MJFlores
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Most of the time, things could be explained in simply.
Non living things cannot and will not result into living things.
Other than that, it would be weird science.
Weird Science (film) - Wikipedia
Love that film.
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Why the theory of evolution is so important
- Thread starter Bear Wild
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Most of the time, things could be explained in simply.
Non living things cannot and will not result into living things.
Other than that, it would be weird science.
Weird Science (film) - Wikipedia
Love that film.
Again more silly pictures and assertions based on intentional ignorance of science and an archaic religious agenda.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
All the world's religions are hypothetical, i have no doubt on that.
I have my own hypotheticals as well. One being in a vital force underlying all of reality, something beyond the scope of current instruments. Something science has nothing to say about it, and only perhaps philosophy could answer.
You sound very much like a materialist; that only the physical is real. That doesnt leave much room for a God, nor an intelligent force.
Anyways i have always had this intuition that there are many things beyond the senses, and that intentionality is a part of nature somehow. I do think the jaws of math's reach lay in the physical. So the wave function is more math than reality.
But i hardly know where to dig in with it all.
Bear Wild
Well-Known Member
So what are we really? We are mostly carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, calcium, nitrogen, sodium, potassium with some iron, copper and magnesium thrown in yet all of these are considered non living by themselves. So we are made up of nonliving components that when combined in the right pattern create more and more complex patterns that at some point we consider life. Our brains and muscles operate through shifting calcium and potassium through channels. Why is so hard to see how these non living elements could finally arrange form more and more complex patterns until there is something living. But you forgot this is about evolution and why it is so important not the origin of life itself. Evolution concerns itself with how early forms of life with a DNA code could change over time and diversify to create our complex world today.
What remains true is evolution is the only explanation which is supported by and supports our understanding of ecology. The two theories are more interwoven than most people understand. All other religious presentations do not explain what is seen in ecology including the changes that are happening in ecosystems today with rapid changes to the environment. No other presentation can help us to predict what will happen to the diversity of life with rapid change. All other creation myths do not help us understand our world and teach us what we need to do to survive as a species on this planet. Only understanding evolution and its interplay with ecology will give us the understanding to survive and if we do not learn from it we are then facing our own extinction.
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
Is there a modern religious agenda?
Donald Trumpism complete with the Golden Bull.
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OK, and I believe in God and spiritual worlds beyond our physical world, and that is not the realm of science. I acknowledge that all the diverse and often conflicting beliefs are to a certain extent hypothetical.
Absolutely no, but nonetheless science does not involve simply the hypothetical concerning the nature of our physical existence..There will always be unknowns, but science including the sciences of abiogenesis and evolution are based on sound falsification and prediction of hypothesis and theories,
OK
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
Yes we are composed of Earth elements
But the thing, I am asking is if
I place these things in a bottle and
shake it to the left and
shake it to the right
Do the boogie woogie
would that produce life?
If it will, how come other planets are void of life
not even the singled cell microscopic organism
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
What reason would you have to believe such a silly thing would happen?Yes we are composed of Earth elements
But the thing, I am asking is if
I place these things in a bottle and
shake it to the left and
shake it to the right
Do the boogie woogie
would that produce life?
If it will, how come other planets are void of life
not even the singled cell microscopic organism
Yes we are composed of Earth elements
But the thing, I am asking is if
I place these things in a bottle and
shake it to the left and
shake it to the right
Do the boogie woogie
would that produce life?
If it will, how come other planets are void of life
not even the singled cell microscopic organism
Well, simply mixing them won't do it. They have to be arranged in some fairly specific ways and simple mixing won't do that.
But, life *is* made from these non-living chemicals. The arrangement is crucial, yes.
As for life on other planets, we know that life requires liquid water, which restricts the temperatures allowed. Earth is the only planet in our solar system that has liquid water. Well, the moon Europa probably does, but it is underneath the surface and we don't know if there is life there or not.
It is also possible that there *was* life on Mars at one point. We know it had liquid water in abundance in the past. But, in all likelihood, all life there died when the water became scarce. But even in this case, it is *possible* that there is life there beneath the surface. Not likely, but possible.
There is a great deal we have not been able to explore yet.
But we also know that life existed on Earth very quickly after conditions allowed it. That suggests that life is fairly easy to produce once the correct conditions arise.
Outside of our solar system, we have not been able to look at planets in any detail. There are a few candidates for planets that *could* have life, but we simply don't know yet.
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Yes we are composed of Earth elements
But the thing, I am asking is if
I place these things in a bottle and
shake it to the left and
shake it to the right
Do the boogie woogie
would that produce life?
If it will, how come other planets are void of life
not even the singled cell microscopic organism
No but you may get arrested for murder, or desecration of a body.
. . . or just laughed at for proposing a ridiculous scenario.
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
That leads us to an intelligent design.
How so? Many chemical systems can self-organize in the right conditions.
Laws of Nature and the environment are cause of abiogenesis and evolution.
MJFlores
Well-Known Member
and then we have an intelligent design?
Ah it happened just like that.
if not is this from an intelligent design?
Hebrews 3:4 New International Version (NIV)
For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Is it "intelligent design" when there's a miscarriage? Is it "intelligent design" if a baby is born with serious defects? Is it "intelligent design" if thousands are killed by a tsunami?
I do believe in God, but I don't believe God planned every little thing that happens.
I do believe in God, but I don't believe God planned every little thing that happens.