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Would Jesus put up with the very wealthy and very poor?

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
The man is basically lumping neoliberals, liberals and socialists in the same bag since a large quantity of the neoliberal politicians have migrated from the Republican Party to the Democrat Party during the rise of the Tea Party and the radicalization of the Right in the US. The man makes points of party politics and assess economy and politics only through the lenses of party politics probably because he doesn't know enough of politics, history and economics to discuss it at an ideological level or from using any historical or economical framework. It's a lowbrow political editorial. You should probably ignore it unless you enjoy futile debates.
I'd still like to hear how they think the economy works, because in the real world, in order to "destroy small businesses" like they claim, a small disorganized political group like "liberals" would require near godlike powers of manipulation and superhuman dedication to such a single-minded nonsense goal.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
I'd still like to hear how they think the economy works, because in the real world, in order to "destroy small businesses" like they claim, a small disorganized political group like "liberals" would require near godlike powers of manipulation and superhuman dedication to such a single-minded nonsense goal.

He already did. He blames the democrats for the creation of the major free trade agreements that allowed corporate consolidation. He blames liberals for the creation of the welfare state and the rejection of "protestant work ethics" in favor of a more socialist view of work and businesses. He blames liberals for creating and supporting the giant tech industry and the technological revolution they are bringing which leads to ever increasing robotization of non-specialized industrial work and the creation of the so called "knowledge economy" which is anathema to the working class which is by definition uneducated and thus left behind in this new economic and industrial revolution. He might have made a pass at blaming liberals for immigration which pits the poor working class against one another in a competition for the dwindling "low skill, but well payed" jobs, but I am not too sure. He of course fear that the dreaded liberals will destroy liberty by transforming society in some sort of technocracy where the leaders of great corporation working in the multimedia and software engineering will take over all the important levers of power in society.
 
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74x12

Well-Known Member
I'd still like to hear how they think the economy works, because in the real world, in order to "destroy small businesses" like they claim, a small disorganized political group like "liberals" would require near godlike powers of manipulation and superhuman dedication to such a single-minded nonsense goal.
A small disorganized political group? The entire world is blatantly ruled by a current liberal establishment including America, Europe etc.

If you guys don't even know that; then no wonder you think I'm ignorant and/or crazy. :D We're literally living in different worlds right? I just came out of a parallel universe and here I am. Hi. :rolleyes:
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Would Jesus put up with unreasonable wealth and unreasonable poverty?
He didn't accept it back then, and I don't think he would now.
He would definitely support the centre-left, I think.
I would go with the examples that he lived by and what was written.

It would depend on the case.

Of course, if it is "unreasonable" then it remains unreasonable.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I do not even try to align His political ideas (and in my opinion He does have political ideas) with any group in existence, I simply say "it is the Lord's." But in charity to neighbor to me it is self-evident that He would not allow injustice which is often a cause of these situations (consider the economic injustices which are the background of the Gospel and is a reason why He speaks of money so much, First-Century Galilee, Judae, Samaria, and the rest, were a mess), as He Himself spoke against that in various decrees. But He is not against wealth either, but that kind alone. That is all in my opinion of course.
What did Jesus day or do to show that he was not against?
O will be showing many verses to show that was definitely against wealth and greed.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
It's the liberals who are making the wealth divide way worse. They've destroyed small businesses on purpose which is poorer people's ticket out of poverty. People are supposed to work hard in their chosen field of industry and eventually go into business for themselves so they can actually move up through social strata; but that dream has been stolen by so called liberals. (Fakers) The hope of the poor has always been opportunity not "equality of outcome" which is nonsense and never will happen.

Even Jesus said "The poor you have with you always" So if you believe Jesus then you will seek to give poor people more opportunity to rise out of poverty but you won't seek for "equality of outcome" which is a pipe dream and only leads to broken dreams in the end and shattered lives.

The liberals want a dependent class that always votes for more freebies. So it's in their best interest to keep people poor.

They've made an unholy alliance with the biggest corporations in the world because they know that the fewer corporations get a share of the pie; the more money and power will be centralized in their hands. This is why liberals and mega corporations are now working together and getting away with it. As an American I know the days when the Democratic party was the party of the little people are long gone.

Jesus certainly would stand up for the poor people I think; but not like center-leftists do it. They just support policies that ultimately enslave the poor. Even if they mean well they should know the old saying that the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

For example has anyone considered that it's all really convenient that poor people don't want to go back to their jobs since covid? Liberals think it's a good thing; but actually the government is stabbing poor people in the back again. They are in bed with mega corporations who want to do away with low skilled workers and replace them with robots. Now that no one wants to go back to work they have the perfect opportunity and excuse to get that done which will insure that poor people have even less opportunities. That as once they awaken out of their free stuff from the government dream and realize they do need a job. But there won't be any jobs. These people are always scheming while most of are just busy trying to survive. It's not even fair.

I suggest people invest in robotics tech and if you have a business try to get your own automated systems in now; so you can keep up.

They want AI everything. So called "smart government" is coming. That is AI controlled government. You really think it's going to be fair when AI decides everything including court cases? But it's not necessarily. It's the image of the beast in Revelation. The AI government can't really be trusted anymore than the people who program it and ultimately when Ai becomes sentient it could make even more anti-human decisions. Once this takes place; no one will even hear the screams of the dying; because they'll be silenced first.

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Are you saying that Jesus would be a republican?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I believe He accepts all those who receive Him as Lord and Savior.

I believe you are in error both about wealth and poverty. I do believe He considers giving to the poor a mitzvah.

I believe He raises up who he wishes. Trump won.
You think that Jesus put Trump in power?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
A small disorganized political group? The entire world is blatantly ruled by a current liberal establishment including America, Europe etc.

If you guys don't even know that; then no wonder you think I'm ignorant and/or crazy. :D We're literally living in different worlds right? I just came out of a parallel universe and here I am. Hi. :rolleyes:

The reptilians are liberals?!
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I believe He accepts all those who receive Him as Lord and Savior.

I believe you are in error both about wealth and poverty. I do believe He considers giving to the poor a mitzvah.

I believe He raises up who he wishes. Trump won.

Didn't he say something about camels and needles?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Are you saying liberals are reptiles? Actually makes sense now that you mention it.

Haha! No, just that global elitist conspiracies tend to involve lizard people. ;)

Not that I don't think the uber-wealthy have clean hands when it comes to economics by any means. But suggesting that they are liberal and the cause of current wealth inequalities seems to be mistaking the menu for the food, so to speak.
 
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