.
Of course, many are those who can enjoy worldly pleasures and remain in harmony and balance with life, self and others - but not enough obviously, or else the world would not run as it does.
Humbly,
Hermit
That is not to say over indulge or nduldge in anything you shouldn't but earthly pleasures are required to live a full happy life. You can forgo some, certainly, but all or too many? Nah.Again, sorry, sir, but that is an oversimplification of the truth. Earthy pleasures are required for wellbeing according to Science
Your reply to me is off topic. The question posed in thread is why pleasure is a “bad” thing according to [a] religion - not science.Again, sorry, sir, but that is an oversimplification of the truth. Earthy pleasures are required for wellbeing according to Science
It is not off topic it is quite on. If there is a god etc then it is real and thus able to be studied by ScienceYour reply to me is off topic.
Somehow I think this is not so trueThe question posed in thread is why pleasure is a “bad” thing according to [a] religion - not science.
It’s important to word your questions accurately, because it is your question -as posed- that will be addressed by readers; not your own ideas outside it.
Humbly,
Hermit
InterestingIt is not off topic it is quite on. If there is a god etc then it is real and thus able to be studied by Science
Somehow I think this is not so true
And No, it was not success, because the old laws were not kept. How many prophets would later cry out loud, lamenting how the people had strayed away from them? There's even a book with that name, Lamentations. For success those old laws needed to be kept, and 'back then' they all would have helped.I'm sorry, sir, it was not success.
I wonder whether we have integrated with Nature? I hear about our dirt accelerating climate change. I hear about so many creatures becoming extinct each month and year.Too little to be called success. Success is like Egypt or Mesopotamia or Athens or Rome or the Mongols or the United States. Freedom is what works with Nature, it's just Nature excentuating Nature with military. Other things like was normal back then clog up Nature and gum by going against what should be. In other words they do not integrate into Nature because they are not Nature. I can explain if you like.
You cannot understand pain without knowing pleasure.
If that is true, then the Heaven of that religion would be quite bad. An infinity of non pleasure.I've heard something before but can't even remember it
Do, you also agree that Hell is better then Heaven, right? If not, why not?
John
Do, you also agree that Hell is better then Heaven, right? If not, why not?
Too much of anything can be bad, I suppose. I've been re-playing the Outer Worlds recently and there's this... well... there's this plot mechanic where a certain something is used to force a permanent state of happiness? It is genuinely, genuinely creepy. And not just because it involves a parasite attached to people's necks
That is not science, it is some psychological mumbo jumbo. It certainly could never be tested and verified so it is not science.Again, sorry, sir, but that is an oversimplification of the truth. Earthy pleasures are required for wellbeing according to Science
No, not really, because there is nothing physical in either Heaven or Hell, so anyone who is attached to physical pleasures is going to be sorely disappointed. That is what Hell is, wanting what you can no longer have. The last sentence of the following passage aptly describes what Hell is.If that is true, then the Heaven of that religion would be quite bad. An infinity of non pleasure.
Which, incidentally, also explains why I would vastly prefer Hell over Heaven, in the extremely unlikely case of standard Christian theology to be true.
It is a no brainer, really.
From BingAnd No, it was not success, because the old laws were not kept. How many prophets would later cry out loud, lamenting how the people had strayed away from them? There's even a book with that name, Lamentations. For success those old laws needed to be kept, and 'back then' they all would have helped.
I wonder whether we have integrated with Nature? I hear about our dirt accelerating climate change. I hear about so many creatures becoming extinct each month and year.
But if you have an explanation for why the old laws of Moses were so wrong then I'll read it, but I reckon that for such laws to have been written thousands of years ago is just amazing.
How about this one:-
Deuteronomy {25:4} Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out [the corn.
Free to graze as it works............... a law of Moses!
That is not science, it is some psychological mumbo jumbo. It certainly could never be tested and verified so it is not science.