Wrong to Cheat on Partner?

[Badran]

That's like asking if it would be a good idea to shoot yourself in the face if there is no damage done.

Perhaps i'm not trying hard enough to understand your meaning here, but are you saying this because in your opinion it would be impossible for such criteria to be met? As in its impossible for this to be done without somebody getting hurt?

Besides. Even if my wife never knew about it, I would, and I, having a conscience, would suffer, and ultimately lose some respect for myself, which would cause damage in my motivation and interactions for life.

Though i'm not married or committed to anyone, i think the same would happen to me. I'd always feel guilty of something.

 

[Twig pentagram]

If you cheat on your spouse or partner, they never find out, and you don't contract any diseases, etc, is it wrong? Why?

Is there any case that it isn't wrong? Is there any case that it can be beneficial?

It's wrong because the cheater broke thier promise, but if you never get caught and you never fess up it's not really going to matter.

 

[freethinker44]

If you cheat on your spouse or partner, they never find out, and you don't contract any diseases, etc, is it wrong? Why?

Is there any case that it isn't wrong? Is there any case that it can be beneficial?

I would say it is still wrong because it doesn't matter how it turned out after the deed was done just because it ended up hurting no one. You didn't know there would be no consequences going in so it should be judged on that.

To use an analogy, if someone tried to shoot you but missed, wouldn't that still be wrong even though no one got hurt?

 

[.lava]

If you cheat on your spouse or partner, they never find out, and you don't contract any diseases, etc, is it wrong? Why?

Is there any case that it isn't wrong? Is there any case that it can be beneficial?

if i just put my belief aside, i'd say it depends on promises couples make each other. if you're expected to be loyal and you cheat it is always wrong

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[Badran]

To use an analogy, if someone tried to shoot you but missed, wouldn't that still be wrong even though no one got hurt?

What about if you shot it while knowing for certain no one will get hurt?

 

[Badran]

if i just put my belief aside, i'd say it depends on promises couples make each other. if you're expected to be loyal and you cheat it is always wrong

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Could you explain the last part a bit more? Why is it always wrong?

I do agree like i clarified with this opinion, i'm only looking for an explanation because without one my opinion has no value. So i'm hoping may be someone else has a clearer idea that is not based on emotion.

 

[.lava]

Could you explain the last part a bit more? Why is it always wrong?

I do agree like i clarified with this opinion, i'm only looking for an explanation because without one my opinion has no value. So i'm hoping may be someone else has a clearer idea that is not based on emotion.

if two people make a commitment to each other and promise each other not to have any kind of romantic relationship with another person, then i find it always wrong for people to cheat. if people are not willing to keep promises, they should not make any in the first place. i don't know maybe it is not cheating if both agrees with it but i dislike that kind of stuff

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[Badran]

if two people make a commitment to each other and promise each other not to have any kind of romantic relationship with another person, then i find it always wrong for people to cheat. if people are not willing to keep promises, they should not make any in the first place. i don't know maybe it is not cheating if both agrees with it but i dislike that kind of stuff

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Thanks for the explanation.

Wouldn't you consider any scenario were breaking a promise might be justified?

For example, if you shared a promise with someone about something based on certain grounds to prevent a bad thing from happening, and those grounds changed, resulting in that the bad thing will not happen if you break the promise, would it still be wrong?

This is of course assuming that the promise is made to preserve both sides feelings, but if i'm missing the point please correct me.

 

[.lava]

Thanks for the explanation.

Wouldn't you consider any scenario were breaking a promise might be justified?

For example, if you shared a promise with someone about something based on certain grounds to prevent a bad thing from happening, and those grounds changed, resulting in that the bad thing will not happen if you break the promise, would it still be wrong?

This is of course assuming that the promise is made to preserve both sides feelings, but if i'm missing the point please correct me.

it would be easier for me to understand if you'd give an example for relationship of couples. IMO promises are given to be kept, not to be broken. but sure, there are very strange and unexpected conditions in life but still no need to cheat, people could still be honest and break up before they fool one another

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[Badran]

it would be easier for me to understand if you'd give an example for relationship of couples. IMO promises are given to be kept, not to be broken. but sure, there are very strange and unexpected conditions in life but still no need to cheat, people could still be honest and break up before they fool one another

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Sorry here is an example. A woman still loves her husband and everything, but is struggling with sexual urges of whatever kind that her husband can't meet or satisfy. So, she still doesn't cheat because it will hurt his feelings if he knows. Then however a situation happened where if she cheated there will be no chance of him finding out or for other damage to occur in general.

Now what i'm struggling with for some reason here is why is it that this would be wrong. Why is cheating even if no damage occurs is wrong. Why is not doing as you said you will wrong, even though nothing bad for anyone turns out of it?

The only thing i could think of is that the partner has a right to know, or has a right that you keep no secrets from him. Problem with this explanation though is that i'll have to explain why is this the case too. Why does he have to know even if it doesn't affect anything if he didn't.

 

[McBell]

If you cheat on your spouse or partner, they never find out, and you don't contract any diseases, etc, is it wrong? Why?

Is there any case that it isn't wrong? Is there any case that it can be beneficial?

Interesting.
Does the same theory apply to robbing a bank?

I mean, if you stole from the bank, but no one knows about it, is it wrong?

 

[.lava]

Sorry here is an example. A woman still loves her husband and everything, but is struggling with sexual urges of whatever kind that her husband can't meet or satisfy. So, she still doesn't cheat because it will hurt his feelings if he knows. Then however a situation happened where if she cheated there will be no chance of him finding out or for other damage to occur in general.

Now what i'm struggling with for some reason here is why is it that this would be wrong. Why is cheating even if no damage occurs is wrong. Why is not doing as you said you will wrong, even though nothing bad for anyone turns out of it?

The only thing i could think of is that the partner has a right to know, or has a right that you keep no secrets from him. Problem with this explanation though is that i'll have to explain why is this the case too. Why does he have to know even if it doesn't affect anything if he didn't.

if you're married then it means you did chose someone among all the people you know to be with and to share your life with. if it is not working you get divorce. some people would not care to share their partners, some people do. in the begining people need to make sure what kind of relationship they want. i would not want to share my husband with another woman. reasons don't matter. no doubt in case i get married my husband would know this fact. if he cheats then of course he would have to hide it because he'd know i would not agree with it. he would probably feel guilty. that's a damage to both of us. if you're asking for something solid like rock, i don't think there is any. it is an emotional matter. you don't care for emotions of your partner? well, that is seriously damaging IMO

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[Badran]

if you're married then it means you did chose someone among all the people you know to be with and to share your life with. if it is not working you get divorce. some people would not care to share their partners, some people do. in the begining people need to make sure what kind of relationship they want. i would not want to share my husband with another woman. reasons don't matter. no doubt in case i get married my husband would know this fact. if he cheats then of course he would have to hide it because he'd know i would not agree with it. he would probably feel guilty. that's a damage to both of us. if you're asking for something solid like rock, i don't think there is any. it is an emotional matter. you don't care for emotions of your partner? well, that is seriously damaging IMO

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Thanks.

 

[.lava]

Thanks.

well, you're welcome. i was not that helpful, i know

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[Badran]

well, you're welcome. i was not that helpful, i know

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You were very helpful. Even if we assume you didn't have an answer but tried is helpful. As i get to hear more about your perspective.

 

[zenzero]

Friend KT,

Wrong to Cheat on Partner?

Who am *I* to judge your actions!
If one can live with it, its his *karma* where does another come here??
Plain and simple, Sow as you reap, action/reaction, karma etc.are things that comes through experiences, understanding and realization of the individual concerned.

Love & rgds

 

[Kathryn]

If you cheat on your spouse or partner, they never find out, and you don't contract any diseases, etc, is it wrong? Why?

Is there any case that it isn't wrong? Is there any case that it can be beneficial?

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, did it make any noise?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, did it make any noise?

Ah, so it's more of a philsophical question than a moral one.

 

[*Anne*]

If you cheat on your spouse or partner, they never find out, and you don't contract any diseases, etc, is it wrong? Why?

I promised him I would never cheat, so even if one could assure me that he would never find out, cheating would mean I broke my promise. From that moment on, I would not be the woman I claimed to be. Every day after that, I would be nothing but a lie.

 

[Kathryn]

Ah, so it's more of a philsophical question than a moral one.

One doesn't necessarily cancel out the other. Contrary to some people's beliefs, philosophical and moral dilemmas often overlap. Some would even say that they can't operate independently.

But that's a topic for another thread.

I think most rational people realize that a tree falling makes a sound whether we hear it or not.

Likewise, whether your partner ever knows or not, you've broken your agreement and therefore altered the relationship in a significant way, which isn't fair to the party who doesn't realize that this has occurred. So that makes it wrong generally speaking. I'm sure of course that you could come up with some tortured scenarios in which it might be excused, but bad law is built on exceptions to the general rule.

Or are you one of those people who think that if you eat something standing up at the fridge rather than sitting down at the table, you don't have to count the calories?