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Will Trump Bow Out of the Presidential Race?

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Do you think any new revelations that Trump is a cad will change anyone's vote?
At this stage, I give him a 50% chance of winning....plus or minus 40%.

I would like to cling to what little faith I have left in humanity, and hope that even the lowest common denominator has enough decency not to support an admitted sexual predator.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I would like to cling to what little faith I have left in humanity, and hope that even the lowest common denominator has enough decency not to support an admitted sexual predator.
That leaves only 3rd party choices.
No, I've faith that humanity will pick a dangerous power mad leader.
 
That's why I pay more attention to professional pollsters and analysis.
538 is currently pegging the odds at 82% for Clinton and 18% Trump.
Tom

Those odds are practically meaningless. Just noise.

Their volatility tells you that alone, especially in an election as unprecedented as this one.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
This adds up to 100% horror.
I know you believe that but I don't.
I believe that Clinton will push the USA towards a more 1st world economy. Especially if she has some support in the Senate, which is looking more possible all the time.
I also believe that she is less likely to get us involved in a stupid war than Trump. Because she has statesmanship and is a known quantity on the global stage. Trump has more of a "shoot first, aim later" style. And the rest of the world will have to test him to see if they can bait him into something ill advised. Which they probably can.
Tom
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
I know you believe that but I don't.
I believe that Clinton will push the USA towards a more 1st world economy. Especially if she has some support in the Senate, which is looking more possible all the time.
I also believe that she is less likely to get us involved in a stupid war than Trump. Because she has statesmanship and is a known quantity on the global stage. Trump has more of a "shoot first, aim later" style. And the rest of the world will have to test him to see if they can bait him into something ill advised. Which they probably can.
Tom

I honestly have no idea what she's going to do. She flip flops even in her sleep. She's only consistent if history was on her side.

But at least she'll flip flop to the right side as opposed to a stubborn temperamental person. I wonder if Trump could rightfully be compared to the Filipino president.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I honestly have no idea what she's going to do. She flip flops even in her sleep. She's only consistent if history was on her side.
This is exactly why I think she will do that.
It's the current politically expedient thing to do. That's why Sanders got so much support in the primaries.

Just like she got on board with the LBGT thing when it was expedient.
Tom
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Donald Trump Apology Caps Day of Outrage Over Lewd Tape

This morning, there are reports that at least a few prominent Republican politicians are now calling on Trump to bow out of the presidential race. If the movement continues and grows, do you think Trump will bow out? Why or why not?

BONUS QUESTION ONE: If Trump were to step down, would that be a good or a bad thing for Republicans in down ticket races?

BONUS QUESTION TWO: If Trump were to step down, would that be a good or a bad thing for Clinton?
He's just saying what his constituents are thinking. At least he's willing to speak his mind.
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
My aching bones tell me that Trump still is likely to win, plus I don't put much reliance on polls. With Brexit, the polls showed that failing-- but it didn't.

Speaking of which, I was listening to a British historian last night and the dire predictions that many economists are having for the U.K.'s future, and it ain't pretty. Sorta like "death by a thousand cuts".
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Donald Trump Apology Caps Day of Outrage Over Lewd Tape

This morning, there are reports that at least a few prominent Republican politicians are now calling on Trump to bow out of the presidential race. If the movement continues and grows, do you think Trump will bow out? Why or why not?

BONUS QUESTION ONE: If Trump were to step down, would that be a good or a bad thing for Republicans in down ticket races?

BONUS QUESTION TWO: If Trump were to step down, would that be a good or a bad thing for Clinton?


I don't think Trump is guilty of anything more than some locker room banter, something the self-debasing cuck lords can never get a grasp on because they have forsaken their testicles and never dared to enter into the hall of manhood. It has no effect, it certainly isn't more important than all of the scandals that Hillary is directly involved in.

1) Never going to happen. Trumps worst "scandal" isn't even close to Hillary's best. His errors in judgement at this point are all moments in his life where they were candid personal comments. I don't even think they need to be addressed in the scope of the election.

2) If in this fairy tale where this issue mattered did lead into a problem for Trump, which it wont, but if it did... They're just put Mike Pence up there, he's polling strong as well and it'd be nothing more than a speed bump.

The only thing fueling this fire is a bunch of RINOS and leftists propaganda media. They're so biased it's ridiculous, go to Facebook trends and politics and see 9 of 10 stories bashing Trump. There isn't even an attempt to seem unbiased at all.

Hate Trump, but at least he isn't trying to get elected by voter fraud by dead people, and illegal immigrants.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
My aching bones tell me that Trump still is likely to win, plus I don't put much reliance on polls. With Brexit, the polls showed that failing-- but it didn't.

Speaking of which, I was listening to a British historian last night and the dire predictions that many economists are having for the U.K.'s future, and it ain't pretty. Sorta like "death by a thousand cuts".
I agree with you. What I'm seeing is a great example of what I'm calling the Liberal/Left/Democrat over-reach. Their profound confidence is going to be their undoing. Wait till the polls show that not too many really care about this latest Trump scandal.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
something the self-debasing cuck lords can never get a grasp on because they have forsaken their testicles and never dared to enter into the hall of manhood.
Jesus the reddit Trump base is like a living gamergate hash tag. Wouldn't be surprised if they wore a fedora and raised their meaty finger while saying 'actually it's about ethics in political journalism' when confronted with the nominee racism and sexism.

Making sexual assault into an ascension to manhood. *eyeroll*
 
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ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Anyway I think it's too late for Trump to step down in favor if another nominee. The ballots are printed and I think even some absentee voted are cast. All he could do is concede to Hillary. And he won't do that. He has enough people giving him excuses to be an arse.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I know you believe that but I don't.
I believe that Clinton will push the USA towards a more 1st world economy. Especially if she has some support in the Senate, which is looking more possible all the time.
I find her a mixed bag on economics.
She's socialistic, but she's also pro world trade.
But another big war would "trump" any positives she has.
I also believe that she is less likely to get us involved in a stupid war than Trump. Because she has statesmanship and is a known quantity on the global stage. Trump has more of a "shoot first, aim later" style. And the rest of the world will have to test him to see if they can bait him into something ill advised. Which they probably can.
Tom
She has a strong record of being pro-war.
The difference....
Trump might be dangerous.
Hillary has actually been dangerous, & continues to threaten & to undermine Obama's dealings with Iran.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
Donald Trump Apology Caps Day of Outrage Over Lewd Tape

This morning, there are reports that at least a few prominent Republican politicians are now calling on Trump to bow out of the presidential race. If the movement continues and grows, do you think Trump will bow out? Why or why not?

BONUS QUESTION ONE: If Trump were to step down, would that be a good or a bad thing for Republicans in down ticket races?

BONUS QUESTION TWO: If Trump were to step down, would that be a good or a bad thing for Clinton?
1: the Republicans would do better, but not much better, they are already tainted and it will take years for the stench to dissipate..
2: likely a bad thing for Clinton.
It's not his way to back down in the face of controversy,
especially when he has a shot at winning.
He has no serious shot at winning at this point.
Trump will only step down if it is a good business decision. That is the only thing that will override his ego.

Trump stepping down would not help or hurt the Republican party the Damage has already been done.
Trump stepping down would give Clinton and the Democrats a massive victory.
Trump can't make a "good" business decision, his expertise is in gaming the system with an eye to a bailout, he lacks insight and guts ... all he has is Kardasian style petty celebrity to trade on since he has clean run out of bail outs..
No one likes Hilary, but people don't have much of a choice when the only alternative is trash like Trump.
There are more people that like Clinton that you might expect, it is just not au courant to admit it.
If you're wrong, you must wear this hat for a week.....
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And if I'm wrong, I'll wear a pantsuit for a week.
It that a modern dunce cap?
That's why I pay more attention to professional pollsters and analysis.
538 is currently pegging the odds at 82% for Clinton and 18% Trump.
Tom
The important think is not the low absolute score, but the magnitude (and sign) of the first derivative.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
The only way Trump can win now is if left voters become complacent and don't turn out to vote...which is entirely possible.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Do you think any new revelations that Trump is a cad will change anyone's vote?
At this stage, I give him a 50% chance of winning....plus or minus 40%.
After last night, more Reps have been changing their vote. He seems like he's going back into "hemorrhaging supporters" mode.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The only way Trump can win now is if left voters become complacent and don't turn out to vote...which is entirely possible.
Liberals do generally turn out to vote for the president, but I don't think the Left will have to carry Hillary to victory just because so many Republicans are deciding to vote for neither. As long as people show up to vote and do not split the Democrat vote, I just don't see any possible way of Trump being able to win, especially with him loosing supporters just a month away from the election.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
The important think is not the low absolute score, but the magnitude (and sign) of the first derivative.
One of the main reasons I pay attention to 538 is that they understand whatever it is you wrote, and I don't.
Even there though, I pay more attention to trends than the specific numbers.
Tom
 
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