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No. Not mentioned like that in any story. I suppose he had an uncut one.
I've read the material. So I am confident that the people of israel written about in that chapter could not be the children of the commandments.
Careful, you are not immune to laws.
That is what makes the gel fall like an umbrella and burn what it rains upon. In 2009, the raining fire was upon civilians
Does that make it OK?
I've read the material. So I am confident that the people of israel written about in that chapter could not be the children of the commandments.
Careful, you are not immune to laws.
That is what makes the gel fall like an umbrella and burn what it rains upon. In 2009, the raining fire was upon civilians
Does that make it OK?
OK a priest blessing.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam.......... the 3 religions of abraham................. The 3 horns.
You've been trained how to believe
I am aware that you have been trained to paint a story
No worries, I enjoyed learning other perspectives to try and comprehend why there is so much divide in the levant and the 3 religions that have fighting over jerusalem for so long. You should try it.
Yes, I worship one God. So does maybe half the world. What is your point?
I wasn't saying anything at all about being indigenous. Sure, I could make that argument, but I wasn't. Being a tribe has nothing to do with being indigenous to an area. For example, the Dineh (Navajo) are the largest Native American tribe in the US. But they are not indigenous to the Southwest. They migrated down from Canada and didn't arrive in teh Southwest until roughly 800-1000 years ago. But they are still a tribe.
Are you under the misconception that I'm Israeli? I'm not. I was born here in California.
If you want a conversation with me, your responses have to at least make sense. This whole post seems sullen and passive aggressive. I have done nothing to deserve that sort of response from you. I have simply, factually, corrected a misunderstanding you have that the word Jew refers to the practitioners of a religion -- that's not what Jew means.
Now what am I supposed to say to this? Do you always respond hatefully to people who try to correct you on the facts?
I believe you are referring to the man Judah, not Jew.
But there are a bunch of gods. Man made far more than one.
The term Jew . The term Judah...
That's the comparison that you are using. I get it.
Israel did not exist until 1947 even if a book and many interpretation use the term.... Even now, many different people call israel as their homeland, home, place of birth.
The majority of Jews on this earth are not of israel. That is something that i appreciate. Because Israel has done more damage to the term Jew than anything since ww2.
Perhaps because I like Jews for the practice and personal responsibility born from the religion.
I love Jews and judaism for the integrity of following the rules. You consider that hate or are you just feeling guilty for non compliance?
There is that spin cycle. I have observed that judah is the root of Jew per definitions, You told me that it has nothing to do with judaism, the religion but as a tribe. I am trying to have an open mind to your point of view.
Israel as a modern, political and sovereign country didn't exist until 1947/48 but Israel as a nation and people in a religious sense existed for a long time beforehand.
No abram is the beginning point, per genesis and the 3 evolved from there
Abram was a man that left his fathers home per genesis.
Of course, man made letters are what created torah... and bible and quran.... You do not own Abram.
Yep........ one story enabled 3 distinct religions to unfold. I have not combined them to egypt as of yet but the more that you guys use the tribal or lineage importance, the greater the form comes to fruition.
That is pure speculation. See ww2, germans were focally christian by majority. Same god, same abram, same genesis.
I knew the arrogance of that self imposed belief of controlling 'god' would show up.
Of course, as you were granted equality to be better than the rest of us.
Newton, honoring the knowledge of the previous generation.
Muhammad Ali....... a devout muslim
The abyss is the delusion of grandeur
Key word, 'story'............. Not fact nor actually occurring.
I seek the good not compliance.
@dybmh
People (all of us) have lineage to the beginning.... equally.
Trinkets representing a variety of gods.......... Yes.
I realize that the war is on everyone's mind, but this discussion is not about it. If you want to discuss the nation state of Israel, please begin a different thread on it.
While I appreciate the sentiment, it makes me uncomfortable. We Jews are no better than anyone else. There are Jews that are extremely good people. There are Jews that are morally mediocre. And there are Jews that are evil. Same as any other people. Please do not put us on a pedestal.
The fact that two words may be related does not mean they should be conflated, which is what you are doing. Let's back up and look at where the word Jew (Yehudi) has its origin.
I know, the news is getting weird.
I see your sentiment trying to be humble to an equal measure but the rules of personal responsibility (commandments) have conveyed for 1000's of years because of the culture and long held application. A few religions have evolved from them based standards of civil participation. Most every continent as all four corners of the earth have people within that can and do keep the rules as they are as sound NOW as they were way back when.
I am sorry but I actually care and it is not my business to change the religion. Rather i focus on the good as the measure, rather than the bad.
I have............. house of judah. But i will observe other opinions.
OK
There you go, backing into Israel
Is that another slavery model, captivity?
You just twisted up again.............. Israel...1947, what you were talking about is well before torah, moses or anything known as israel.
I don't recall saying (or learning) that any group is "better" than another.
But to learn, is to be objective....... The muslim point of view is that ishmael was the first born.
I prefer the wisdom over the talmud/midrash interpretations. Keeping the rules (personal responsibility) makes more sense as to why any god would prefer 1 group over another, just like the noah story represents.
The dross are israel per the chapter. I am observing the descriptions of why the judgment, oppressing widows and orphans (the fatherless).