Trailblazer
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Sadly, Christianity is more about the Christian doctrines, Jesus is God, the bodily resurrection, and the return of Jesus and Judgment Day, than it is about love God and love your neighbor.
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Without God there is no hope
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samtonga43
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I don't see my pointing out your continual focus on yourself as criticism, Tb. I honestly do think it is something you ought to consider. I think you would benefit from less emphasis on yourself in your posts. Maybe ask yourself why you feel the need for all the first- person-pronouns?
You have a high opinion of Christians?
samtonga43
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Your brush is too broad.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
What Christ taught and His example are reasons to be Christian, but you're right that today there is little difference between how Christians act and atheists, for example, and atheists point to that and say "religion is not a good thing, and just divides people", which brings to my mind something that Abdu'l-Baha said:
His third teaching is that religion is a mighty stronghold, but that it must engender love, not malevolence and hate. Should it lead to malice, spite, and hate, it is of no value at all. For religion is a remedy, and if the remedy bring on disease, then put it aside.
(Abdu'l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu'l-Baha, p. 248)
This are similar statements he said. Anyway, this is a factor of why in "western" nations, they are getting progresively less religious, this religious strife. Materialism is also a factor in this.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
Whatever, but Christianity has become too much of that, however widespread that is. You seem to exemplify that.
samtonga43
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Sorry, can you be more clear? You say that Christianity has become too much of 'that'. Too much of …. what? And you say that I exemplify 'that'. What is 'that'?
You won't see two humanists in a discussion like this one. You won't read, "You're humanism isn't tolerant or inclusive enough. You're not loving enough. You're not fair enough. Your reasoning needs recharging." Why do we suppose that is?
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I think you would benefit from less focus on me in your posts.
I also think you would benefit from asking yourself why you need to look at me instead of looking at yourself.
26: O SON OF BEING! How couldst thou forget thine own faults and busy thyself with the faults of others? Whoso doeth this is accursed of Me.
The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 10
Am I supposed to say "you" when I am talking about my personal situation?
Or is your point that I should not start a thread about a personal situation that I am dealing with?
An “I” message or “I” statement is a style of communication that focuses on the feelings or beliefs of the speaker rather than thoughts and characteristics that the speaker attributes to the listener.
Mental health professionals commonly encourage people in therapy to use “I” statements when communicating with others.
“I” Message - GoodTherapy.org Therapy Blog
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Trailblazer
Veteran Member
But there is a difference, since many atheists act better than some Christians.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
^^^ This. You are once again spot on.
samtonga43
Well-Known Member
And many Christians act better than some atheists.
samtonga43
Well-Known Member
So you understand Truthseeker's #145? Can you translate it?
samtonga43
Well-Known Member
Ah! Well, I suppose if you're here for therapy of some kind you'd better carry on talking about yourself.
It can get a bit tedious, because it's all much of a muchness, and I still think you would gain more benefit from getting out and about with others IRL
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, that is not what I am here for. I am here to have a discussion about the subject matter in the OP.
I am not here to hear you carrying on about me, as much as you cannot help yourself.
If it is too tedious for you to read a couple of posts where I am talking about my personal situation with nice people like @Nimos and @Truthseeker by all means just don't read them. Of course you could also contribute to the thread by talking about what I wrote in the OP. It is tedious reading all your posts about me.
I already got out and talked with others, real Christians who live by the Golden Rule and love their neighbor.
Maybe you could benefit from joining the group.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
@Trailblazer said this:
Sadly, Christianity is more about the Christian doctrines, Jesus is God, the bodily resurrection, and the return of Jesus and Judgment Day, than it is about love God and love your neighbor.
Christianity has been somewhat concerned with the above Christian doctrines such as she outlined, however much that should be, and that seems to be what you are concentrating on the most.
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Truthseeker
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This is meaningless. Who can tell one way or the other?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
You can't tell when someone is behaving badly?This is meaningless. Who can tell one way or the other?
My cats are more respectful than some people.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
I wasn't clear, sorry. How can you tell that the Christians are worse as a group that atheiists as a group or vice versa? We have a small sample to choose from. That's statistician language. The smaller the sample the less dependable the results.