Yet Another Study Finds a Reduction in Opioid Deaths with Legalization of Cannabis

[Twilight Hue]

Cannabidiol pills: https://healthyhempoil.com/shop/dixie-botanicals/cannabidiol-pills/

Big pharma will undoubtedly sell pills.

So you still know of no human studies having statistical power that have demonstrated cannabidiol is effective in achieving any of the results of the studies cited in the OP, or for treating anxiety disorders. Correct?

So what is your anxiety about cannabis? I bet you don't disapprove of alcohol being legal. Do you?

Oil. Not pills.

 

[Nous]

Oil. Not pills.

I don't suppose your "point" is worthy of speaking in a complete sentence, is it?

Perhaps you could even try answering the questions I asked (in complete sentences): So you still know of no human studies having statistical power that have demonstrated cannabidiol is effective in achieving any of the results of the studies cited in the OP, or for treating anxiety disorders. Correct?

So what is your anxiety about cannabis? I bet you don't disapprove of alcohol being legal. Do you?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I don't suppose your "point" is worthy of speaking in a complete sentence, is it?

Perhaps you could even try answering the questions I asked (in complete sentences): So you still know of no human studies having statistical power that have demonstrated cannabidiol is effective in achieving any of the results of the studies cited in the OP, or for treating anxiety disorders. Correct?

So what is your anxiety about cannabis? I bet you don't disapprove of alcohol being legal. Do you?

No point for you anyways ;0) I never even mentioned pills. You seem pretty detached from how many points people make so any points I try to make won't register with you. I find cannabis very useful actually. Just not keen on its recreational use coupled with irresponsible people.

I'm talking, been talking, through the cotton in your ears, specifically about cannabis oil that you cannot get a high from that has applicable medical uses beneficial enough that there's been a legislative push for its use in the medical community. I find it intriguing.

Weeding out the different effects of cannabis oil and marijuana

Most people however argue for the use of cannabis for no other reason than to just get a high. That's what it's all about to a number of people who defend tooth-and-nail on cannibis, it's all about getting high. Just getting high.... High...... .chill..... groovvyy man.

 

[Wirey]

Recreational Cannabis Legalization and Opioid-Related Deaths in Colorado, 2000–2015

As the abstract explains, researchers compared changes in levels and slope of monthly opioid deaths before and after Colorado began selling recreational cannabis. They found that implementation of the law was associated with a reduction of 0.7 opioid deaths per month. The abstract notes that this represents a reversal of the upward trend in opioid deaths in Colorado that was occurring prior to the recreational cannabis law.

This is not the first study to find a decrease in opioid deaths with the legalization of marijuana, but it is the first study showing such a decrease associated with recreational legalization. A study published in 2014, Medical Cannabis Laws and Opioid Analgesic Overdose Mortality in the United States, 1999-2010 (which I cited and linked to on a thread a couple of years ago), conducted a time-series analysis of medical cannabis laws and state-level death certificate data from 1999 to 2010 in all 50 states (my underlining):

MAIN OUTCOMES AND MEASURES Age-adjusted opioid analgesic overdose death rate per 100,000 population in each state. Regression models were developed including state and year fixed effects, the presence of 3 different policies regarding opioid analgesics, and the state-specific unemployment rate.

RESULTS Three states (California, Oregon, and Washington) had medical cannabis laws effective prior to 1999. Ten states (Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Rhode Island, and Vermont) enacted medical cannabis laws between 1999 and 2010. States with medical cannabis laws had a 24.8% lower mean annual opioid overdose mortality rate (95% CI, −37.5% to −9.5%; P = .003) compared with states without medical cannabis laws. Examination of the association between medical cannabis laws and opioid analgesic overdose mortality in each year after implementation of the law showed that such laws were associated with a lower rate of overdose mortality that generally strengthened over time: year 1 (−19.9%; 95% CI, −30.6% to −7.7%; P = .002), year 2 (−25.2%; 95% CI, −40.6% to −5.9%; P = .01), year 3 (−23.6%; 95% CI, −41.1% to −1.0%; P = .04), year 4 (−20.2%; 95% CI, −33.6% to −4.0%; P = .02), year 5 (−33.7%; 95% CI, −50.9% to −10.4%; P = .008), and year 6 (−33.3%; 95% CI, −44.7% to −19.6%; P < .001). In secondary analyses, the findings remained similar.

CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE Medical cannabis laws are associated with significantly lower state-level opioid overdose mortality rates. Further investigation is required to determine how medical cannabis laws may interact with policies aimed at preventing opioid analgesic overdose.​

In fact, one such study that further investigated the issue was published last year, Medical Cannabis Use Is Associated With Decreased Opiate Medication Use in a Retrospective Cross-Sectional Survey of Patients With Chronic Pain, which showed that patients with chronic pain who reported marijuana use were 64% less likely to use opiates. Marijuana use was associated with better quality of life in patients with chronic pain, and with fewer medications used and fewer adverse effects of medications used. (The fewer adverse effects of medications are quite plausibly due to use of fewer medications.)

Various studies have found other noteworthy health benefits related to cannabis use. A 2011 study, Obesity and cannabis use: results from 2 representative national surveys, discovered that the 2 surveys showed lower rates of obesity among those using cannabis at least 3 days per week (14.3% and 17.2%) compared to participants reporting no use in the past 12 months (22.0% and 25.3%). The authors note: “These differences were not accounted for by tobacco smoking status. Additionally, after adjustment for sex and age, the use of cannabis was associated with body mass index differences in both samples. The authors conclude that the prevalence of obesity is lower in cannabis users than in nonusers.” Controlling for sociodemographic factors, laboratory values and comorbidity, the lower odds of diabetes among marijuana users remained significant.

A study published in in 2013, The Impact of Marijuana Use on Glucose, Insulin, and Insulin Resistance among US Adults, evinced that current marijuana use was associated with 16% lower fasting insulin levels and 17% lower insulin-resistance. Further, current marijuana users had significantly smaller waist circumferences.

Seemingly related, a 2012 cross-sectional study, Decreased prevalence of diabetes in marijuana users: cross-sectional data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) III, ascertained that marijuana users had lower age-adjusted rates of diabetes mellitus, and that the “prevalence of elevated C reactive protein (>0.5 mg/dl) was significantly higher (p<0.0001) among nonmarijuana users (18.9%) than among past (12.7%) or current light (15.8%) or heavy (9.2%) users.” C reactive protein is produced by the liver and rises with increasing levels of inflammation. One study concluded that measuring this protein is a better indicator of cardiovascular disease than the LDL test. The C reactive protein test is also used to determine levels of inflammation involved in autoimmune conditions. See: What Is C-Reactive Protein Test?

Yet our current AG and his DEA maintain that marijuana has no medical value whatsoever and should remain a Schedule I drug. Thanks to all the American idiots who didn't bother to vote in 2016, or who pulled the lever for Trump in an effort to destroy the establishment.

So, what are your thoughts? When will the US achieve rational marijuana laws? That is, when will cannabis be legal? While Trump is in office?

Perhaps this is true, but there are also several studies that prove conclusively that the legalization of cannabis results in a uniform shortage of Oreos and Doritos at convenience stores between 1:00 and 3:00 AM.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Big pharma will undoubtedly sell pills.

It wouldn't surprise me if "Big pharma" leads a crusade against growing and smoking pot just so they can funnel that revenue into their own pockets. Of course it won't be as much, but those greedy vampires every cent isn't enough.

 

[Nous]

No point for you anyways ;0) I never even mentioned pills.

What are you claiming is the difference between cannabidiol oil and cannabidiol pills?

So you still are unable point to even one human study having statistical power that has demonstrated cannabidiol is effective in achieving any of the results of the studies cited in the OP, or for treating anxiety disorders. Correct?

Most people however argue for the use of cannabis for no other reason than to just get a high.

The OP doesn't. We are at 125 posts and you haven't spoken to any issue raised in the OP yet. I guess it would be too anxiety-inducing for you to address the findings of the studies cited in the OP.

And you still have explained what your anxiety is about regarding legalization of recreational cannabis. You don't have any problem with alcohol being legal, do yo?

 

[Nous]

It wouldn't surprise me if "Big pharma" leads a crusade against growing and smoking pot just so they can funnel that revenue into their own pockets.

There is no "if" about it. Big pharma are the primary corporate opposition to the referenda and laws legalizing cannabis either medicinally or recreationally. You need to ketchup.

 

[Nous]

Perhaps this is true, but there are also several studies that prove conclusively that the legalization of cannabis results in a uniform shortage of Oreos and Doritos at convenience stores between 1:00 and 3:00 AM.

I'm sure that comment is just hilarious to a room full of drunks.

How do you account for the findings of the studies cited in the OP, such as the lower obesity rates among people who regularly use marijuana compared to those who don't? The lower fasting levels of insulin and insulin resistance among regular marijuana user? The lower rates of diabetes and C-reactive protein?

 

[Wirey]

I'm sure that comment is just hilarious to a room full of drunks.

How do you account for the findings of the studies cited in the OP, such as the lower obesity rates among people who regularly use marijuana compared to those who don't? The lower fasting levels of insulin and insulin resistance among regular marijuana user? The lower rates of diabetes and C-reactive protein?

It was a joke, Bonehead. Don't take yourself so seriously. You're only internet smart.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There is no "if" about it. Big pharma are the primary corporate opposition to the referenda and laws legalizing cannabis either medicinally or recreationally. You need to ketchup.

I know they are fighting that loosing war (Indiana, with some of the harshest pot laws in the Union, even just legalizing for epilepsy is a pretty big sign that war is already lost, it just has to be finished). The question is what comes next? Smear campaigns against dispensary-grown pot? Concern of mixing all those cannabonoids when they think you only need this one or that one? We've already seen some try to say smoking a joint is like smoking several cigarettes (something science does not support). A frying egg being your brain on drugs is a "legacy joke" like Refer Madness. However, we are at a time when we need to be anticipating new tactics and new strategies from big pharma, concerned parents, Conservatives, and the like. What comes next? Especially if the government doesn't back off from having cannabis as a schedule-1 drug.

 

[Nous]

It was a joke, Bonehead.

Yes, Lintbrain, that's what I said. There is undoubtedly some room full of drunks who have laughed at.

You're only internet smart.

That's better than what anyone would say about you.

 

[Nous]

I know they are fighting that loosing war (Indiana, with some of the harshest pot laws in the Union, even just legalizing for epilepsy is a pretty big sign that war is already lost, it just has to be finished). The question is what comes next? Smear campaigns against dispensary-grown pot? Concern of mixing all those cannabonoids when they think you only need this one or that one? We've already seen some try to say smoking a joint is like smoking several cigarettes (something science does not support). A frying egg being your brain on drugs is a "legacy joke" like Refer Madness. However, we are at a time when we need to be anticipating new tactics and new strategies from big pharma, concerned parents, Conservatives, and the like. What comes next? Especially if the government doesn't back off from having cannabis as a schedule-1 drug.

Actually, the effect of Big Pharma's money in the various referenda really just goes to show how money doesn't buy votes. Most of the referenda have succeeded, and in those states where they haven't, the popular support was bare.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

There is no "if" about it. Big pharma are the primary corporate opposition to the referenda and laws legalizing cannabis either medicinally or recreationally. You need to ketchup.

Beside the pharmaceutical industry, here are a few more areas with a vested interest in keeping pot illegal:

beer and liquor
cotton, wool, textiles (hemp as a fabric)
lumber (hemp is also a paper source)
organized crime
police
attorneys
prisons
probation departments
rehab units
drug test manufacturers

 

[columbus]

police
attorneys
prisons

I believe that these are far more important than people generally give credit for, especially with for profits prison system.
And they've all got clout with politicians.
Tom

 

[Nous]

Beside the pharmaceutical industry, here are a few more areas with a vested interest in keeping pot illegal:

beer and liquor
cotton, wool, textiles (hemp as a fabric)
lumber (hemp is also a paper source)
organized crime
police
attorneys
prisons
probation departments
rehab units
drug test manufacturers

I have definitely read of the liquor industry and others you've named here as contributors opposing these referenda. I am not aware that attorneys have done so en masse. The ACLU definitely doesn't work against legalization of cannabis.

 

[Nous]

I believe that these are far more important than people generally give credit for, especially with for profits prison system.
And they've all got clout with politicians.

See my above.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I have definitely read of the liquor industry and others you've named here as contributors opposing these referenda. I am not aware that attorneys have done so en masse. The ACLU definitely doesn't work against legalization of cannabis.

I'm not aware of attorneys acting to keep marijuana illegal, just that the profession profits from prosecuting and defending those accused of drug crimes, and that gives them an interest in the matter.

Maybe a better choice of words would have been to state that attornies benefit from pot being illegal rather than implying that they might work to keep it illegal.

 

[Nous]

I'm not aware of attorneys acting to keep marijuana illegal, just that the profession profits from prosecuting and defending those accused of drug crimes, and that gives them an interest in the matter.

I assure you that attorneys generally do not make any noteworthy profits from arrests for possession of marijuana such as these legalization efforts prevent. The vast majority of simple possession cases are plea bargained, and most cases are handled by public defenders.

Massive importation operations are another matter--but the legalization laws do not affect such cases.

 

[Gina]

Cannabis is widely being used by patients who are suffering from anxiety, insomnia, chronic pain, arthritis, and even cancer. A study found that it effects positively on as animals too! But some of the government has banned it. In recent years, with more 600,000 reported from 2000 to 2016.1 Prescription opioids have been identified as a key factor driving this surge. I have read this info from an article here it is https://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/a...arijuana-prescription-opioids/article/747575/
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[youknowme]

Seems more of a band-aid than a fix to me.