It's clear to me that @Twilight Hue identifies as a rebellious trucker who is out to defy smokey bear so he can get his load of tampons delivered a day early. So meaningless to the discussion.What am I supposed to glean from this?
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It's clear to me that @Twilight Hue identifies as a rebellious trucker who is out to defy smokey bear so he can get his load of tampons delivered a day early. So meaningless to the discussion.What am I supposed to glean from this?
Only slack-jawed, mouth-breathing cretins.
It's clear to me that @Twilight Hue identifies as a rebellious trucker who is out to defy smokey bear so he can get his load of tampons delivered a day early. So meaningless to the discussion.
No you don't. If you were genuinely interested and paying any attention you would already know.I would like to know why DeSantis is bad.
So, it is fear?Mostly it's the social issues. Abortion and LGBT rights.
Because he doesn't want drag queens to read fairy tales to kindergartners?No you don't. If you were genuinely interested and paying any attention you would already know.
Because he doesn't want drag queens to read fairy tales to kindergartners?
He's right.
In brief, "woke" means "alert to injustice." That's what it was intended to mean when coined, and to me, that's what it still means. DeSantis is outspokenly and unabashedly anti-woke, meaning he rejects any scenario where anyone should be alert enough to injustice to bring it up and hope to do anything about it.I would like to know why DeSantis is bad.
I was thinking that finding a heterosexual and handsome politician is like finding life on Mars, in my country.There are countless reasons, although demonizing the LGBT community and fabricating fake controversies is among them.
Partially, but also the way they interpret some verses of the Bible fuel those views too.So, it is fear?
I figured as much, but really...
Well, they also employ shunning and banning, but they are definitely more community minded. America was not founded on being community minded.That's because the economic system is bad.
Small communities, perfect order, zero crime rate.
I mean...look at the Amish communities.
How does that help them perform their duties honestly and competently?I was thinking that finding a heterosexual and handsome politician is like finding life on Mars, in my country.
Lucky Florida.
There’s a trend in the Republican Party that the more outspoken they are about gays the more likely they themselves are gay and in denial. Plus he’s not handsome. He has a fat unemotional face, and his head bobs back and forth when he tries to explain his bigoted nonsense. So you and his mother thinks he’s handsome.I was thinking that finding a heterosexual and handsome politician is like finding life on Mars, in my country.
Lucky Florida.
Ok...will you admit that Hunter Biden is handsome, at least?There’s a trend in the Republican Party that the more outspoken they are about gays the more likely they themselves are gay and in denial. Plus he’s not handsome. He has a fat unemotional face, and his head bobs back and forth when he tries to explain his bigoted nonsense. So you and his mother thinks he’s handsome.
Right? About what?Because he doesn't want drag queens to read fairy tales to kindergartners?
He's right.
I think children get confused.Right? About what?
People in costumes reading to kids is bad, how exactly?
Are you opposed to fun or something?
Jesus Christ, I grew up watching such a thing. Who cares?
Exactly -- men dressed as clowns, or as pandas, or Smokey Bears, or giants, or ogres, or puppet giraffes or chickens or frogs, all manner of folk and non-folk in strange costumes can read to kids. BUT NOT MEN IN DRESSES!Right? About what?
People in costumes reading to kids is bad, how exactly?
Are you opposed to fun or something?
Jesus Christ, I grew up watching such a thing. Who cares?
I guess I knew that at some level... but even after decades, it doesn't really make any sense.Partially, but also the way they interpret some verses of the Bible fuel those views too.
I'm lumping "woke" and DEI ideas into the same category. I'm not attached to this lumping, so I don't want to get side-tracked if all you want to do is some un-lumping. But let's try to keep the lumping / unlumping separate from the point of the OP.
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For the sake of this discussion, I'm happy to grant that the woke / DEI folks are well intended. You know "diversity, equality, inclusion", those all sound like good ideas! But the devil is in the details. For example, there is a HUGE difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.
But what I see is that there is a powerful, vocal group within the woke / DEI community who push their solutions quite dogmatically and often intolerantly. Further, part of their dogma asserts that many of us aren't even allowed into the conversation!! E.g., regardless of a cis-white-male's credentials or expertise, he's not allowed to have a voice in the conversation.
This dogmatic approach is hurting ALL liberals. I've linked to a portion of a speech that DeSantis gave recently. IMO, because of the extraordinary claims and proposals of the woke / DEI crowd, someone like DeSantis can push back quite reasonably. He talks about "quality of character". As a liberal, I have to agree with that idea. He talks (indirectly), about problems with identity politics. Again, as a liberal, I have to agree.
So we need to be suspicious of all dogma, and especially post-truth, extraordinary, fuzzy-on-the-details, no discussions allowed dogma.
This kind of thing is giving easy fodder to the diseased right.
I'm lumping "woke" and DEI ideas into the same category. I'm not attached to this lumping, so I don't want to get side-tracked if all you want to do is some un-lumping. But let's try to keep the lumping / unlumping separate from the point of the OP.
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For the sake of this discussion, I'm happy to grant that the woke / DEI folks are well intended. You know "diversity, equality, inclusion", those all sound like good ideas! But the devil is in the details. For example, there is a HUGE difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.
But what I see is that there is a powerful, vocal group within the woke / DEI community who push their solutions quite dogmatically and often intolerantly. Further, part of their dogma asserts that many of us aren't even allowed into the conversation!! E.g., regardless of a cis-white-male's credentials or expertise, he's not allowed to have a voice in the conversation.
This dogmatic approach is hurting ALL liberals. I've linked to a portion of a speech that DeSantis gave recently. IMO, because of the extraordinary claims and proposals of the woke / DEI crowd, someone like DeSantis can push back quite reasonably. He talks about "quality of character". As a liberal, I have to agree with that idea. He talks (indirectly), about problems with identity politics. Again, as a liberal, I have to agree.
So we need to be suspicious of all dogma, and especially post-truth, extraordinary, fuzzy-on-the-details, no discussions allowed dogma.
This kind of thing is giving easy fodder to the diseased right.