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why is trump in the UK? is it to insult people.?

shmogie

shmogie

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ChristineM said:
You think? Or you think!

Do you really think the electorate of london are that shallow? You have a dimmer view of your own countrymen than i do
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Are all those muslim immigrants who make up a huge proportion of Londonistan really his countrymen ?
 
shmogie

shmogie

Well-Known Member
metis said:
That's sorta funny as so many of the Pubs railed against Obama's supposed unpopularity internationally, but now they just pooh-pooh away any criticism of Trump-- like with the above.

To put it another way, relationships do matter, even as Trump explained in his book "The Art of the Deal".
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Hmmmm, I didn't. He was immensely popular overseas, and it did America not one whit of good.

Osama bin obama did all his machinations to the US without much help from overseas.

There is MUCH to criticize Trump about as a person.

The accomplishments of his Administration, not much.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
shmogie said:
About as important as the number of crab farts on the beaches of Malaysia in 1953.
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With the Empire gone, and the Royal Family faded to
a theme park / tourist attraction, they gots to try to find
something important.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
ChristineM said:
Sorry??? Nope only america thinks it has the influence it once had.

Its not only trump but he has a big influence, the decline has been happening for twenty or more years? Most of the middle east and africa.

Add to that the increasing influence of china. And of course russia. Then take into consideration the 4 biggest countries/economies in europe, germany, france, the uk and spain who each have their reasons to loath trump, however a new president may improve the view of europeans.
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If / that American influence has declined does in
no way say that the world does not continue to revolve
about the US.

I am a green card holder, not a jingo-patriot who
holds that the USA is gods gift to the world.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
shmogie said:
OOOOOOoooooooooooooo scary. Perceptions are perceptions. I will take the lowest unemployment rate in 30 years, a booming economy, increased spending for the military, a tax cut, renegotiated trade agreements, over your perception.

He is ruining the world ? What balderdash. You no doubt are talking about "climate change". Why don't you make your indictment about the greatest polluters in the world ? China, Russia, India, Viet Nam. We already have cut our carbon emissions quite significantly. Why should we impose more costly restrictions, when these others have none ?

Trump is sometimes a buffoon and clown. He is blunt, direct, undiplomatic and blurts what he thinks.

However that is his personality, he rattles, shakes and disrupts. people love him or hate him. So be it.

He makes the US look like a total disgrace ? Really ? Is our massive foreign aid a disgrace ? How about our contributions to NATO compared to what other nations pay, a disgrace ? I could go on and on, but the point is made.

You hate him, I got it. However, your hatred, or every Brits hatred means nothing to me. Why should it ? You need us much more than we need you, and luckily for you, we look at you as our eccentric, sometimes misguided, cousins.
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I'm talking about his policies (e.g. trade wars, immigration, LGBT discrimination, tax cuts for the rich), his shady business practices, his disregard for the rule of law, his disregard to prior commitments (pulling out of the Iran deal and the Paris Climate Accord), his constant lies which show that he can't be trusted, his views against science (eg. climate change, pollution in general), his views on the free press ("enemy of the people"), the way he maligns the US's longstanding allies and sucks up to and supports dictators (e.g. love letters with Kim Jung Un, refusing to condemn Saudi Arabia for murdering and dismembering a journalist, his undying support of all things Putin), his general attitude and behavior towards anyone who doesn't fully kiss is backside or has any criticism of him whatsoever - he is always a buffoon and a clown.

He's made your country into a laughing stock in the world, which is quite a shame since I've often admired your country in the past. Look at how the people of the UK welcomed him.

P.S. I'm Canadian. Which I'm sure means that you're going to talk down to me and tell me the US needs us more than we need you (which is BS, because we need each other) but all I'm telling you is how Trump looks to the rest of the world. Though you don't seem to care much. And that's fine.
 
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ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Audie said:
If / that American influence has declined does in
no way say that the world does not continue to revolve
about the US.

I am a green card holder, not a jingo-patriot who
holds that the USA is gods gift to the world.
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It does US influence has waned.

Yes i realise that. It really makes no difference
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
ChristineM said:
It does US influence has waned.

Yes i realise that. It really makes no difference
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Ok we have come to agreement on t he obvious.
Clear sign you are not a creationist! :D

Who knows if US influence and power will become
even more prominent in the future.

China is not to be underestimated, but it will
have a very hard time rivaling the USA. And
Russia, no way.
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
shmogie said:
Are all those muslim immigrants who make up a huge proportion of Londonistan really his countrymen ?
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Btw. Khan is a brit, born in london.

His countrymen are english as are many other muslims
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Audie said:
Ok we have come to agreement on t he obvious.
Clear sign you are not a creationist! :D

Who knows if US influence and power will become
even more prominent in the future.

China is not to be underestimated, but it will
have a very hard time rivaling the USA. And
Russia, no way.
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Definitely not a creationist ;-)

It may do but my money is on china taking advantage of the decline of america.

Russia cannot rival the big players but it adds its influence where ever it suites russia
 
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