Why not Bible study in schools?

[nonda]

To have students, this means to me that they are willing to learn. Yes, Bible should be tought in school if the majority wants to learn, and its an elective that credits history.

Its the same to me as language. Why some areas teach some languages in public schools, but not ALL languages.


BINGO... and what do people do now? Want some cheese to go along with that whine? Whine whine whine. Let local areas decide for themselves. "My kids dont need to be taught this evil crap, teach them other obsolete refrences pertaining to history and so called 'propper-communication-skills' " LOL.. its sad and funny, where a laughing frown when you need one?

I agree!

 

[nonda]

I believe that they still do at private Christian schools. Perhaps you should check them out. But public schools should remain secular because not only kids from Christian families, but kids from Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Atheist, Jewish, etc., families attend public schools as well. Besides there is a perfect place for teaching Bible stories, two actually, at church and at home.

And public schools will remain the same disfuncational, and crude. It is our public schools that need more help than others. I do not believe that I have read in the headlines about a shooting at a private school. Or even a Chrisitian school! If you have please let me know?

 

[Green Gaia]

And public schools will remain the same disfuncational, and crude. It is our public schools that need more help than others. I do not believe that I have read in the headlines about a shooting at a private school. Or even a Chrisitian school! If you have please let me know?

I don't know if there has been or not. That's not the point. If you think forcing kids to learn Bible stories instead of math and science is going to stop that, then I can't help you.

 

[nonda]

I don't know if there has been or not. That's not the point. If you think forcing kids to learn Bible stories instead of math and science is going to stop that, then I can't help you.

Never suggested to get rid of anyone subjects, I simply asked to add one. I beleive an important one at that!

 

[ch'ang]

There are other ways for kids to learn about morals then teaching the bible, and also it is not the schools job to teach the kid’s morals that’s the parents job because it is their child and they may not wan their child to exposed to the values that the school thinks are right. Also you could never decide which morals are "better" it is all a matter of opinion and is a personal decision that can't be controlled by the state.

And public schools will remain the same dysfunctional, and crude. It is our public schools that need more help than others. I do not believe that I have read in the headlines about a shooting at a private school. Or even a Christian school! If you have please let me know?

The reason there is more shootings at public schools is because (usually) only the elite and upper middle class go to private schools because their parents can afford it but people who live below the poverty line have no choice but to go to public school. Also if a private school can select the kids that go to their school if a child has a history of violence they can deny him, public schools don't have that option, so that claim even though true proves nothing.

 

[Green Gaia]

Never suggested to get rid of anyone subjects, I simply asked to add one. I beleive an important one at that!

Add one where? From what other subjects do you suggest we subtract time for teaching Bible stories? Are you also going to teach the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Torah, the Book of Mormon, the Tao Te Ching, Buddhist religious texts, the I Ching.. etc, etc, etc?

If you want to teach your kid Bible stories, do so at home or church. It's not the school's job, they have enough to teach.

 

[Ceridwen018]

Never suggested to get rid of anyone subjects, I simply asked to add one. I beleive an important one at that!

maize is exactly right. You think that its important, but that's because you're Christian. I can't imagine how a little Hindu girl would feel if she was forced to learn the Bible in her Public school. The point of Public school is to be secular, and if you don't like it there are PLENTY of good Christian schools to send your kids to! Better yet, put on your parenting pants and do it yourself!

As for the violence in Public schools, it is not the result of a "lack of morals". Public schools do teach morals as far as they have codes of conduct and things like that. The reason why there is more violence in Public schools is because the education is free, and therefore kids who can't afford private school, and who usually live in rougher neighborhoods with more inherent violence etc., make up a large amount of the attending students.

In private schools on the other hand, families are more well-to-do, or often they have an established legacy of academics in their family. There are a handful of kids in every private school who are violent and just mess around all of the time, but the majority of the kids at private school mean business.

 

[CaptainXeroid]

I don't think you're stupid. I think you made a thoughtless and baseless claim...

If not, you have a funny way of showing it. Your first response was 'Easily? :biglaugh: What nonsense'. For that reason, I have no obligation to substantiate my opinion to you. Perhaps when you learn some manners and stop taking cheap shots at people, I'll consider it.

Maybe if you had studied some Bible lessons in school you wouldn't be such a bitter and angry man with have a track record of demeaning and ridiculing opinions with which you disagree. I will pray for you.:162:

 

[retrorich]

I don't think you're stupid. I think you made a thoughtless and baseless claim...

If not, you have a funny way of showing it. Your first response was 'Easily? :biglaugh: What nonsense'. For that reason, I have no obligation to substantiate my opinion to you. Perhaps when you learn some manners and stop taking cheap shots at people, I'll consider it.

Maybe if you had studied some Bible lessons in school you wouldn't be such a bitter and angry man with have a track record of demeaning and ridiculing opinions with which you disagree. I will pray for you.:162:

Amen, Brother!

 

[Original Freak]

Add one where? From what other subjects do you suggest we subtract time for teaching Bible stories? Are you also going to teach the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Torah, the Book of Mormon, the Tao Te Ching, Buddhist religious texts, the I Ching.. etc, etc, etc?

If you want to teach your kid Bible stories, do so at home or church. It's not the school's job, they have enough to teach.

Exactly...you people are assuming that only the majority get to choose what they want to learn...it doesn't work that way. If the students all got together and voted they didn't have to study math would you be for taking that out of the schools?

Also don't assume your have the only religion, if you want to teach one then you must teach ALL of them. There are others that have much more history than the bible, and the bible isn't completely historical fact so you can't use it as a historical text. There are plenty of opertunities to learn about the bible by people who think they are qualified to teach it...just go to a church.

 

[joeboonda]

Do I go to Hell if I fail, lol, jk.
Yeah, its just not something we can do as we have children of so many religions, it just won't happen.
Interestingly, the first American schools primary purpose was to teach children to read so they could read the BIble, and the first colleges like the Ivy-league colleges, were to produce ministers.
Unfortunately, (to me), many followed Darwin, even though he admitted there were no missing links, and began teaching evolution, atheism, and such, and as we got more immigrants with different religions, as a matter of following the constitution, we ended up going completely secular, which is a crying shame to me. I guess ya gotta teach em at home or a private school now, although some school still allow groups to meet before school
They asked me why there was so much violence in school, where was God? I said, didn't you hear, God is not allowed in school anymore.

 

[Green Gaia]

Interestingly, the first American schools primary purpose was to teach children to read so they could read the BIble,

No, they were taught from the Bible because most families had a already had a copy, so they didn't have to purchase books they couldn't afford and weren't available. That's why the Bible was used in schools.

 

[Jaymes]

God is allowed in school. As long as there are pop quizzes, God will always be in school. I don't care if God, Zeus, Rhiannon, and every other God/dess is in school (though I imagine that'd make for quite a lunch line...). It is only when the state says "this religion/deity is right/wrong" that they shouldn't be in school.

And I must have missed out on the atheism classes... :biglaugh:

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Many if not quite all Church and religion based schools in the UK are public funded.
Religion is taught in thes schools.
Some private schools are very strict religion wise.

Terry
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Blessed are those who bring peace, they shall be children of God

 

[Original Freak]

Unfortunately, (to me), many followed Darwin, even though he admitted there were no missing links, and began teaching evolution, atheism, and such,

how do you teach atheism exactly...as far as I can tell atheism is not believing in a god and nothing else.

For shame they decided to stick with proveable facts and world wide accepted sciences, theories and classes in school. How dare they.

 

[Feathers in Hair]

Hey, guys, just a heads up- please don't make personal attacks or be not nice to the other person. (We try and save that for 'debate!')

(Errr... Just kidding about that last part.)

 

[Ryan2065]

The reason values are not taught in school is for the simple fact that values are not to be taught by the schools. To say that you yell at someone for stealing is teaching them values is not true. You are enforcing the law and teaching your students the law in that case, not values. You can set up rules for your classroom, just don't tell your students to follow your rules outside of the classroom. That is the parents job.

 

[Crystallas]

If a school offers Bible...why do people assume its FORCE? Thats prolly the more ignorant inconsistancies I see that go along with any school having an elective class on any faith.

 

[joeboonda]

No, they were taught from the Bible because most families had a already had a copy, so they didn't have to purchase books they couldn't afford and weren't available. That's why the Bible was used in schools.

I would have to disagree, they had other books in the early schools that were biblical in content, and they were christian schools, that is just a historical fact.

 

[Ryan2065]

If a school offers Bible...why do people assume its FORCE? Thats prolly the more ignorant inconsistancies I see that go along with any school having an elective class on any faith.

Again, if they offer bible in school why not offer a religion class in EVERY religion known to man. It is only fair. =)