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Why was Jesus not educated...?

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
Sorry Nate. normal people don't rescue adulteresses from the clutches of a mob, or turn the tables of money changers in sacred sites in the middle of a vibrant urban center.
An average day for Quick Draw McGraw.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
People are more on education than before. Even in the USA, only about 25% or so of Americans could read with any skill until I think the middle of the 19th century or later (I am not sure of the actual percentage, I am just guessing, but it wasn't a lot). Most people learned a trade.
But remember, wisdom isn't learned in books.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
People are more on education than before. Even in the USA, only about 25% or so of Americans could read with any skill until I think the middle of the 19th century or later (I am not sure of the actual percentage, I am just guessing, but it wasn't a lot). Most people learned a trade.
But remember, wisdom isn't learned in books.
I'm not sure where you are coming from. by reading the New Testament, it seems that Jesus' understanding of the Hebrew scripture was knowledgeable to the point of 'preaching in their synagogues in the whole of Galilee'.
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
People are more on education than before. Even in the USA, only about 25% or so of Americans could read with any skill until I think the middle of the 19th century or later (I am not sure of the actual percentage, I am just guessing, but it wasn't a lot). Most people learned a trade.
But remember, wisdom isn't learned in books.

No, indeed! And it's a sign of wisdom to know that.
 

strikeviperMKII

Well-Known Member
My other thread was removed so re-worded the question. Why was the son of god not educated?
How do you mean? Could he read and write? Yes, he could. I'm pretty sure he was aware of the concepts of the time, as much as any lay-person would be.
Also why did he not see or feel the need to record his teachings?

Why write down what is already there? The sun is bright, no? But most everyone can see that if they just look at it. So why is there any need to write it?
 

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
How do you mean? Could he read and write? Yes, he could. I'm pretty sure he was aware of the concepts of the time, as much as any lay-person would be.


Why write down what is already there? The sun is bright, no? But most everyone can see that if they just look at it. So why is there any need to write it?
Define what you mean by "is".
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I'm not sure where you are coming from. by reading the New Testament, it seems that Jesus' understanding of the Hebrew scripture was knowledgeable to the point of 'preaching in their synagogues in the whole of Galilee'.

I wasn't talking about Jesus; I agree He must have been educated since He knew a lot of scripture and could quote it at will (I have read the Bible many times, but I still have to look up certain quotes).
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
This thread is about Jesus and his education...

In a way, it was about Jesus and His education. People worried less about learning out of books in the past than they do now. Jesus lived 2,000 years ago, so whether He was educated or not doesn't and shouldn't even matter.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
In a way, it was about Jesus and His education. People worried less about learning out of books in the past than they do now. Jesus lived 2,000 years ago, so whether He was educated or not doesn't and shouldn't even matter.
I strongly disagree. why should anyone listen to an uneducated man? what can an uneducated man teach other men? street wisdom?
furthermore, Jews have always learned their books. if Jesus wanted to make an impression of his fellow Jews, he must have been educated and well versed.
 

strikeviperMKII

Well-Known Member
Define what you mean by "is".

Shall the clay say to the potter that fashioned it, what makest thou?
Isaiah 45:9 KJV
What is, is. What is not, is not. it is none of our concern. All we have to do is see it. Experience it. Be in it. What is will not suddenly disappear, and what is not will not suddenly appear.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
I strongly disagree. why should anyone listen to an uneducated man? what can an uneducated man teach other men? street wisdom?
furthermore, Jews have always learned their books. if Jesus wanted to make an impression of his fellow Jews, he must have been educated and well versed.

You don't have to be literate to learn from books - they can (and were) housed in a library or school (in the case of the Jews, a synagogue) and read to folks who memorized them.

The same thing happened with philosophy. Wealthy people could have books and have their slaves read to them, eventually the slave could be free and teach others without books - such is the case with Epictetus.

While Jesus received no formal education and was almost certainly illiterate (which would have been an historical anomaly if he was), he could have been exposed to learning in nearby cities.

On the point that no one would listen to him if he were not educated - he was an uneducated man speaking to uneducated people - all he needed to do was speak well.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I strongly disagree. why should anyone listen to an uneducated man? what can an uneducated man teach other men? street wisdom?
furthermore, Jews have always learned their books. if Jesus wanted to make an impression of his fellow Jews, he must have been educated and well versed.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't listen to someone just because they are educated or not. I listen to people if they have something to day. :)
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
You don't have to be literate to learn from books - they can (and were) housed in a library or school (in the case of the Jews, a synagogue) and read to folks who memorized them.

The same thing happened with philosophy. Wealthy people could have books and have their slaves read to them, eventually the slave could be free and teach others without books - such is the case with Epictetus.

While Jesus received no formal education and was almost certainly illiterate (which would have been an historical anomaly if he was), he could have been exposed to learning in nearby cities.
According to the New Testament, Jesus DID read from the Hebrew scripture, specifically from the book of Isaiah.

"Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about him spread through the whole countryside. He taught in their synagogues, and everyone praised him. He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:

"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind,to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favour, "


On the point that no one would listen to him if he were not educated - he was an uneducated man speaking to uneducated people - all he needed to do was speak well.
Sorry, I disagree. an uneducated man does not show as much passion and convictions about the political and religious affairs of his land. furthermore, Jesus spoke more than just to the uneducated, he spoke to the Pharisees, to high ranking Romans, and to officials.
 
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