Subduction Zone
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It was not a delay. I need a clear acknowledgement.
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Xi Humiliates U.S. and Kerry While Kerry Grovels over "Climate Change"
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Subduction Zone
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No, you have not agreed to what you need to agree to. You are in effect running away.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
OK. Whatever you say.
Don't proceed then.
I doubt you have that absolutely devastating counter argument anyways, considering you simply won't post it in spite of your claim to the contrary.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, you are missing the point. You used an improper debating technique. If you do not own up to that there is no point in going on. You have failed at being an honest interlocutor. To be that one has to follow reasonable rules of debate. Now technically one could say the same of my refutation, but one improper debating technique justifies one in return.
And now that this has been painfully explained to you your post is in effect refuted. Pointing out how you did not follow the rules of proper debate removes that as any sort of "evidence". Though I am free to point to it as one of your endless fails.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Good job then. Well done at having absolutely no counterpart nor argument whatsoever here.
I thought as much.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No. You screwed up. You were given quite a few chances to correct your post. I offered a compromise and you could not agree to that either. You failed at being an honest interlocutor. One needs to follow the rules of polite debate if they expect anyone to respond to them with posts of substance.
You can do better. I hope. Or do you just know that you are wrong? If so why continue in such a fashion? Your arguments have been mirroring the tactics of creationists and other science deniers.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Just a bunch of excuses after excuses.
Can't even begin to make a good counterpoint.
exchemist
Veteran Member
What would be the alternative approach, under different leadership, then?
exchemist
Veteran Member
Don't be silly. The fossil fuel companies acknowledge climate change is real.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
However the sense of self preservation hasn't kicked in over it, which makes the question as to just how dire the situation actually and really is.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Now that even the oil companies acknowledge it, your insinuation that climate change is being talked up by (un-named) "benefactors" doesn't sand up. Also, if even they acknowledge it, it must be pretty serious and urgent, not just some theoretical risk. In fact it is all around us now, with record temperatures, fires, and floods all over the world.
The actions being taken by governments, including yours, show that self-preservation is kicking in now, in spite of complacent, blinkered people like you.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It that was actually the case of self preservation , I have yet to see these supposed saviors of the world actually lead by example themselves.
In other words, practice what one preaches.
And one wonders why most no one listens to these people.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Who exactly do you mean by "supposed saviours of the world"?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Our beloved eco warriors of the environment pressing the urgency of climate change and promoting a greener tomorrow.
exchemist
Veteran Member
You can waste your time sticking pins into effigies of the hate objects of your imagination if you like, but it won't change the science or the impetus for change.
It is action by governments and business that will deal with this issue. And governments and business are taking action, on a huge scale. This is not going to stop.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Good. I want them to start driving electric cars, flying electric planes, sail in electric ships, cook on electric stoves, and live in electric homes to show exactly how serious they personally are on the urgency of the situation.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Your ignorance of the subject is showing, once again. I really suggest you do some homework, or at least think, before you say these silly things.
- Electric cars are already here and becoming popular, in spite of your hatred for them.
- Renewable electricity generation is already here, and growing fast.
- Ships are coming into service fuelled by gas, which has only 60% of the carbon emissions of RFO ( there was a big one next to my ferry to France this summer), and there is a lot of work from ship engine builders on ammonia as a future fuel
- Electric cookers have been a thing for almost a century and ceramic hobs in particular are popular, being responsive to the cook and much easier to clean than a gas hob.
- You may not have noticed it but your home is already electric, as is everyone's, apart perhaps from heating and cooking.
The only thing on your list that has yet to be tackled seriously - and for obvious reasons, if one knows anything about science or engineering - is flying. Before you start crowing triumphantly about that, flying is responsible for ~2% of carbon emissions.
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Yerda
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This has exactly the same credibility as the Creation Institute's lectures on the failure of evolutionary biology.Home run? Don't make me laugh.
But it did indeed hit 50 plus years of failed climate change predictions as doomsday addiction takes center plate for yet another pitch to throw for yet another cross the fingers inning.
Doomsday Addiction: Celebrating 50 years of Failed Climate Predictions
Politicians, scientists, and celebs assure us the apocalypse is tomorrow, and if not, the day after will do. Buckle up for a look at 50 years of cataclysmic predictions.www.agweb.com
Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions - Competitive Enterprise Institute
Modern doomsayers have been predicting climate and environmental disaster since the 1960s. They continue to do so today. None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. What follows is a collection of notably wild predictions from notable people in government and...cei.org
exchemist
Veteran Member
This is bloody ridiculous. The signs of climate change are all around us now, as predicted, and are becoming more and more stark with every passing year. Over 40C in S Europe now, for the last fortnight.Home run? Don't make me laugh.
But it did indeed hit 50 plus years of failed climate change predictions as doomsday addiction takes center plate for yet another pitch to throw for yet another cross the fingers inning.
Doomsday Addiction: Celebrating 50 years of Failed Climate Predictions
Politicians, scientists, and celebs assure us the apocalypse is tomorrow, and if not, the day after will do. Buckle up for a look at 50 years of cataclysmic predictions.
Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions - Competitive Enterprise Institute
Modern doomsayers have been predicting climate and environmental disaster since the 1960s. They continue to do so today. None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. What follows is a collection of notably wild predictions from notable people in government and...
Do you really think governments, motor manufacturers and fossil fuel companies have all fallen for some sort of leftie conspiracy, on the basis of no real evidence?