Would You Leave Christians to Go to Hell?

[Pastek]

Say you're Christ, you come back and find the warnings you gave of the deception weren't clear enough; so when you come back, you find that Christianity is basically the same as the Pharisees were teaching, written by Pharisees, and they're not smart enough to recognize they're following the lie....

Now how far would you go trying to help a group of people who contradict what you said, claim to follow you, yet show themselves to be hypocrites, and basically are facing the other way....

• What effort would you put in?
• Is it worth it to get a load of people to understand, when they've chosen to go the other way?
  
• Even though the text doesn't allocate for you to go and change them all, would you for the sake of the greater good, that it is an unfair deception, and they're just naive in many ways?
• What method would you use to reach them all, when clearly you telling them all they're deceived, will cause animosity, and its doubtful many will even accept it?
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I think that a prophet is send to warn people, to give them advices and present them what they can face if they don't.
He doesn't send them to Hell as he is not God. To send people to Hell needs first a Judgement but this judgement is not made by Jesus himself.

I believe that when he'll come back it will not be the end of the world so he will just explain what people should change in them.
I guess he will show them what they haven't understand well and that's all.

 

[wizanda]

WOW

What is the 'Wow' for, haven't you realized yet, what I've been saying on here for the last 12 years?...And would've started at 5 years old, if I'd known how to read.

Also, I wouldn't come for Christians but all intelligent beings capable of reasoning.

Thank you for this suggestion, have pondered getting all the spiritual people here on earth together, and by overall consensus showing Christians they're going the wrong way...That could fit within a prophetic sense as well.

I guess he will show them what they haven't understand well and that's all.

Yeah this isn't saying we're sending them to Hell; saying many of them are already heading for it, and is there a way to correct them, by informing where they are going wrong... Just like you're saying.

The problem is, due to Islam spending the last 1500 years telling them the Bible is corrupt, many have become rigid to seeing the deception within their own book.

 

[savagewind]

What is the 'Wow' for, haven't you realized yet, what I've been saying on here for the last 12 years?...And would've started at 5 years old, if I'd known how to read.

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12 Years! WOW.

I think everything you say in post one is true but I think it might be removed because you called them stupid. LOL

I know what I think he will do, it must be a secret, but my gender is illegal for teaching. hahahahaha I am laughing out loud.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Thank you for this suggestion, have pondered getting all the spiritual people here on earth together, and by overall consensus showing Christians they're going the wrong way...That could fit within a prophetic sense as well.

I believe that prophets don't work well, nor saints or angels.
Bhagavad Gita might have been my first step but now, my God speaks to me in the form of reasoning.
I've lived as a christian for 1.5 years and gained nothing but self righteousness.
I went out of my original Hindu faith to convert to Christianity only to leave it after 1.5 years.
After reading the Gita, I began to understand to reality of things and most importantly who I m.
Now I've a completely different view on everything... From seeing and interacting with another human being to ideas about the cosmos... All from the gita and personal deliberation by meditation.
Identification of one's true self that is invisible and cannot be perceived by the 5 senses brings more satisfaction than the idea that one needs saving.

 

[savagewind]

This is a fundamental belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. God called modern day prophets, starting with Joseph Smith, to re-establish or restore Christianity and the Church to their New Testament form, to correct false doctrines that developed over the centuries, and to restore the ordinances or sacraments established by Christ, with the right authority to perform those ordinances. There are Biblical passages in the Old and New Testaments which we believe predict these events. This gospel restoration occurred in preparation for the return of Christ.

The Bible Students who became the Jehovah's Witnesses did the same thing, but they do not believe the same as the LDS. Before that, the Catholic Church claimed it was the only way. So? Which one is it?

 

[Pastek]

The problem is, due to Islam spending the last 1500 years telling them the Bible is corrupt, many have become rigid to seeing the deception within their own book.

The worst corruption i see is the wrong interpretations of texts.

 

[savagewind]

It would basically be saying anyone who is stupid, its fine to get rid of... Which in someways is the reason the Biblical snare was established; yet is that fair?

I think it is interesting that this week I began to think for the first time that stupid is definitely worse than evil.

Evil does what evil does on purpose, but the truth is that God is evil's head just as God is everyone's head. Stupid people do not recognize God as their head.

 

[savagewind]

The worst corruption i see is the wrong interpretations of texts.

I agree with this 100% which makes what he said about them being driven by fear true imo

 

[wizanda]

I think everything you say in post one is true but I think it might be removed because you called them stupid.

Someone else said leave the stupid people to fall in a pit, i was saying that isn't fair.... Even if that is what is presented in the Bible; parable of the foolish virgins, etc....We should try to help our dumb, and sick.

So? Which one is it?

They're all wrong you just listed, because of following these 3 frogs:

• Paul contradicts Christ on well over 36 points, thus people quoting his ideology are flawed from the offset.
• The gospel of John is made up, and isn't the words or teachings of Yeshua; so again if they're quoting from it, they need their eyes testing, plus some lessons in spot the differences.
  
• Simon was called the stone (petros) by Yeshua as prophecy, he would be the person who would mislead everyone....So churches built upon his teachings, are generally 'following the ways of man, before the ways of God'.

Like saying it will be a total reformation of the church, to not accept human sacrifice as a blood atonement.

The worst corruption i see is the wrong interpretations of texts.

The worst is the inclusion of texts listed above^, that turn light into dark, and darkness into light.

I think it is interesting that this week I began to think for the first time that stupid is definitely worse than evil.

People can be ignorant, and not be bad people, they're just naive and easily led....

If we classed everyone stupid, worse than evil, we'd be in a mess, because a lot of the world is stupid/ignorant in some way.

 

[savagewind]

If we classed everyone stupid, worse than evil, we'd be in a mess, because a lot of the world is stupid/ignorant in some way.

We are in a mess.

 

[savagewind]

People can be ignorant, and not be bad people, they're just naive and easily led....

define idol: an image or representation of a god used as an object of worship.

Their way is their god. They are idolaters. Is idolatry now not bad?

 

[wizanda]

They are idolaters. Is idolatry now not bad?

Idolatry isn't the worse crime they're guilty of.... Plus when examining many other religious customs, it is common among most religions in someway shape or form.

Plus they've been led to be idolators; Paul said jesus is the image of god, John tells people to worship him, Simon called him the savior....

Like saying they've just chosen to follow the wrong part of the text (which personally find overly complicated, for most people to comprehend how it is wrong)....

If that wasn't the case, everyone should've noticed already that the gospel of John is made up; yet almost no one has in a few thousand years.

 

[savagewind]

Idolatry isn't the worse crime they're guilty of.... Plus when examining many other religious customs, it is common among most religions in someway shape or form.

Plus they've been led to be idolators; Paul said jesus is the image of god, John tells people to worship him, Simon called him the savior....

Like saying they've just chosen to follow the wrong part of the text (which personally find overly complicated, for most people to comprehend how it is wrong)....

If that wasn't the case, everyone should've noticed already that the gospel of John is made up; yet almost no one has in a few thousand years.

What about Revelation?

 

[savagewind]

Idolatry isn't the worse crime they're guilty of...

It seems to me that according to Moses it is.

 

[savagewind]

Would You Leave Christians to Go to Hell?

According to most Christian people Jesus DID leave people to go to hell.

 

[wizanda]

It seems to me that according to Moses it is.

Worshiping a human sacrifice, and drinking his blood, surpasses idolatry on its own... Shocked the Jews don't do more to fix it, when they should know that.

What about Revelation?

If you mean the book of Revelations, that is overly confusing.

According to most Christian people Jesus DID leave people to go to hell.

Yeah the irony of them going around accusing everyone of going to Hell, when they're on the express highway, is shocking.

 

[savagewind]

Yeah the irony of them going around accusing everyone of going to Hell, when they're on the express highway, is shocking.

That is real, but it is not what I meant. They say that Jesus did leave. Now we are ALL going to hell, apparently.

According to your own perfectly righteous interpretation of Jesus' words, did he leave?

 

[wizanda]

Now we are ALL going to hell, apparently.

Yeshua taught it is by good works, and repentance we receive salvation...

Based on the falsified texts, they've come to the idea, we need to believe in the name of jesus, and if we don't we're condemned to Hell, which isn't true.

According to your own perfectly righteous interpretation of Jesus' words, did he leave?

I'm not perfectly righteous; yet Yeshua stated he will be with us until the end of this age.

 

[Deathbydefault]

Into their minds? I think he'd have to be quicker than that.

Um, why?

Under every circumstance?

The ones I would deem most important or worth knowing.

what would he do with all the brain noise, do you think? Do you understand the question?

I used an example suited to a super being.
It could literally just engrave the message word for word into our minds, or leave the message recorded.
Or both. Or something else.

I think it was people who ****ed up.

I don't.

 

[savagewind]

Yeshua taught it is by good works, and repentance we receive salvation...

There are two different "we"s . There is the individual who is not judged compared to what others do and there is the world which is.

IBased on the falsified texts, they've come to the idea, we need to believe in the name of jesus, and if we don't we're condemned to Hell, which isn't true.

I agree with you.

II'm not perfectly righteous;

I did not say you are perfectly righteous. I suggested that you might think your interpretation of Jesus might seem perfect to you.

yet Yeshua stated he will be with us until the end of this age.

Yes. I tell them this, but it seems they must hear it from Jesus. I do not know how they will know it is really Jesus.