Women need to start boycotting sports

[Estro Felino]

I can't box, I would lose to anyone.

Give me an axe lol

Neither she can.

 

[The Hammer]

Neither she can.

Ok?

 

[Estro Felino]

Ok?

I think you would win.
Because she has the strength of a woman.

 

[Alien826]

I have narrow hips, a big fat gut and definite boob-like "things", and I'm a man. OK, I've let myself go in later years.

Also ...

I cannot understand why anyone, male or female would want to participate in a "sport" where another person tries to hit you.

I did some karate years ago, but that was about self defense, and I never considered it a sport.

 

[Altfish]

In looking up this story I found that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif who also competed the Tokyo Olympics is not trans and is not intersexed. There are unsubstantiated reports of Khelif having a Y chromosome but they remain unsubstantiated. She is a she. She was assigned female at birth, she has internal and external female reproductive organs. Conservative media is doing what it does best, fear mongering and being lets say less than honest about the situation

Shock ! Horror !
Right wing media bending the facts to suit their agenda.

 

[VoidCat]

There should be a separate category for intersexual people.

Im not intersex. Im trans and assigned female at birth. Here's a photo of me pre T

Spoiler

Here's my T levels and estrogen levels before T

My estrogen levels were high and T levels were normal(I thought they were low for an afab person but they actually were normal.).

This is before i started T.
And here's a thing pointing out i had breast milk despite never have been pregnant prior to T. Which im still dealing with.

keep in mind i was assigned female at bbirth. These records and photo are before HRT starting T. Im am trans i have no intersex conditions.

I had small breasts and no hips then.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If she wants to compete against women, she only needs to do one thing: taking a hormonal therapy, so she gains the hormonal levels that are compatible with that of the other women.

I respect this lady...but it is about fairness.

How do you know that she has elevated male hormone levels? I have only seen accusations. I have not seen any evidence. And Turkey is about as anti-trans as a nation gets. Do you really think that she was pretending since birth to being a sex that she is not?

This appears to be a trans issue only because a woman has been accused of being trans when she is not.

 

[Estro Felino]

How do you know that she has elevated male hormone levels? I have only seen accusations. I have not seen any evidence. And Turkey is about as anti-trans as a nation gets. Do you really think that she was pretending since birth to being a sex that she is not?

This appears to be a trans issue only because a woman has been accused of being trans when she is not.

No...she is a woman according to the law.
She was born as intersexual...that is with a specific condition that gave her that particular body structure.

Are you saying that the two athletes have two identical body structures?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

How do you know that she has elevated male hormone levels? I have only seen accusations. I have not seen any evidence. And Turkey is about as anti-trans as a nation gets. Do you really think that she was pretending since birth to being a sex that she is not?

This appears to be a trans issue only because a woman has been accused of being trans when she is not.

Who is from Türkiye? I though she was from Algeria?

 

[Subduction Zone]

This woman is a boxer. She has breasts and hips.
It's a matter of hormonal levels.
It's about fairness.

Sorry, but not all woman have well developed breast. Long long before trans was an issue there was girl in my class that was almost as flat as a pancake. One of the class clowns would even make cruel jokes about it by arching his back and stroking his chest.

 

[Estro Felino]

Im not intersex. Im trans and assigned female at birth. Here's a photo of me pre T

Spoiler

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Here's my T levels and estrogen levels before T

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My estrogen levels were high and T levels were normal(I thought they were low for an afab person but they actually were normal.).

This is before i started T.
And here's a thing pointing out i had breast milk despite never have been pregnant prior to T. Which im still dealing with.

keep in mind i was assigned female at bbirth. These records and photo are before HRT starting T. Im am trans i have no intersex conditions.

I had small breasts and no hips then.

This is irrelevant.
We are speaking of intersexuality. She is not trans.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I was reading today about the woman olympic boxer who walked off in pain after only 46 seconds and openly cried. This was not some pansy woman. She was a world class boxer. She was forced to compete against someone who had male chromosomes.

I can't blame her. I did Kung Fu for seven years at a school that had only two women, so we had no choice but to spar with men. I'll tell you, after seven years, I got pretty good, but never stopped taking a beating from the guys. After seven years, I was still scared to spar. They HURT me. I think I became a better sparrer because I was forced to spar with those far better than me. But was it a level playing field? Absolutely not.

I personally have absolutely nothing against trans women. I think in general, society need to be far more tolerant of them. But what's happening in women's sports takes it to an extreme that is insane.

Forcing women in sports to compete against biological males is not right. Males are not only stronger, but they have thicker bones, larger hearts, larger lungs, greater hemoglobin levels, and are taller and have longer limbs. There is no way that the best women can compete against the best men.

Dare I use the M word? Yes. This is misogyny. They are disappearing women.

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I fully agree with you. This woke equality garbage is destroying women's sports by the boatload and it's showing in a very tactile way.

 

[Estro Felino]

Sorry, but not all woman have well developed breast. Long long before trans was an issue there was girl in my class that was almost as flat as a pancake. One of the class clowns would even make cruel jokes about it by arching his back and stroking his chest.

Question. You are a man.
If you fought against Brigitte Nielsen, do you think you would win?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who is from Türkiye? I though she was from Algeria?

My mistake, I saw the crescent and star flag and my brain said "Turkey".

Algeria is even worse to trans people probably.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I fully agree with you. This woke equality garbage is destroying women's sports by the boatload and it's showing in a very tactile way.

LOL There's nothing "woke" going on here.

 

[Estro Felino]

I fully agree with you. This woke equality garbage is destroying women's sports by the boatload and it's showing in a very tactile way.

Riley Gaines is one of the victims.

 

[VoidCat]

This is irrelevant.
We are speaking of intersexuality. She is not trans.

Im pointing out hormone levels do not mean youll have bigger breasts and hips are. The levels listed are the same as a ciswomans because they are prior to me starting T therapy.

You dont have to be intersex to have small breasts and hips. You can have have normal E and T levels and and still have a small chest. Im AFAB these levels are prior to T therapy same with the body in the photo. My levels were the same as a ciswoman's my estrogen may have even been higher and i had normal T levels for someone assigned female at birth no hormone therapy.

What did you not get from that?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Question. You are a man.
If you fought against Brigitte Nielsen, do you think you would win?

It would depend when. Twenty or thirty years ago? Yes, but that is more due to training that anything else.

 

[Estro Felino]

LOL There's nothing "woke" going on here.

Brava.
It's how they are instrumentalizing the issue politically...that makes it unsolvable.
On both sides.

 

[VoidCat]

Im not intersex. Im trans and assigned female at birth. Here's a photo of me pre T

Spoiler

View attachment 95013

Here's my T levels and estrogen levels before T

View attachment 95014View attachment 95016
My estrogen levels were high and T levels were normal(I thought they were low for an afab person but they actually were normal.).

This is before i started T.
And here's a thing pointing out i had breast milk despite never have been pregnant prior to T. Which im still dealing with.

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keep in mind i was assigned female at bbirth. These records and photo are before HRT starting T. Im am trans i have no intersex conditions.

I had small breasts and no hips then.

@Estro Felino. And @SkepticThinker. Since she marked the post informative- I forgot to add this screen shot I edited to add it...its the screenshot pointing out breast milk in a nonpregant person...which i had prior to starting T still had tiny breasts