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Will Trump Bow Out of the Presidential Race?

Altfish

Veteran Member
Starting now, yes.
Had someone like him started back at the convention or something, maybe not. But Hillary, for all her flaws, is a formidable candidate.

How many of the people who booed Ryan at his event at his home state do you think would vote for him, instead of writing in Trump or staying home?
Tom
Interesting, I thought it was because Trump was such a bad candidate that Clinton was holding her lead.

I think the problem is the primary elections, to win the GOP nomination you have to be a right wing religious (still don't know how Trump lied about that) nut job. Then you have to put up against the Democratic nominee and to win votes you must not appear to be a right wing religious nut job. The two stance do not go together.

The Labour party in the UK have the same problem, they have elected Corbyn, who has left wing views that make Bernie Saunders seem like George Bush and is patently not a leader. BUT he is just what the Labour members want; trouble is, the UK electorate are unlikely to buy it.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Interesting, I thought it was because Trump was such a bad candidate that Clinton was holding her lead.
Despite what the media regularly report, she is not the violent ogre commonly portrayed. And she has the solid support of the DNC.

She would have been tough to beat for any Republican candidates. She's been planning this campaign for many years and has some of the country's best political operatives on her team.
Tom
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
I doubt that you will find a YouTube of any of those people admitting it.
But the fact is that Trump got only a delegate or two out of Colorado and Wyoming. He had closer to half the Rep voters in support. The Hoosiers around me knew all that and believed that Priebus and Co. were stealing the nomination and were angry about it. The state Indiana state officials were also trying to throw the primary to Cruz. Heck, even our governor (now Trumps VP Pence) endorsed Cruz in a last ditch effort to keep Trump out.
Really, all this stuff is easy to find out if you want to actually know.
Tom

Your messages on this are confusing. Here's what you've said so far:
- Actually he did try to get rid of Trump. I think it blew up in Priebus' face.
- I doubt that you will find a YouTube of any of those people admitting it.
- Really, all this stuff is easy to find out if you want to actually know.

I'm under impression Priebus during primaries gave Trump a fighting chance and didn't seek to eliminate him. You are saying otherwise. If the stuff you are saying is truly easy to find out, then just provide a link. I'm not readily doubting you, cause I would think a link would be around to a story where Priebus during primaries said something along lines of "Trump is not what Republicans stand for, and if it were up to me, he wouldn't get our nomination." I'm not sure if that exists. If it does, and it's easy to find something in that vein, then just share the link, please.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Despite what the media regularly report, she is not the violent ogre commonly portrayed. And she has the solid support of the DNC.
I've only seen her reported 2 ways....crazed invalid....& kindly grandmotherly statesman.
Her violent streak is seldom broached.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So because Trump doesn't support the T of LGBT directly
Trump doesn't stand for L, B, G, T, or any of the other modern additions. According to Trump, Obergefell v. Hodges was a bad decision. And if Trump plans of installing an anti-abortion Supreme Court nomination who will defund Planned Parenthood, what do you think will happen when the Republicans challenge Obergefell v. Hodges and when the Supreme Court hears North Carolina's anti-transgender law?
Trump has always stood for all types of Americans, it's really that simple.
He doesn't stand for women, Mexicans, Muslims, blacks, or homosexuals. His "Made in China" crap is even proof he does not stand for the working class that he so claims he does.
Their identities are irrelevant.
Their identities are very relevant when he so degrades and objectifies women, when he claims the Mexican government is sending it's worst and he "assumes some coming over are ok," it's relevant when he says "you people shouldn't have been granted your rights," and very relative when he says your entire life is a hell of dodging bullets. He does not stand for all Americans, and you are very delusional for thinking so.
It's amazing really, because I know many Trump supporters on this website would not like his Supreme Court nominations who are going to go "Ok, religion (specifically Conservative Christianity) says this, so ya'll are gonna do that now."
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I would think a link would be around to a story where Priebus during primaries said something along lines of "Trump is not what Republicans stand for, and if it were up to me, he wouldn't get our nomination."
I am kinda gobsmacked by the naivete of this.
Of course the top official of the GOP isn't going to say that on camera. Did Debbie Wasserman Schultz ever say "We have to stop this Sanders nonsense"? At least, on camera?

There are plenty of undeniable facts available. The Colorado Republican honchos gave all their state's delegates to Cruz. Do you think Priebus was unaware of the level of support Trump had in Colorado at the time?
I don't understand why you think political operatives like Priebus always tell the truth and the whole truth.
Tom
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
And I find a deafening silence on her voting for 2 wars, & threatening more.
I suspect that the reason other things get more attention is that the USA is fundamentally a violent culture. A willingness to settle differences with force isn't particularly unpopular, as long as the victims tend to be foreigners. Especially when they are Muslims.
Tom
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
I am kinda gobsmacked by the naivete of this.
Of course the top official of the GOP isn't going to say that on camera. Did Debbie Wasserman Schultz ever say "We have to stop this Sanders nonsense"? At least, on camera?

There are plenty of undeniable facts available. The Colorado Republican honchos gave all their state's delegates to Cruz. Do you think Priebus was unaware of the level of support Trump had in Colorado at the time?
I don't understand why you think political operatives like Priebus always tell the truth and the whole truth.
Tom

I don't, but I now see you back pedaling cause you know you can't find the link that supports your take on this. That's cool. Kind of a non-issue at this point anyway.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I don't, but I now see you back pedaling cause you know you can't find the link that supports your take on this.
Where am I back pedaling? There are thousands of links to the various bits of information that I included as I came to my views on the subject.

Tom
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
Where am I back pedaling? There are thousands of links to the various bits of information that I included as I came to my views on the subject.

Tom

Back pedaling on my request for you to provide the link showing Priebus actually sought to eliminate Trump from Republican primaries. You claimed it is easy to find, so one would think you would easily find a link and share it.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
You claimed it is easy to find, so one would think you would easily find a link and share it.
I said no such thing.
I said that there are thousands of links to the many and various bits of information I used to form my opinion.
Tom
 
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