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Why would God send people to Hell for being Good Careing Decent people?
God wouldn't.
People, however, living vicariously through God, would.
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Why would God send people to Hell for being Good Careing Decent people?
Im going to get straight to the point.
I am no Athiest. I believe there IS a higher power but I do not believe he is as wrathful as most Church's make him/her out to be.
What gets me angry about alot of Church's is that unless you follow their particular way of worship you will go to hell. What kind of rubbish is this? I thought Jesus taught people to love thy neighbor not judgeing them on Race or Religion? Or am I wrong here?
Nearly all people who participate in Church are very Judgemental, I have been told numerous times by Christians I will go to Hell if I dont change my ways..
I Don't Smoke
I Don't Gamble
I Do Partake in Alcohol but I Don't get drunk or drink to get drunk
I am a Virgin so no Sex either
I do not commit crimes
I guess they judge me wicked because I don't go to Church?
But why should I go to Church? How does going to Church make me more good?
I think God doe's Exist but I dont believe he will send people to Hell (If that place even exists) simply for " not believing in him " or not following a specific Church's practice.
Heres a Scenario.
(None of this is real it is made up as an example)
Jeff is a 43 year old man with 3 Kids aged 3,9 and 16 and a 39 year old Wife named Brenda.
Jeff is driveing home from work on a rainy night and a Truck who is driveing too fast lose's control and Smashes into Jeff's car. Killing him Instantly.
The Driver of the Truck is Arrested, Trialed and Sent to Prison for Manslaughter.
Jeff was a loveing Husband and Father and a great Friend to many.
Jeff was involved in many Charitys and raised lots of money to help Kids with disabilitys.
Jeff was an Athiest and did not believe in any god.
Uh Oh! Jeff did not believe God existed! Any Church Zealot would condemn him to Hell for this ungodly Sin...
My point is I cannot imagine God saying this.
Jeff. " But im not a Bad Person! ive made mistakes in life like a normal Human being but ive given most of my life to help people! "
God. " To bad you didn't believe in me so now you will burn in Hell for all Eternity "
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God would not Punish anyone for being a Good Person. Never.
Shame on you for believing he would.
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And for anyone who is too lazy to read this the Question is pretty much.
Why would God send people to Hell for being Good Careing Decent people?
Isn't it possible for someone to be denied knowledge without knowing what that knowledge actually is? The Devil tempted them by saying that the knowledge they would gain would make them like God. Is it possible to comprehend God's command not to eat something without understanding the full nature of good and evil?
Of course it's not. How could it be? If you don't have a knowledge of good and evil, how can you know that disobeying God qualifies as "evil"? Adam and Eve disobeyed God, but technically, they did not "sin," because sinning is the willful transgression against a moral law or religious principle. Until there is an understanding of good and evil, moral laws are meaningless. Consequently, there were consequences to Adam and Eve for disobeying, just as God told them there would be, bit it's hardly reasonable for us to blame them for sinning when they acted innocently, not being able to distinguish between good and evil until they ate the forbidden fruit.
God wouldn't.
People, however, living vicariously through God, would.
The reason people don't believe in God is because they didn't take the time to fully allow themselves to do all it takes to try.
Imagine this: You are bobbing for apples, and someone comes a long and holds your head under water and you cant come up for air unless they let go. You struggle and struggle to get oxygen! You find your self afraid if you don't get it soon you are going to drown! More than anything you want free! As you become weaker and weaker, they finally resist and let go of you. You spring out of the water rejoicing for air! The person who held you under is your stubbornness. The air was your goal: In this case it is doing EVERYTHING you can to get to know God. At least trying all you can to find out if He really does exist.
Sometimes, for some people... that's what it takes: As much as you wanted that air because you were frightened of drowning, You have to do ALL you can to find out if God really does exist. Because knowing God is that worth it.
Once you know God exists, you want to know what good will come of knowing Him, once you find that out, well there is no worries...
God does not overlook all the good qualities people have. But he sure does want you to know that He really is there.
Once you know that, you can find His truths. You can communicate with him through sincere prayer.
Sometimes that includes a little (or a lot of patience) its all about testing your faith.
But if you put your faith in Him, you WILL come to know what you are searching for. I found out. My life has become the greatest blessing by knowing Him, and being able to communicate with Him daily through prayer...
Im going to get straight to the point.
I am no Athiest. I believe there IS a higher power but I do not believe he is as wrathful as most Church's make him/her out to be.
What gets me angry about alot of Church's is that unless you follow their particular way of worship you will go to hell. What kind of rubbish is this? I thought Jesus taught people to love thy neighbor not judgeing them on Race or Religion? Or am I wrong here?
Nearly all people who participate in Church are very Judgemental, I have been told numerous times by Christians I will go to Hell if I dont change my ways..
I Don't Smoke
I Don't Gamble
I Do Partake in Alcohol but I Don't get drunk or drink to get drunk
I am a Virgin so no Sex either
I do not commit crimes
I guess they judge me wicked because I don't go to Church?
But why should I go to Church? How does going to Church make me more good?
I think God doe's Exist but I dont believe he will send people to Hell (If that place even exists) simply for " not believing in him " or not following a specific Church's practice.
Heres a Scenario.
(None of this is real it is made up as an example)
Jeff is a 43 year old man with 3 Kids aged 3,9 and 16 and a 39 year old Wife named Brenda.
Jeff is driveing home from work on a rainy night and a Truck who is driveing too fast lose's control and Smashes into Jeff's car. Killing him Instantly.
The Driver of the Truck is Arrested, Trialed and Sent to Prison for Manslaughter.
Jeff was a loveing Husband and Father and a great Friend to many.
Jeff was involved in many Charitys and raised lots of money to help Kids with disabilitys.
Jeff was an Athiest and did not believe in any god.
Uh Oh! Jeff did not believe God existed! Any Church Zealot would condemn him to Hell for this ungodly Sin...
My point is I cannot imagine God saying this.
Jeff. " But im not a Bad Person! ive made mistakes in life like a normal Human being but ive given most of my life to help people! "
God. " To bad you didn't believe in me so now you will burn in Hell for all Eternity "
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God would not Punish anyone for being a Good Person. Never.
Shame on you for believing he would.
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And for anyone who is too lazy to read this the Question is pretty much.
Why would God send people to Hell for being Good Careing Decent people?
Why would anyone try and second guess or judge what a God they don't believe in would do?
Why would anyone who does not believe in God worry about what someone who does believe in God thinks their God might do?
I don't believe faith is rational. It does not work that way. If you could rationalize this, there would no longer be any faith involved.Because other people do believe in it, and we want to understand how they rationalize it.
I don't believe faith is rational. It does not work that way. If you could rationalize this, there would no longer be any faith involved.
As I see it, there are two groups of people of faith. One group takes it upon themselves to pass judgement on others and say what they think their God will do.
The other group does not judge others and leaves all this up to their God to deal with.
Why would anyone try and second guess or judge what a God they don't believe in would do?
Why would anyone who does not believe in God worry about what someone who does believe in God thinks their God might do?
I don't believe faith is rational. It does not work that way. If you could rationalize this, there would no longer be any faith involved.
I believe faith is stronger than hope or at least it should be.do you think faith is hope?
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you mean faith is a deeper sense of hopeI believe faith is stronger than hope or at least it should be....
...Usually hope fades with time, but I can see similarities between the two.
i'm sorry but i cannot wrap my head around this notion.When a religious person has a personal relationship with God, they grow spiritually.
however religion is a vehicle that helps influence politics...This is why politics and religion don't mix well.
not that it drives people away but maybe look at religion differently as a glorified justification for injustices... speaking for myself i didn't decide to stop believing in god because of the behavior of the religious, it was a choice made on another understanding...the behavior of some of those religious people only serve as a purpose to make a case against religious biases.I'm glad you brought this up. Do you believe religious folks have drove people away from their previous faith in God with all this "queer's burning in hell" stuff?
yes. however the christian religion has the most influence on people... a person who may not be religious is still influenced by christianity and can assume a biased position of homosexuality because of the underlying influence christianity has on society... the justification for this bias is the notion, "it's not natural or it's not a moral behavior" which implies a god has set a boundary in regards to homosexualityYou do realize that there are many religions that accept homosexuality right?
i admire that. i believe people who have a closed mind are insecure about the fact that it is perfectly fine to change ones mind, if the new outlook stands up to common sense.Myself, I have changed my position on gay marriage since I first came to RF.
You can thank our queer members who had patience with me to work through this issue.
I believe no person should have to choose between being religious or spiritual and become Atheists just because they have issues with what some people do in the name of religion.
Im going to get straight to the point.
I am no Athiest. I believe there IS a higher power but I do not believe he is as wrathful as most Church's make him/her out to be.
What gets me angry about alot of Church's is that unless you follow their particular way of worship you will go to hell. What kind of rubbish is this? I thought Jesus taught people to love thy neighbor not judgeing them on Race or Religion? Or am I wrong here?
Nearly all people who participate in Church are very Judgemental, I have been told numerous times by Christians I will go to Hell if I dont change my ways..
I Don't Smoke
I Don't Gamble
I Do Partake in Alcohol but I Don't get drunk or drink to get drunk
I am a Virgin so no Sex either
I do not commit crimes
I guess they judge me wicked because I don't go to Church?
But why should I go to Church? How does going to Church make me more good?
I think God doe's Exist but I dont believe he will send people to Hell (If that place even exists) simply for " not believing in him " or not following a specific Church's practice.
Heres a Scenario.
(None of this is real it is made up as an example)
Jeff is a 43 year old man with 3 Kids aged 3,9 and 16 and a 39 year old Wife named Brenda.
Jeff is driveing home from work on a rainy night and a Truck who is driveing too fast lose's control and Smashes into Jeff's car. Killing him Instantly.
The Driver of the Truck is Arrested, Trialed and Sent to Prison for Manslaughter.
Jeff was a loveing Husband and Father and a great Friend to many.
Jeff was involved in many Charitys and raised lots of money to help Kids with disabilitys.
Jeff was an Athiest and did not believe in any god.
Uh Oh! Jeff did not believe God existed! Any Church Zealot would condemn him to Hell for this ungodly Sin...
My point is I cannot imagine God saying this.
Jeff. " But im not a Bad Person! ive made mistakes in life like a normal Human being but ive given most of my life to help people! "
God. " To bad you didn't believe in me so now you will burn in Hell for all Eternity "
---
God would not Punish anyone for being a Good Person. Never.
Shame on you for believing he would.
---
And for anyone who is too lazy to read this the Question is pretty much.
Why would God send people to Hell for being Good Careing Decent people?