F0uad
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Lol i have no comment i was making the same argument.
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Will there ever be a 'Reformation' in Islam?
- Thread starter sandandfoam
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Lol i have no comment i was making the same argument.
Cordoba
Well-Known Member
For this century, Swiss-born Dr. Tariq Ramadan has been described as Islam's Martin Luther
This is his web site:
Tariq Ramadan
Thanks for the utter clarity, I really do appreciate it.
What I meant was:
Or even less specifically, Do you think they could be one of the reformations throughout time, not necessarily THE one and only or the last?
Thanks.
SageTree
Well, i don't think so because he claimed to be a Prophet, and many people claimed to be so after the death of Prophet Mohamed, so he is not special in anyway.
Prophet Mohamed mentioned to us clearly, as did the Quran, that Prophet Mohamed will be the last Prophet.
If he claimed to be just a scholar then i would have giving it another thought, a Prophet? nah.
nazz
Doubting Thomas
I'm sure that is interesting but I can't read it because it is in French.
Thanks, I just wondered what your opinion was, not necessarily what was right or wrong.
I can dig your logic though. Thanks for taking the time to work that out with me
In english.
Tariq Ramadan
Thanks, I just wondered what your opinion was, not necessarily what was right or wrong.
I can dig your logic though. Thanks for taking the time to work that out with me
You are most welcome.
Most of reformers stick to early islamic teachings as well since it's the foundation for their views.
For exemple: Abdulkadie Geylani, Imam Rabbani, Imam Gazali etc. but wahabi movement not an islamic reform. Islam has no need to change but each 100 years there are new comments by a Muslim reformer as I gave some names.
F0uad
Well-Known Member
Rational_Mind
Ahmadi Muslim
Are you asking in the same sense as was with Christianity?
What is the wahabi movement?
seeking4truth
Active Member
The reformer you ask about has come. He came as was prophesied by the Holy Prophet; in the 14th(Islamic) century. The teachers who came about every 100 years were not of the same status.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam was a Messiah like Jesus Christ. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's role was to return Islam to its original, beneficial teachings free from all the accumulated dogma of 1400 years.
IslamAhmadiyya - Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - Al Islam Online - Official Website
MTA International | MTA3 Al-Arabia daily program schedule
Unfortunately, like the Jewish authorities at the time of Jesus, the reformed teaching of MIrza Ghulam Ahmad is unacceptable to the establish hierarchy of Islam who prefer their traditional interpretation which can no longer benefit the followers.
So like the Jews before them the Muslims are destined for decline and exile from their own lands as their society disintegrates without the support of God.
At the time of Jesus it was the Romans who inflicted this on the Jews. Who will it be for the Muslims - time will tell! UN, Americans, EU, take your pick.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam was a Messiah like Jesus Christ. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's role was to return Islam to its original, beneficial teachings free from all the accumulated dogma of 1400 years.
IslamAhmadiyya - Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - Al Islam Online - Official Website
MTA International | MTA3 Al-Arabia daily program schedule
Unfortunately, like the Jewish authorities at the time of Jesus, the reformed teaching of MIrza Ghulam Ahmad is unacceptable to the establish hierarchy of Islam who prefer their traditional interpretation which can no longer benefit the followers.
So like the Jews before them the Muslims are destined for decline and exile from their own lands as their society disintegrates without the support of God.
At the time of Jesus it was the Romans who inflicted this on the Jews. Who will it be for the Muslims - time will tell! UN, Americans, EU, take your pick.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I agree with what I have coloured in magenta.
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I give here a list of Mujadduds:
LIST OF MUJADDIDS OF ISLAM
Century Name of Mujaddid Hijrah Christian Dates Era
1st Omar bin Abdul Aziz 60 101 717 720
2nd Ahmad bin Hanbal 164 241 780 855
3rd Abul Hasan Ashari 260 324 873 935
4th Abu Bakr Baqlani 7 403 7 1013
5th Al Ghazali 450 505 1058 1111
6th Abdul Qadir Jilanee 470 561 1077 I 166
7th Ibne Taymiyya 661 728 1263 1328
8th Ibne Hajar Asqalani 773 852 1372 1449
9th Jalal-ud-Deen Sayutee ? ?
10th Muhammad Tahir Gujratee ? ?
11th Ahmad Sirhindi 971 1034 1564 1624
12th Shah Wali Ullah 1113 1175 1702 1762
13th Ahmad Brelwi 1201 1246 1786 1831
14th Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1251 1326 1835 1908
https://www.alislam.org/books/religiousknowledge/sec5.html
Regards
Mirza claimed prophethood. He is not a reformer, just another false prophet. He claimed to be 2 persons (Jesus soul+mahdi).
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
G-d (Allah) appointed Mirza Ghualm Ahmad Messiah-(Second Coming)-Imam Mahdi, so did Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claim to be prophet-messenger of G-d (Allah). Moses could not deny or refuse the office (prophet-hood), the same happened with Jesus, it is so easy to understand. Isn't it? Please.
Regards
How do you know God appointed this man called Mirza?
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
The same way as Moses got to know that he was appointed by G-d (Allah,Yahweh) or Jesus or any other prophet/messenger of G-d.
How did Moses know? Please
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