Why was God's name removed from most bibles?

[seekandfind]

From my search into this, YHWH is not the name of God. It is also a mnemonic. The name of God is also the word of creation. In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and all that.

So the name of of God, the Word of God is to powerful for any human to know. If man were to learn the true "name" of God then man would be able to unmake creation.

YHWY represent the four elements of creation. The four elements that provide the structure underlying the universe. What science is ultimately looking for. If man could learn to undo this fundamental structure, the universe would cease to exist. That is why the true name of God is too powerful for anyone to know.

Not claiming this is true, just what I was taught.

Ive never heard any of that. Sounds like a lot of philisophics.

God plainly said what his name is if you read Exodus 3:13-15. There is no guessing needed.

 

[seekandfind]

Or so you hope? Again, the more direct route would be to just reference the original.

The original post did.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Hi IndigoChild5559. Good afternoon. Pronouncing the Tetragrammaton as Yahweh is not a guess.

It is, and the very fact that you so irrationally deny it... Sorry, I just deleted the rest of your post. I don't waste my time on people who say the earth is flat.

 

[Viker]

Me having a general conversation is obviously a different subject than a bible translation removing it.

In order to have a general conversation and to translate the Bible with respect to the actual name of God, appropriate titles will be used. As you are doing. The translator's intent is the same as your own.

 

[Wandering Monk]

You deny its mans traditions that ceased the use of Gods name when its an admitted by some Jews.

Why does any of that matter?

 

[Left Coast]

The original post did.

Then you ought to understand the logic of what I'm explaining...?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Come to find out God's name has been removed over 7,000 times per bible!

Those insidious stinkers! Thanks for sharing.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You obviously believe that. You wrote your post, and I wrote mine. Nobody else wrote yours and nobody else wrote mine. I no longer agree with the idea you present. The scrolls and writings have been not only carefully preserved as much as humanly possible, but as far as I am concerned (because I don't like to speak for other people such as yourself), by the hand of God.

It's not a belief. It's established fact in light of all the existing variations out there at present.

I think the count so far is around 7,000 variations that includes editions of the same translations.

How Many Bibles Are There? (2024)

There are many different versions of the Bible available today. We share how many versions of Bibles are out there, so you can pick the right for yourself, right here.

thewitness.org

Wiki has a fairly extensive list as well, of complete variations / redactions of the Bible.

List of English Bible translations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[seekandfind]

In order to have a general conversation and to translate the Bible with respect to the actual name of God, appropriate titles will be used. As you are doing. The translator's intent is the same as your own.

If that is their point it really isnt a choice they should have made. Men's traditions should stay out of translations. God never said to remove his name and he wants it used, just not in an unholy way.

 

[YoursTrue]

In order to have a general conversation and to translate the Bible with respect to the actual name of God, appropriate titles will be used. As you are doing. The translator's intent is the same as your own.

No matter how you slice it, it is impossible to have a proper understanding of the scriptures without a reliable, decent and close to the text as possible translation. Go ahead! Disagree!

 

[Brian2]

I'm not sure what PNG means.

Papua New Guinea

 

[Brian2]

Im not sure why you are needing one thing to be more important than the other...knowing Gods name is part of being a Christian.

"I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”- John 17:26

“I have made your name manifest to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word."-John 17:6

"This means everlasting life: their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ." John 17:3

Does that mean the knowing of a name or actually knowing God and Jesus?
Nobody can call on a name that they don't know and the Christian Church has been the Christian Church since the time of Jesus and it appears to be without the Hebrew name of God. That being the case, it seems that the Hebrew name of God is not really important.
If Romans 10 means what it seems to mean, it is calling on Jesus which is important and it is "Jesus" which takes the place of the Hebrew name.

 

[YoursTrue]

It is a shame that so much is lost in the English translations. Greek words and especially Hebrew words have so much more meanings. Thankful for the study helps.

I also find much more meaning in the correctly translated word "Father"! I never addressed my dad with his proper name as he told me, "Anyone can call me by my proper name but only YOU can call me by the name "Dad"! Meant so much more to me than all of his proper names.

That being said, it is great to understand His proper name and titles as it reveals who He is.

There was actually the worship given by the priests, the high priest, and that of the populace. If I were to distinguish between 'gods,' yes, I would also want to say which God (with or without the capital G) I am referring to.

 

[Brian2]

Sometimes what applies to Yhwh does apply to Jesus. Jesus aligned his will with Gods. Jesus was His spokesman much like the angel in the burning bush was not Yhwh but was attributed as such.

"Then Jehovah’s angel appeared to him in a flame of fire in the midst of a thornbush....When Jehovah saw that he went over to look, God called to him out of the thornbush and said: “Moses! Moses!” to which he said: “Here I am.”- Ex 3:3-4

And just like Revelation can be applied to many- God, Jesus, an angel, John- it ultimately comes from Yhwh.
"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John" Rev 1:1

If the Messenger of YHWH in the bush was YHWH (as the passage seems to indicate, with God speaking from the bush etc) then that would be an OT passage which showed that the one God YHWH can be more than one person imo.

 

[YoursTrue]

It is a shame that so much is lost in the English translations. Greek words and especially Hebrew words have so much more meanings. Thankful for the study helps.

I also find much more meaning in the correctly translated word "Father"! I never addressed my dad with his proper name as he told me, "Anyone can call me by my proper name but only YOU can call me by the name "Dad"! Meant so much more to me than all of his proper names.

That being said, it is great to understand His proper name and titles as it reveals who He is.

I agree that much can be lost in the way of translations. And a translation team is surely influenced by their compendium of religious beliefs.

 

[seekandfind]

Then you ought to understand the logic of what I'm explaining...?

Does that mean the knowing of a name or actually knowing God and Jesus?
Nobody can call on a name that they don't know and the Christian Church has been the Christian Church since the time of Jesus and it appears to be without the Hebrew name of God. That being the case, it seems that the Hebrew name of God is not really important.
If Romans 10 means what it seems to mean, it is calling on Jesus which is important and it is "Jesus" which takes the place of the Hebrew name.

I understand what you mean but the One behind the Hebrew name and Jesus are not the same so it cant be.
Psalm 110:1
Yhwh declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”
There is cleary God and Jesus being implied in the scriptures and hes not declaring to himself.

 

[seekandfind]

If the Messenger of YHWH in the bush was YHWH (as the passage seems to indicate, with God speaking from the bush etc) then that would be an OT passage which showed that the one God YHWH can be more than one person imo.

Except he wasnt in the bush. He had an angel speak for him. Gods message but not Gods mouth.

 

[YoursTrue]

If the Messenger of YHWH in the bush was YHWH (as the passage seems to indicate, with God speaking from the bush etc) then that would be an OT passage which showed that the one God YHWH can be more than one person imo.

Since no one (on earth) can see God at any time, it would seem reasonable to figure that it was an angel that approached Moses. This angel spoke for Jehovah. As His representative. Sometimes for me to better understand an incident in the Bible, I try to imagine it. Of course Moses had to be stunned. And of course he could not see Jehovah (or YHWH) in the flesh or exactitude, since no one can see YHWH (or Jehovah) and live. Exodus 3:2 helps to explain this, in part: (King James Version) "And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed." See, the "angel"of the LORD. And by now we know, don't we, what the word LORD means in the King James at least when it appears in capital letters. But verse 2 says it was the angel of Jehovah (or Yahweh...however a person wants to pronounce it now). Hope this helps, it's how I understand it now.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

If that is their point it really isnt a choice they should have made. Men's traditions should stay out of translations. God never said to remove his name and he wants it used, just not in an unholy way.

For Jews, a translation is just too casual a usage. When we copy the Torah scrolls in Hebrew, we of course leave the divine name in the text. It is the casual use of the name that we object to.

 

[seekandfind]

For Jews, a translation is just too casual a usage. When we copy the Torah scrolls in Hebrew, we of course leave the divine name in the text. It is the casual use of the name that we object to.

Do you have a scripture that has lost its meaning through translation?