Why is Public Nudity Wrong or Immoral?

[Skwim]

You consider the butt and breasts to be sexual objects?

Some people exist right on the edge of sexual arousal, whereas most of us have developed a more mature sexuality that can put such things in a proper perspective and take them in stride.

 

[Vendetta]

You consider the butt and breasts to be sexual objects?

Yes. Not to be explicit, but during intercourse what ar the most common areas that are engaged in sexual activity? What areas of the female body are sexualized in media, movies, and overall television? The sexual parts of a woman or what we deem as sexual have influenced us to not only sexualize these specific body parts but make us embarassed to show them in public.

 

[haribol]

I personally wouldn't like to see it. But, if for generations people have been nude in public and it now seemed a normal thing to do, there probably wouldn't be as many concerns, or views of it being immoral. When you look back to how people dressed even a hundred or so years ago - they wore more in public than people do now, but we've adapted to it.

I find this idea full of wisdom in fact. Had public nudity been there since the beginning or if humans had continued being nude trough centuries down the ages we would have taken it easy. Now suddenly some people go nude it kind of disrupts the harmony we have in society. Think about unleashing a dog. It is likely to bite. If the dog was never leashed it would have been dangerous.

 

[CaptainBritain]

I find this idea full of wisdom in fact. Had public nudity been there since the beginning or if humans had continued being nude trough centuries down the ages we would have taken it easy. Now suddenly some people go nude it kind of disrupts the harmony we have in society. Think about unleashing a dog. It is likely to bite. If the dog was never leashed it would have been dangerous.

There were different attitudes through history and by geography, the bare chested tribes women that infiltrate every edition of national geographic might hint at our past.

Morals are relative to time and place.

 

[Valjean]

Bare breasted woman's fashions were, at times, common even in Europe from the 15th to 18th centuries, among all social classes from peasants to royalty.
It was legs that were considered the more risque.

 

[Penumbra]

Yes. Not to be explicit, but during intercourse what ar the most common areas that are engaged in sexual activity? What areas of the female body are sexualized in media, movies, and overall television? The sexual parts of a woman or what we deem as sexual have influenced us to not only sexualize these specific body parts but make us embarassed to show them in public.

Exactly- what is deemed as sexual. It's arbitrary and a fad. Breasts and behinds are not sexual objects.

Some cultures consider hair very sexual, and consider it needing to be covered in public. Some cultures consider legs to be very sexual, and they need to be covered. Some cultures insist that the face must be covered.

So they're not being covered out of some absolute sexual status- they are being covered to satisfy some arbitrary fad; a legally enforced fad. It's something that just is, but when thought about, doesn't make any sense.

 

[Sunstone]

I also meant to say inappropriate-ness is basically that which is not suitable for public discourse. If a woman walked around with 38dd and a big butt in front of me I am going to look and I may at some point have sexual thoughts. I believe at least in our era sexual objects and organs are best saved in private

So are you suggesting that the woman should be held even partly responsible for preventing you from having sexual thoughts?

Are you also saying that you find having sexual thoughts to be something that causes you injury or harm? If so, what is the harm or injury?

Even regardless of how you answer those two questions, isn't this getting kind of silly? I mean, if I see my neighbor's sexy butt, it might prompt me to think of having sex. But if I follow my impulse and have sex with someone, do I have a right as an adult to blame my neighbor for my having sex?

Again, if I see my neighbor's new car, it might prompt me to think of buying a new car, too. But if I follow my impulse and buy a new car, do I have a right as an adult to blame my neighbor for causing me to buy a new car?

If the answer to those questions is "yes", then where does it end for you? Where do you finally begin taking some responsibility for your thoughts, feelings, and actions? And when do you stop blaming anything you don't like about them on your neighbor?

 

[Sunstone]

Yes. Not to be explicit, but during intercourse what ar the most common areas that are engaged in sexual activity? What areas of the female body are sexualized in media, movies, and overall television? The sexual parts of a woman or what we deem as sexual have influenced us to not only sexualize these specific body parts but make us embarassed to show them in public.

Embarrassment? The greatest harm in nudity that you can come up with is that it would embarrass you should you take seeing naked breasts and butts sexually?

Am I to believe your test for whether a thing is morally right or wrong, whether it should or should not be morally permitted -- even, whether it should be made legal or illegal -- is whether or not it causes you to blush?

 

[Neophyte]

There is nothing wrong with nudity. I just don't get it. I believe this teaching seems to stem mostly (not completely) from Christianity. Truth is, even the Bible does not teach it is wicked. It does teach that nudity is a shame just as it teaches that long hair is a shame for a man. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with it. Sex, touching in sexual ways, etc. should not be done in front of children lest it could mess up their minds, but messing around in front of kids just seems disturbing anyway. I do not feel most people would even consider doing that.

 

[ChristineES]

Why is public nudity wrong or immoral? Please explain.

People don't trust themselves. If I see a man in a three piece suit, that is somewhat loose fitting, I will be less tempted than if he wore tight jeans and an open shirt- particularly if he had a nice body, and I am not going to mention about him nude (I'd rather have my husband clothed, to be sure). If everyone was running around nude, then no one would notice another person unless that person had an unusually nice body. But since most people wear clothing, then we would notice and be distracted.
That doesn't really explain why it is immoral, but why it is... frowned up.

 

[RomCat]

Because this is not the Garden of Eden.

 

[Skwim]

People don't trust themselves. If I see a man in a three piece suit, that is somewhat loose fitting, I will be less tempted than if he wore tight jeans and an open shirt- particularly if he had a nice body, and I am not going to mention about him nude (I'd rather have my husband clothed, to be sure). If everyone was running around nude, then no one would notice another person unless that person had an unusually nice body. But since most people wear clothing, then we would notice and be distracted.
That doesn't really explain why it is immoral, but why it is... frowned up.

It isn't that people don't trust themselves with the nudity of others, but that people (Christians, in main) have tried to convince them they can't. As has been amply shown by those societies where nudity is common, people can be trusted to act appropriately. IMO as Christians sought to limit the evils of lust, they inadvertently created just such opportunities for it. The more objects of censorship the more objects of lust. However, for most of us, even if lust does arise---most often though it's nothing more than a wish or desire---we're capable of dealing with it.

 

[Vendetta]

Exactly- what is deemed as sexual. It's arbitrary and a fad. Breasts and behinds are not sexual objects.

Some cultures consider hair very sexual, and consider it needing to be covered in public. Some cultures consider legs to be very sexual, and they need to be covered. Some cultures insist that the face must be covered.

So they're not being covered out of some absolute sexual status- they are being covered to satisfy some arbitrary fad; a legally enforced fad. It's something that just is, but when thought about, doesn't make any sense.

I don't know about you but a woman showing her brewers and nipples in public and her butt cheeks are sexual areas to me. I am sure 90% of society would agree as well. Regardless whether having long or short hair maybe considered sexual to other cultures is irrelevant. Most cultures would consider breast and a bare butt sexual areas and are considered "private parts."

Edit: Not Brewers but breast

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Nudity is the natural state of Man.
One has to become " civilised" to need to wear clothes.
Young people only become obsessed with things restricted to them.
Natives that chose not to wear clothing do not have the same hang ups about sex.
Though most have mating rules of some sort.

 

[Penumbra]

I don't know about you but a woman showing her brewers and nipples in public and her butt cheeks are sexual areas to me. I am sure 90% of society would agree as well. Regardless whether having long or short hair maybe considered sexual to other cultures is irrelevant. Most cultures would consider breast and a bare butt sexual areas and are considered "private parts."

Popularity doesn't mean reasonable. Why should laws conform to what is popular but makes no sense?

Different cultures have different things they consider sexual, and enforce that various things must be covered up, but most of it seems based on sexual objectification anyway. Keeping arbitrary areas covered up is what keeps that sort of sexual objectification propagating.

 

[Skwim]

Nudity is the natural state of Man.
One has to become " civilised" to need to wear clothes.

No. One has to become cold.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nudity is the natural state of Man.
One has to become " civilised" to need to wear clothes.
Young people only become obsessed with things restricted to them.
Natives that chose not to wear clothing do not have the same hang ups about sex.
Though most have mating rules of some sort.

The last sentence makes me think that there will always be some restrictions people impose upon themselves for social anti-friction purposes.
Whether it's ultra-concealing Islamic clothing, western swimwear, or steamy jungle behavior codes for naked hunter gatherers, all conventions
get the job done, but can look arbitrary. It's gonna happen & it will evolve from time to time as cultures & needs change. I'd wager that every
solution to our current "hang ups" just causes a new set of objections by others. At least the US ain't as bad as some others.

 

[mohammed_beiruti]

Why is public nudity wrong or immoral? Please explain.

do you feel Ok when you see your sister nude on the street in public?

I don't think so:no:

 

[Storm]

do you feel Ok when you see your sister nude on the street in public?

I don't think so:no:

1) Appeal to emotion
2) Nudists don't care
3) He posed the question "why". Do you have an answer?

 

[mohammed_beiruti]

1) Appeal to emotion
2) Nudists don't care
3) He posed the question "why". Do you have an answer?

well hello storm


I would like to ask you the same question, do you feel Ok to see your father nude?

I don't think so :no: