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Will Trump Bow Out of the Presidential Race?

Sapiens

Polymathematician
That is unfortunate in my opinion.
But it does appear that the GOP is royally screwed.
I remember well when the Republicans had many smart and principled conservative statesmen. They seem to be on the verge of being stamped out by Trump and his supporters.
Tom
The weird thing is that most of the Trump supporters were (or would have been) Democrats prior to 1964.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Today at Republican establishment Paul Ryan's "rally" in Wisconsin, when Ryan came on stage the attendees angry at his GOPe betrayal of Trump and the base, the crowd started shouting - then screaming - "Shame on you! Shame on you!" and "Globalist traitor!" and "You betrayed TRUMP!" where it was so bad he had to cut his "speech" short and rush off the stage and be escorted by security as he tried to escape the angry voters.
Sounds like the same sort of extremists wanting hillary in prison without due process. Loud mouths will be loud mouths, birds of a feather really.

You paint it very one sided of course. Here is what others say.
House Speaker Paul Ryan was greeted with a mixture of boos and cheers at the rally in his Wisconsin congressional district.
Trump supporters yelled "Donald Trump!" at Ryan throughout his speech, while most of the crowd cheered the speaker's comments.
"I do not condone his remarks and I cannot defend them," Pence said.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/politics/paul-ryan-rally-kicks-off-without-trump-and-pence/331042836
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I get the feeling that Trump might do better in the election than he is doing in the polls.
But he might do much worse.
What blowing off the GOP high muckety mucks will cost him is in his already extremely weak ground game. They control the "get out the vote" efforts that would make a huge difference to a candidate like Trump.
He is very unpopular among anyone but his base. A slew of unmotivated Republican voters plus no ground game , then a bunch of highly motivated Democrats and the Democrat's well organized and well funded GOTV could mean an epic rout for the GOP.
Tom
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The weird thing is that most of the Trump supporters were (or would have been) Democrats prior to 1964.

Absolutely true, but also time waits for no man.

There are really two parties:

1) RINOS + Democrats + Mainstream Media + Wall St + Globalist Foreign Influencers + Racist Movements (Nation of Islam, New Black Panthers, and to some extent BLM).

2) Trump + The People.

People need to put the silly emo nonsense and the SJW rhetoric and realize they are in league with the scum of the earth. Don't vote Trump because you personally like or dislike Trump, vote Trump because he cares what the people want. He's the first peoples candidate in most of your lifetimes. They hate Trump because he's on your side, so think about that on ballot day.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Wow! I am looking at what the people captured on their phones, and Ryan was really heckled. Then it got even MORE worse for this GOPe cheap labor establishment turd Ryan, when Wisconsin Ron Johnson and Scott Walker got on the stage with Ryan, the people started screaming "See ya, Paul! *******! God bless Trump! (FU) Ryan! FU!"

Really spirited. It looks like the BUSH-CLINTON, CLINTON-BUSH GOPe Democratic Establishment orchestrated and pre-planned attack on Trump by the cheap labor agendists is backfiring and the fever pitch pro-Trump is going high signal now, and even the heads of the most "evangelical" type forums just said "FU FOX News, F your attack on Trump you f'ing globalist **** heads!" - wow, I love this Christian spirit when it gets real!

I just heard on the news that Trump had just come out on a balcony at some Trump Tower and there was a crowd below, no small crowd, who all started cheering him. This is turning into a "Peronist on the Balcony" moment. I think it is looking like the pro-fever pitch for Trump is rising even higher.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Wow! I am looking at what the people captured on their phones, and Ryan was really heckled. Then it got even MORE worse for this GOPe cheap labor establishment turd Ryan, when Wisconsin Ron Johnson and Scott Walker got on the stage with Ryan, the people started screaming "See ya, Paul! *******! God bless Trump! (FU) Ryan! FU!"

Really spirited. It looks like the BUSH-CLINTON, CLINTON-BUSH GOPe Democratic Establishment orchestrated and pre-planned attack on Trump by the cheap labor agendists is backfiring and the fever pitch pro-Trump is going high signal now, and even the heads of the most "evangelical" type forums just said "FU FOX News, F your attack on Trump you f'ing globalist **** heads!" - wow, I love this Christian spirit when it gets real!

I just heard on the news that Trump had just come out on a balcony at some Trump Tower and there was a crowd below, no small crowd, who all started cheering him. This is turning into a "Peronist on the Balcony" moment. I think it is looking like the pro-fever pitch for Trump is rising even higher.


Here you go: Trump Tower Vid.

 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
"God Bless Donald Trump! FU Ryan! FU Ryan!" - It's a beautiful thing.

And then, after he came to the balcony, with the crowds of supporters gathering, THEN DONALD walked into the street to the cheering crowds!

I LOVE IT! WE LOVE HIM! Overthrow the crony capitalist BUSH-CLINTON, CLINTON-BUSH establishment! To **** with McConnell, Ryan, McCain, and the other turds who want to take the voice of our people away, and the CLINTON-MCCAIN collusion that is hell bent on war with Russia.


Bill and Hillary bombed beautiful Yugoslavia! Belgrade! Serbia! They committed WAR CRIMES! Stop the BUSH-CLINTON, CLINTON-BUSH OLIGARCHY!
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Trump does not represent my interests, will not appoint Supreme Court who will protect my rights, and he sure is the hell not someone I support. The "Trump + The People" thing doesn't work.

So because Trump doesn't support the T of LGBT directly (rather he just ignores it, and considers you an American like everyone else) you're going to vote against the greater good. You are just a troll, I swear it! :D Trump has always stood for all types of Americans, it's really that simple. Their identities are irrelevant.

Trump doesn't represent every damn thing I want, but that's just completely unrealistic.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I wonder if his security men can keep him alive long enough to become president.

I hope they can and continue to provide protection after his term of office.

I also wonder if Hillary will dare to bring up the issue of sex exploitation at the next debate.

If she does, she and Bill will be fair game.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I think the Democrats have to be careful that Trump doesn't stand down.
Because most alternative candidates will beat Hillary
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I think the Democrats have to be careful that Trump doesn't stand down.
Because most alternative candidates will beat Hillary
I don't think that this is still true. There is a huge chunk of the Republican voters who won't vote for anybody they perceive as "GOPe".
Several of them post here on RF, I believe.

There are millions more of them. Check out the comments section below any news story about the defections.
Tom
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I don't think that this is still true. There is a huge chunk of the Republican voters who won't vote for anybody they perceive as "GOPe".
Several of them post here on RF, I believe.

There are millions more of them. Check out the comments section below any news story about the defections.
Tom
I understand that it is too late to have anyone other than Pence run instead, but do you really believe that if (say) Paul Ryan was running instead of Trump that Hillary would still win?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's not just sharing party affiliation, it's them supporting Trump that hurts.
They're running ads about a GOP candidate around here where it is Trump saying something awful and then cut to her saying "I support Trump".
It makes her look really bad.
Republicans running for office needn't express support for Trump.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I understand that it is too late to have anyone other than Pence run instead, but do you really believe that if (say) Paul Ryan was running instead of Trump that Hillary would still win?
Starting now, yes.
Had someone like him started back at the convention or something, maybe not. But Hillary, for all her flaws, is a formidable candidate.

How many of the people who booed Ryan at his event at his home state do you think would vote for him, instead of writing in Trump or staying home?
Tom
 
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